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Making the Leap

2007-04-26 12:24

by Cliff Corcoran

Last July, Steven Goldman and I headed down to Trenton to see 20-year-old Phil Hughes start against the Akron Aeros. The above and below are two of a series of photos I snapped during that game. Hughes dominated the Aeros that night, striking out eight in four innings, but a long rain delay ended his evening there. With Hughes due to make his major league debut tonight after just three triple-A starts, I thought these photos would explain what my words might fail to sufficiently communicate. That is, quite simply, that regardless of a players skill level, it's still a long way from double-A to the major leagues.

I'll be at the game tonight, which will pit Hughes against Josh Towers (whom I erroneously discussed in yesterday's game preview). Hopefully I'll have some more photos for you all in the morning.

As for Hughes, he made just three starts in Scranton. The first was solid (5 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 6 K), the second was poor (5 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 1 K), and the third was dominating (6 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 10 K). Collectively, he's gotten 4.5 times as many groundouts as fly outs and has dominated lefties (8 2/3 IP, 3 H, 1 BB, 14 K, 5.5 GO/FO). That last start is a good one to build off for his big league debut, but we should still expect to see some of the nervousness he displayed in spring training, particularly during the first inning. That said, Chase Wright, who had one fewer start in double-A before making his major league debut than Hughes has in triple-A coming into tonight, was able to settle down and beat the Indians. There's no reason why Hughes, a vastly superior pitcher, can't do the same to a Blue Jays lineup that has replaced Troy Glaus and Gregg Zaun with Jason Smith and Jason Phillips (and has always had Royce Clayton).

Both Hughes and Scranton hitting coach Butch Wynegar (yes, Butch Wynegar) have been quoted as saying they don't expect Hughes to return to Scranton. Brian Cashman, who has a little more say over these things, has said tonight's start is a one-off appearance to stem the tide until Mike Mussina returns from the disabled list on Thursday. The Yankees have wisely said they plan to limit Hughes, who threw a career-high 146 innings between Tampa and Trenton last year, to 180 innings this year. I just can't imagine how they'd accomplish that without returning him to triple-A, where his starts can be artificially limited to five or six innings. That said, I expect him to return to the majors to stay by June at the latest. So, tonight may not mark the arrival of Phil Hughes, just a sneak preview, but it should be no less enjoyable as a result.

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2007-04-26 14:21:56

1. seamus

Is that Yankee Stadium?

That playground looks like fun.

2007-04-26 14:24:28

2. tommyl

According to Pete Abraham, Karstens will start on Saturday, Igawa is out of the rotation for now and in the bullpen. I wonder if they are hoping for big things for Hughes tonight and thinking of sending Igawa down.

2007-04-26 14:26:25

3. Bama Yankee

2 Yeah, and who is that huge dude hitting off the tee behind that playground? Maybe we need to give him a look at 1B...

2007-04-26 14:26:35

4. seamus

2 I think that is a good move. Igawa doesn't seem to have adjusted to our mound or ball or something. Working it out of the pen is a good way for him to do it.

2007-04-26 14:27:22

5. seamus

3 lol! Although, he actually has quite a resemblance to Giambi...

2007-04-26 14:28:25

6. tommyl

4 I think Igawa needs to be in AAA right now, irregardless. He's shown flashes of being a quality pitcher but his command, especially of his breaking pitches is really poor right now. That might be the balls, but the ML level is not where he should be working these things out. Send him down for 2 or 3 starts, let him work it out and then bring him back up. Its the smart move.

2007-04-26 14:29:16

7. seamus

6 I wouldn't argue with that.

2007-04-26 14:32:20

8. Jim Dean

Torre was just on MMD:

1. Karstens starts on Saturday. Igawa's going to work in the bullpen with Gator to get consistent. Tea thought Karstens should have had a minor league start and was thrown into the fire last weekend. This is sort of a second chance.

2. Mike wouldn't shut up about getting Bernie onto the bench. Torre could only suggest he'd need longer than 10 games to get in shape. Said he saw Bernie at O'Neill fundraiser two weeks ago and Bernie still needs to express an interest in coming back.

3. No mention of Mhfdjk - so at least one example that he isn't on the popular radar. He must still be a "great glove" for the team.

4. Farns gets the eighth tonight.

5. Hughes seems to be getting a second start next week, but Torre didn't say when. Still, it's up to his performance somewhat about against whom he starts.

6. Scary thought: Tea was thinking about Mad Dog's s screeching when he brought Mo into the eighth inning. His only regret is that he hadn't had Mo pitch earier in the week.

2007-04-26 14:40:42

9. Knuckles

Channeling Gene Hackman:

Gentlemen, you'll find at Yankee Stadium that the measurements from the pitching rubber to home plate is 60'6"...same as our little ballyard back home.

From home to first base is 90 feet, same as our field back home.

The left and right field foul lines are the same as the park back home.

The moonbounce and goofy inflatable player down the right field line, however, are 10 times the size of the ones in Trenton.

2007-04-26 14:49:30

10. Shaun P

I really hope Hughes is all he's cracked up to be. I don't think the Yanks have had, in my lifetime (b. 1977), a pitching prospect who really could be as great as Hughes could be. Maybe Brien Taylor, but we'll never know.

It would be so awesome to be able to watch and cheer for a legit, 'homegrown', young, bona fide #1 ace - and root for the Yanks at the same time.

2007-04-26 14:53:38

11. Bama Yankee

9 Very nice, Knuckels.

"moonbounce and goofy inflatable player down the right field line"
Sterling and Waldman?

2007-04-26 14:54:46

12. mehmattski

Is any one else nervous? Seventy minutes till gametime...

2007-04-26 14:56:08

13. seamus

10 MO?

2007-04-26 14:56:53

14. Mattpat11

2 So what was that about the idiots in the media who were the only ones that thought he was a bullpen pitcher?

2007-04-26 14:59:12

15. Mattpat11

13 Besides not being a starter, he also wasn't anyone to get excited over until he made it to the majors.

2007-04-26 14:59:47

16. Bama Yankee

12 Yeah, I'm as excited as Jim Dean at a BUC convention...

2007-04-26 15:00:47

17. seamus

15 I'm aware of that, but he is clearly a homegrown pitching prospect who turned into being as great as any pitching prospect could be.

2007-04-26 15:04:38

18. Mattpat11

17 But when he was an actual prospect, he was nothing special to follow and chart his progress. Hughes is the first one like that in years and years

2007-04-26 15:06:02

19. Jim Dean

12 Yeah, I'm as excited as Bama at a family reunion.

2007-04-26 15:09:29

20. Simone

Schilling's faux blood stain is one of the lead stories on SportsCenter. Even Tim Kurkjian is reporting on the controversy. Red Sox nation is melting down, folks. LOL!

2007-04-26 15:12:35

21. Mattpat11

I never understood why he was supposedly bleeding. I thought it was a ligament injury

2007-04-26 15:12:35

22. Bama Yankee

19 Good one, Jim. I can't top that. However, have you been to one of my family reunions... ;-)

2007-04-26 15:13:55

23. Jim Dean

Jeter out of the lineup, so...

Cairo at SS batting 9th and...

Mfhdjkvd batting 2nd.

Brilliant!

2007-04-26 15:15:00

24. Dimelo

No Jeter, according to Bill Parcells love child Mike Francesca. Sweeney Murti sent this info to him.

2007-04-26 15:15:42

25. Jeteupthemiddle

Anyone know what the roster move was to get Hughes both on the 40-man roster and then the 25-man roster?

I assume Sanchez to 60-day DL and Bean to Scranton?

2007-04-26 15:15:49

26. jkay

23 Torre only has to change 2 spots on the lineup card.

2007-04-26 15:17:53

27. LI yankee

23 Why not just move Cano to 2nd?

2007-04-26 15:17:57

28. Simone

21 I think the doctor did some revolutionary surgery on the ankle so maybe the stitches "allegedly" torn or something. Brian Kinney who is best ESPN baseball reporter could barely stop himself from chuckling when he talked about expert converging on Cooper Town. The ball incident and the bloody sox are examples of the ridiculousness that are the Red Sox and their fans.

2007-04-26 15:19:01

29. Jim Dean

22 Glad you liked it. But did you like it as much as your sister? :)

26 Brilliant!

2007-04-26 15:20:05

30. Jim Dean

27 Nah, too difficult.

2007-04-26 15:26:21

31. Mattpat11

23 We can see The Stink go 0-5 instead of 0-3

I'd rather Cairo hit second.

2007-04-26 15:34:39

32. Jim Rice

This Yankee offense would absolutely crush Josh Towers. But I think A.J. Burnett is starting tonight for the Jays.

This Yankee offense might crush him, too, but there's at least some chance that they might not. I don't think the same could be said of Towers.

2007-04-26 15:37:22

33. Bama Yankee

29 Dude, doesn't making sister jokes violate OYF's decorum rules...

Just kidding, I guess I did start it by taking a shot at you (sorry).

2007-04-26 15:37:25

34. Jim Rice

Is Mientkeiwicz batting second? If so, wow. Maybe scratch what I said about "this Yankee offense." A-Rod can't do it all by himself.

Well, maybe he can.

2007-04-26 15:38:24

35. seamus

i'm confused. Why would we bat Minky second? I know Torre has his issues, but this is startling. More importantly, I hope that Jeter is ok.

2007-04-26 15:41:53

36. JeremyM

Just read that Superman's impish little foe Mr. Mxyzptlk is batting 2nd. Come on.

2007-04-26 15:46:15

37. OldYanksFan

from ESPN: Think A-Rod won't opt out? Think again - By Jayson Stark
I guess we can look forward to this shit all year?

2007-04-26 15:48:27

38. JeremyM

37 Stark is a moron. If only politicians received such scrutiny and had their words dissected to this degree.

2007-04-26 15:50:54

39. nick

Minky is neither a good obp guy NOR a banjo-hitting but speedy middle infielder--there is no baseball wisdom, old-school or sabe, that would suggest hitting him 2nd--

2007-04-26 15:52:19

40. OldYanksFan

33 No No No. It's OK. Really. Just as long as it's not my sister.

2007-04-26 15:54:25

41. Hocakes

Ten minutes. I'm nervous, I can't imagine what Hughes is feeling. You'd like to be able to say, "no pressure Phil". You'd like to be able to think that they can take their time with him and let him develop, that it's no big deal if he gets blown out in the first inning tonight, but you can't because that's not the case. They've lost five in a row; they need a win, they need HIM to win. They need him to pitch well because he's the best arm in the organization and he can bring tangible results - which they desperately need right now - and they also need him pitch well because he's a symbol of the future of the franchise; it'll look bad if this super-hyped, Yankee prospect goes out there and craps all over the place. So if someone said, "no pressure, Phil" they'd be lying. Hopefully he's possesses as good a makeup as is reported and can handle it.

2007-04-26 15:55:18

42. OldYanksFan

Jetes said he would play YESTERDAY. If he's not in the lineup today... well... that doesn't bode well. Hopefully we will hear something about it soon.

Oops.. gotta always remember to check Pete out before I comment. From Lohud:
The Yankees just said Jeter was scratched. His leg is still sore but he will be available off the bench.

2007-04-26 15:56:33

43. Mattpat11

41 ""I can't imagine what Hughes is feeling."

"They''re batting WHO second?

2007-04-26 15:58:08

44. OldYanksFan

43 Planning ahead to pinch hit for him?

2007-04-26 15:58:37

45. mehmattski

43 Yeah, Shelley Duncan is a much much better #2 hitter than Man-Cave-Itch. Sigh.

2007-04-26 16:01:03

46. Jim Dean

33 No worries - I'm a big boy.

2007-04-26 16:01:54

47. Zack

I am so excited! Lieter in the booth, Hughes on the mound, bring it!

2007-04-26 16:03:11

48. unmoderated

argh! cant find the game on TV!

2007-04-26 16:04:41

49. Zack

Jesus, is Minky really batting 2nd tonight? is Joe actually that dumb? I mean, ok, if you aren't going to buy into OBP percentage etc, fine, but wouldn't logic dictate that you actualyl want people on base in front of your power hitters, and a guy hitting well below the mendoza line is not gonna get that done? And throw in Cairo at short and he is once again managing to hurt our chances of winning the game before it has even started. Good Lord!

But, I won't let that get me down, not tonight!

2007-04-26 16:08:00

50. mehmattski

Can we make comments about Phil Hughes' sister? She fine!

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2007-04-26 16:08:17

51. bartap74

Channel 9 in NYC.

2007-04-26 16:08:44

52. bartap74

I was just about to say, Ms. Hughes is hot!

2007-04-26 16:08:49

53. Zack

I was just gonna say that 50!

2007-04-26 16:09:00

54. seamus

51 Cairo isn't really Joe's fault. Jeter is injured. I cannot and will not defend the use of minky.

2007-04-26 16:09:03

55. unmoderated

oh man.
man oh man.

usually, if the game is on something besides yes, the local cable company will feed it on a different channel, but it is nowhere to be found.

2007-04-26 16:09:59

56. Zack

54 No, but with Cairo in, there's no need for Minky was my point

Weeel, not a good start phil!

2007-04-26 16:11:37

57. randym77

25 Hughes was already on the 40-man roster.

KT was sent down to make room on the 25-man.

2007-04-26 16:11:40

58. mehmattski

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughes! Love the cheer.

2007-04-26 16:11:52

59. Zack

Phil showing a nice curve, missing with the fastball thus far, just settle down...

2007-04-26 16:12:17

60. Zack

NIIIICE!

2007-04-26 16:12:40

61. Zack

My mlb.tv sound is a few secs before the video, which is infinitely annoying

2007-04-26 16:13:35

62. seamus

61 pause and restart. works for me. just a quick short pause.

2007-04-26 16:13:47

63. zanderthegreat

Igawa is no longer in the rotation. He's in the bullpen.

2007-04-26 16:14:06

64. zanderthegreat

Damn

2007-04-26 16:14:09

65. Zack

I realized I was using firfox instead of safari, which seems to make all the difference for whatever reason...

2007-04-26 16:14:31

66. mehmattski

Phil Hughes, meet major league hitters.

2007-04-26 16:14:38

67. Zack

And as I cut away, an rbi double, sigh

2007-04-26 16:15:17

68. zanderthegreat

66 Yeah, but these are some of the best.

2007-04-26 16:15:33

69. Hank

For those of us outside the NY area, please feel free to describe in detail. How's he look?

2007-04-26 16:16:07

70. Zack

Where was that call??

2007-04-26 16:16:52

71. zanderthegreat

Not lookin good

2007-04-26 16:17:28

72. zanderthegreat

Could happen to anyone though.

2007-04-26 16:18:04

73. Zack

Phil is spotting his 68-72 MPH curve pretty well, and missing on and off with a 94 MPH fastball, which is costing him. He looks fairly nervous, but not overly so. Vernon Wells hit a mistake, Thomas just hit a good pitch after getting a break on a shouldabeen strike 3...

2007-04-26 16:19:00

74. Zack

Jus tthrew two 81 mph changes, the second a swing and miss, real nice one

2007-04-26 16:19:17

75. its430

Thomas hit that like a pro - it was a perfect down and away 95mph fastball, and thomas just threw the bat out there and got a hit.

Leiter and Kay mentioned it as well, that is the difference w/ pro hitters.

2007-04-26 16:19:44

76. bartap74

Honestly, I think most of this is nerves. He should settle down in the 2nd.

2007-04-26 16:20:57

77. Zack

Hughes' delivery is picture perfect for a power pitcher

2007-04-26 16:21:24

78. mehmattski

76 Agreed, he's missing down, not up, and that bodes well.

2007-04-26 16:21:46

79. Hank

Any opinions on Gameday vs. Gamecast?

2007-04-26 16:21:51

80. zanderthegreat

Okay, not too bad

2007-04-26 16:22:39

81. Zack

Whoever that was just hit the ball literally off the top of the plate, and Cairo's weak arm made it close...

All in all, I would say an inning of nerves...if he can spot the fastball a bit more consistently (which is to say, still below what he normally does), he should do real well

2007-04-26 16:23:02

82. LI yankee

He looks really good, just one real mistake to Wells.

2007-04-26 16:23:08

83. Zack

whichever one mlb does is good...

2007-04-26 16:23:13

84. mehmattski

79 I actually like the CBS Sportsline game tracker better than all of them. ESPN's sucks for me. Yahoo's isn't bad but it doesn't have a lot of the features. MLB's is way too busy, I think, and slow.

2007-04-26 16:23:35

85. seamus

well, not as good as I might have hoped, but not bad. You can see he has the skills.

2007-04-26 16:23:36

86. bartap74

There is no excuse, whatsoever, for batting Scrabble second. None.

2007-04-26 16:24:18

87. zanderthegreat

Burnette has an era of 5.16. We should get at least 7.

2007-04-26 16:26:04

88. zanderthegreat

I would think Jeter should be playing. He didn't seem to be too bad yesterday.

2007-04-26 16:26:21

89. Zack

87 Yeah, which means we will score 1...

2007-04-26 16:26:59

90. zanderthegreat

89 Only if they score 2.

2007-04-26 16:27:31

91. Mattpat11

So, how did Hughes look?

2007-04-26 16:27:57

92. OldYanksFan

These guys are banged up with no closer. Really, we need to beat up on these guys. Good break to miss Halladay

2007-04-26 16:28:27

93. Mattpat11

I've found a positive for the Stink. He pulls balls. On the ground, but still.

2007-04-26 16:28:54

94. Zack

Sure is great having a useless auto-out at the top of the order...

2007-04-26 16:29:21

95. bartap74

Hughes looked good. Slim build, shoulder length black hair, nice smile....oh, you meant Phil.

2007-04-26 16:29:37

96. OldYanksFan

Abreu is an excellent player, but I kinda miss the scary-mean of Shef.

2007-04-26 16:29:58

97. Zack

We often seem to have the ability to somehow put pitchers back on track, don't ask me how...

2007-04-26 16:30:35

98. LI yankee

93 He must have pulled a lot of balls to get to bat 2nd.

2007-04-26 16:32:07

99. zanderthegreat

Three pitches, nice

2007-04-26 16:32:07

100. randym77

Why is Minky in the two-hole? Seems a very odd choice.

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2007-04-26 16:32:37

101. Zack

Nice sequenc