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Gitcher Broom for the Bride and Groom
2007-04-19 08:28
by Cliff Corcoran
Note: The Bronx Banter blog has moved to bronxbanterblog.com.

The last time the Yankees started three rookies in a row prior to September call-ups was August 2-4, 1991 when the Yankees sent Scott Kamieniecki, Jeff Johnson, and Wade Taylor to the hill against the Tigers in Detroit. To give you an idea of how long ago that was, Yankee hitting coach Don Mattingly was the first baseman. A's manager Bob Geren caught Taylor's game. Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens started two of those games. A rookie named Bernie Williams started all three in center field. Melky Cabrera was eagerly anticipating his seventh birthday. Bud Selig was simply the owner of the AL East's Milwaukee Brewers. Kurt Cobain wasn't famous yet, and the president was a guy named George Bush who, with the help of Dick Cheney, led us into a war in Iraq.

The Yankees lost all three of those games, allowing a minimum of seven runs in each. My how things have changed.

Today the Yankees throw Darrell Rasner, their third rookie starting pitcher in as many games, again Fausto Carmona. Carmona got lit up pretty good in his only previous start, that coming at home against the White Sox almost a week ago. Rasner, on the other hand, didn't allow an earned run or walk a batter on his way to a no-decision in the Yankees extra-inning win in Oakland this past Saturday.

Meanwhile, up in Toronto, the Red Sox are throwing Julian Tavarez against Roy Halliday. If the Yanks can pull out a sweep behind Darrell Rasner this afternoon, they stand a good chance of entering this weekend's series in Boston in a dead heat with the Sox.

More importantly, somewhere on a beach in Bermuda right around the time of the first pitch, our man Alex and his lovely bride Emily are going to become husband and wife. Please join me in wishing them a long, full lifetime of happiness, health, and prosperity together. Mazel tov!

Comments (499)
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2007-04-19 09:05:00
1.   dianagramr
Alex is getting married in Bermuda, or just honeymooning there?

Best wishes for laughs, love and happiness to Alex and Emily.

2007-04-19 09:12:32
2.   sam2175
1 I remember him describing it as "marrymooning".

Happy Marrymooning, Alex and Emily!

2007-04-19 09:14:14
3.   domvjr
Alex & Emily, may your life together be one of health, happiness, and prosperity. Congratulations!!

"Lets Go Yanks"

2007-04-19 09:17:00
4.   Rob Middletown CT
Congrats to the happy couple, of course.

Right, now that's out of the way, on to the important part: baseball.

;)

2007-04-19 09:17:34
5.   Cliff Corcoran
1 They're actually getting hitched there, on the beach, just the twos of them. They're basically eloping except they told everyone about it. Right now, they're not married. An hour from now, they will be.
2007-04-19 09:22:37
6.   seamus
yay for alex and em!
2007-04-19 09:39:44
7.   mehmattski
I own Wade Taylor's rookie card. Approximate value: 5 lira.
2007-04-19 09:43:43
8.   Cliff Corcoran
7 Taylor spent 11 years as an advance scout for the Yankees from 1996-2006.
2007-04-19 09:45:42
9.   williamnyy23
Congratulations...and make sure you don't include any "opt out" clauses!
2007-04-19 09:54:43
10.   seamus
9 my wife and i made up our own vows. every once in a while, when angry with me, she likes to point out that her's didn't include "until death do us part".
2007-04-19 09:55:29
11.   Sliced Bread
Best wishes to the bride and groom on the beach!

Here's wishing Alex and Emily a long, wonderful life together!

2007-04-19 10:01:51
12.   Bama Yankee
Alex and Emily, congratulations and may God bless your marriage.
2007-04-19 10:02:53
13.   Bama Yankee
9 Good one.
2007-04-19 10:05:02
14.   Shaun P
All the best to Alex and Emily!

Let's go Yanks! Would a wedding present win be too much to ask for?

2007-04-19 10:05:35
15.   rbj
Congrats to the happy couple

And whatever happened to that Bernie fella?

2007-04-19 10:14:14
16.   jkay
Cheers!
2007-04-19 10:15:00
17.   FingersCrossed
Nice DP!!! Let's go, Yankees!
2007-04-19 10:15:15
18.   mehmattski
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera LF
Mientkiewicz 1B
Nieves C
Rasner RHP

7-8-9 makes me cringe right now. I thought Thompson would get a start today for sure. Maybe with the weak hitters behind him, Cano will take a few more walks today.

2007-04-19 10:16:55
19.   thelarmis
Congrats Alex & Emily!!!

i can't see anything - how'd that DP go down?

2007-04-19 10:17:56
20.   rbj
Three up, three down. Way to not get rattled by a lead off double, Darrell.
2007-04-19 10:18:10
21.   Zack
How can the Jays only have one run off Tavarez thus far.

And congrats Alex and Emily!

2007-04-19 10:19:52
22.   FingersCrossed
Sizemore hit a double.
Baldelli hit a line drive which Cano snags
and throw it to Jeter covering 2B.
Sizemore tagged retreating to 2B.
That was good fielding. :)
2007-04-19 10:20:47
23.   thelarmis
nice, thanks fingers crossed! how'd baldelli get to cleveland from tampa?! ; )
2007-04-19 10:26:21
24.   Javi Javi
22 23
Delucci, Baldelli, Fasano, Pavano--let's call the whole thing off.
2007-04-19 10:26:49
25.   ny2ca2dc
Congrats A & E! Kind of neat the way they're doing it.

A Yanks win wedded (ha ha, marriage pun) to a Sox loss today, follwed by the Yanks winning at least one in Fenway would be nice indeed

2007-04-19 10:30:29
26.   FingersCrossed
Hey, I have enough trouble to remember the names of OUR guys as it is... :D
Like whatshisname Menkxjwmejwxjmejx.
2007-04-19 10:31:54
27.   thelarmis
24 carrasco, orosco, batista, reitsma -- let's call the whole thing off.

this is fun! not quite louis & ella, but it'll do : )

2007-04-19 10:33:51
28.   FingersCrossed
A Rod, B Rod, C Rod, D Rod...
2007-04-19 10:36:20
29.   mehmattski
28 Interestingly, no one named Rodriguez has ever played baseball with a first name beginning with a "B" or a "D"

http://tinyurl.com/2fp7wr

2007-04-19 10:37:11
30.   FingersCrossed
Kidding aside, sometimes it is hard for us foreiners to remember their names. And I swear, Britton and Bruney are clones.
2007-04-19 10:41:03
31.   thelarmis
steinbach, mackowiak, lackey, simontacchi

uy, someone stop me : ~

2007-04-19 10:41:57
32.   mehmattski
Is there a more satisfying way to end an inning than a strike-em-out-throw-em-out?
2007-04-19 10:42:12
33.   joejoejoe
My favorite game this year was when F-Her outdueled Dice-K.
2007-04-19 10:43:36
34.   dianagramr
31

You should never argue with Mackowiak-ak-ak-ak-ak
You oughta know by now

2007-04-19 10:43:57
35.   Zack
Anyone else get the feeling this will be a typical URP game?
2007-04-19 10:43:57
36.   joejoejoe
32 I like fly-out-thrown-out attempting to score on a sac-fly.
2007-04-19 10:45:48
37.   FingersCrossed
Wow, this game is going smooth.
Now if the bats would come to life...
29 Yeah, I know. :D
I'm eagerly waiting for X-Rod and Z-Rod to show up.
2007-04-19 10:46:32
38.   Sliced Bread
According to Gameday, which is a little slow today, Alex and Emily are on the beach, and warming up.

I expect it will update soon, once the vows are exchanged.

Bob Lorenz will probably have a wedding update as well from the YES studio.

2007-04-19 10:46:53
39.   mehmattski
35 With automatic outs from one third of the lineup (despite Melky's single), it seems pretty likely. But Rasner seems to be keepin the Yanks in this. Just need a bloop and a blast and they're on their way.
2007-04-19 10:48:00
40.   Zack
Minky is so so useless
2007-04-19 10:48:44
41.   seamus
minky really sucks
2007-04-19 10:49:09
42.   mehmattski
38 In typical Gameday fashion, rather than a current picture, the shot of Alex is from his Coen Brothers days:

http://newpartisan.com/icleart/belth.jpg

2007-04-19 10:50:16
43.   seamus
are we at least buildnig the pitch count?
2007-04-19 10:50:37
44.   monkeypants
40, 41 Yeah, bottom of order = sinkhole. Which streak is/was more impressive, Minky's or Nieves'?
2007-04-19 10:50:46
45.   Mattpat11
Its cool to see Mientkiewicz back to normal after that brief flirtation with competence.
2007-04-19 10:52:11
46.   joejoejoe
Onix, Teufal, Redfield, Bluege
2007-04-19 10:53:08
47.   seamus
uno, dos, tres, cuatro
2007-04-19 10:53:19
48.   Jim Dean
Really, do we really have to wait two to four more weeks for Phleps to get regular playing time?

It's pretty freakin' outstanding that the GM can put together a team that gives away 6 to 8 outs at least one game a week.

Bravo! BRAV-O!

2007-04-19 10:54:41
49.   FingersCrossed
That pitcher who fed Minky with a homer the other day probably needs therapy by now.
2007-04-19 10:56:30
50.   thelarmis
aleph, bet, gimel, daled
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2007-04-19 10:56:48
51.   Cliff Corcoran
34 Glad to know I'm not the only one who sings that in my head every time I see his name.
2007-04-19 10:57:04
52.   OldYanksFan
It probably can't be done, but it would be nice if we could rest Jorge on a day we face a LH, so we could our 7-8-9 could be

Phelps
KT
Nieves

as opposed to

Posada
Cabrara
Minky

so we don't have Nieves and Minky in the same line-up.

2007-04-19 10:57:46
53.   Zack
Damn quick inning by Rasner. Got up to bring a dish into the kitchen, came back and it was done!
2007-04-19 10:58:02
54.   FingersCrossed
Does Torre have so much confidence in our top and heart of order guys to put up a line up like this? Or are we lacking the faith?
2007-04-19 10:59:10
55.   Cliff Corcoran
fifth, fift, Rod-ree-gez, Roj-ree-gis

Let's turn Michael Kay off . . .

2007-04-19 10:59:44
56.   FingersCrossed
Yeah, Damon!
Now, let's score some runs!
2007-04-19 11:00:22
57.   nyyfan22
Congrats to Alex. Marriage is fun sometimes.

For those of you who didn't the no no from last night, go here:

http://tinyurl.com/38l58v

Then click on the 400K link for 'video top plays' for TEX v CWS - they show every PA for TEX. Man, there were some hard hit balls and some great plays made by Chicago.

2007-04-19 11:01:31
58.   rbj
Grrr, Gamechannel's stuck. Right at the point where the minister asked Emily if she would take Alex as her husband, too.
2007-04-19 11:02:57
59.   dianagramr
51

It DOES get accessed by the brain a bit easier than this

http://www.baseball-reference.com/f/furmajj01.shtml

2007-04-19 11:03:40
60.   FingersCrossed
Yeah! Sweep Abreu with a rbi!
Now come on, Arod.
2007-04-19 11:03:51
61.   Zack
So, just thinking here:
Let's say that Pavano doesn't come back for awhile and Karstens keeps his place. Then, let's say that Rasner keeps the #5 spot, and Iggy his. If either Moose and Pettitte go down (lets hope not) for any amount of time later, and assuming/hoping Hughes continues to pitch as expected (aka last night), there is a very real chance that at some point this season our rotation will consist of 4 rookies! Who woulda thunk that two years ago?
2007-04-19 11:05:12
62.   Cliff Corcoran
59 My favorite baseball name of the last year!
2007-04-19 11:05:22
63.   FingersCrossed
Abreu steals second!
Come on, Arod...
2007-04-19 11:05:32
64.   Zack
Alex has been king a lot this series...not to nit-pick
2007-04-19 11:06:47
65.   Sliced Bread
55 Ugh! The Roj-ree-gis thing has been killing me since you brought it up.

Almost as annoying as Mad Dog's Mun'dee, Toos'dee, Wenns'dee, Fri'dee, Satter'dee

2007-04-19 11:07:02
66.   Cliff Corcoran
Not for nothing, but as much as I hate sacrifice bunts, I love the stolen base (provided you have a high success rate, which the Yankees do).
2007-04-19 11:08:46
67.   Cliff Corcoran
65 My stepmom and boss both say "mondee" etc. I've kinda gotten used to that.
2007-04-19 11:08:57
68.   mehmattski
59 FWIW, six MLB players have been born in Hackensack-ak-ak:

Doug Glanville
Eric Karros
Bill Hands
Harry Harper
Stan Pitula
Willie Prall

2007-04-19 11:09:14
69.   qveller
Wait, is it too late to yell mazel tov for Alex and Emily? No? Well, then...
2007-04-19 11:10:28
70.   Cliff Corcoran
The Blue Jays have taken a 2-1 lead in the sixth and have a man on second.

Not that scoreboard watching should be done this early in the season, but it would be fun to enter the weekend with the Yanks and Sox tied.

2007-04-19 11:12:52
71.   thelarmis
and the man on 2nd scores! jays up 3-1.

i, too, love the stolen base

2007-04-19 11:13:12
72.   Jim Dean
Since Helton is showing himself healthy, and it's likely the Sox would pull the trigger sooner or later, anyone change their mind about the Yanks making a move?
2007-04-19 11:13:23
73.   seamus
70 i just hate being behind boston. 1st week, last week, and in between.
2007-04-19 11:13:23
74.   Mattpat11
darn
2007-04-19 11:13:32
75.   mehmattski
In other scoreboard news, I think that Jamie Moyer is the Phillies' best hitter right now.
2007-04-19 11:13:34
76.   thelarmis
piniero relieved freddy krueger, er, tavarez
2007-04-19 11:13:45
77.   Zack
Yuck
2007-04-19 11:14:12
78.   FingersCrossed
Damned Badellucci... hit a homer.
Game tied.
Let's go Rasner!
2007-04-19 11:14:14
79.   rbj
Dang.
2007-04-19 11:14:36
80.   Jim Dean
70 It's never too early. And entering the weekend tied would be really fun indeed - especially since the Yanks can't be expected to win more than one game.
2007-04-19 11:14:41
81.   thelarmis
bollocks.
2007-04-19 11:15:48
82.   Zack
The yankees just really need to get the Sox starters out of the game as asap
2007-04-19 11:17:28
83.   Cliff Corcoran
82 is that like "with au jus"?
2007-04-19 11:17:57
84.   Zack
Hope Rasner's blisters haven't come back
2007-04-19 11:18:27
85.   FingersCrossed
Darrell, take a deep breath.
Calm down, and get out of it.
Let's go defense!
2007-04-19 11:19:13
86.   Jim Dean
82 Yup. Considering the Sox pitchers haven't faced a lineup like the Yanks yet (since there aren't any), it will be interesting to see. And I'm glad we won't see Wakefield - he's the only one impervious to the "wait to hit" strategy.
2007-04-19 11:19:21
87.   Zack
I think it might be more like he hit into a GIDP"
2007-04-19 11:20:21
88.   Cliff Corcoran
87 very nice
2007-04-19 11:20:40
89.   FingersCrossed
Man, HBP.
Rasner seems out of gas, too.
2007-04-19 11:20:57
90.   Zack
Ummm, this sucks
2007-04-19 11:21:02
91.   rbj
GIDP sounds good right about now. Rasner needs to go 8, with a two run lead so Mo can get a save under his belt and the bullpen is rested for the weekend.
2007-04-19 11:21:10
92.   Sliced Bread
87 or batted in an RBI
2007-04-19 11:21:38
93.   Cliff Corcoran
87 Speaking of, we could use Blake to hit into a GIDP right about now.
2007-04-19 11:21:48
94.   williamnyy23
Paging Sean Henn!
2007-04-19 11:22:16
95.   FingersCrossed
Whew! Thought they would advance!
2007-04-19 11:22:25
96.   Cliff Corcoran
92 Hit by an HBP?
2007-04-19 11:24:09
97.   Zack
Or, of course, the not quite the same "pitched a complete game shutout"
2007-04-19 11:24:12
98.   Mattpat11
RAZ THEM UP!

That makes no sense.

2007-04-19 11:24:32
99.   Zack
Niiiiiice
2007-04-19 11:24:41
100.   rbj
Yay, Darrell! Bending but not breaking.
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2007-04-19 11:24:45
101.   FingersCrossed
Great job striking him out! Rasner!
Very very impressive. 3 LOBs.
Nice cheering from fans.
2007-04-19 11:24:48
102.   thelarmis
YEAH!

way to bare down, razzle!

2007-04-19 11:25:18
103.   Cliff Corcoran
Or a pop out and a K. Good work Rasner!
2007-04-19 11:25:41
104.   williamnyy23
Some Razzle Dazzle.
2007-04-19 11:26:50
105.   FingersCrossed
That inning couldn't have ended better for Rasner. Wow, still shocked. :D
2007-04-19 11:27:30
106.   Mattpat11
You know, it didn't go our way, but Game 7 was a pretty damn memorable game as well
2007-04-19 11:29:10
107.   Mattpat11
Cano runs like me.
2007-04-19 11:29:25
108.   FingersCrossed
Okay, this is it for our blackholes to shine.
Mel-ky. Clap, clap, clap.
Min-ky. Clap, clap, clap.
Wil-ly. Clap, clap, clap.
2007-04-19 11:29:36
109.   Zack
The ever speedy cano
2007-04-19 11:30:12
110.   mehmattski
According to the Gloggers on CBS sportsline, the last pitch from Rasner had "a little something extra on it." Is this true? What did the radar gun say?
2007-04-19 11:30:47
111.   Mattpat11
LETS GO MIENT...

Eh, its not worth it.

2007-04-19 11:31:44
112.   williamnyy23
Susan Waldman is giving out batting tips on WCBS. I sure hope someone on the Yankees staff is writing them down.
2007-04-19 11:31:59
113.   Zack
Can't Phelps pinch hit for Minky? Just because its the 4th doesn't mean anything
2007-04-19 11:32:09
114.   Mattpat11
Again, the logic in allowing a shitty hitter to hit and run?

Paulie called that a line drive?

2007-04-19 11:32:40
115.   Mattpat11
112 I hope Mink the Stink is. Suzyn can hit better than him.
2007-04-19 11:32:49
116.   williamnyy23
On the radio, Sterling said the last two pitches were clocked at 91 mph.
2007-04-19 11:33:18
117.   Zack
The wasteland that is the bottom of our order strikes again
2007-04-19 11:34:13
118.   Sliced Bread
Doug Out doesn't consider it a "productive out" unless he strands at least 2 runners in scoring position.
2007-04-19 11:34:29
119.   FingersCrossed
Man, this 3 man set up is like a collateral damage. One out shines, two out suck him back.
2007-04-19 11:35:22
120.   Jim Dean
I'm starting a NoMaas-style Cashman losses.

If they lose today, that's three games already lost because of their "bench" or lack thereof.

1. Cairo in LF day
2. Minky 7 LOB day
3. ???

That's f'in disgusting. Just truly horrid.

2007-04-19 11:37:55
121.   Zack
ummm, Joe, is it realyl nec. to go to the bullpen now?
2007-04-19 11:37:58
122.   Mattpat11
I hold the Mientkiewicz disaster over Cashman's head.
2007-04-19 11:39:49
123.   Zack
120 Dude, you can't knock Cashman for having Damon AND Matsui go down at once. And the Minky 7 LOB game was so much more TOrre's fault. I do fault Cashman for having Minky on the team to begin with, but he can still amend for such a bad move
2007-04-19 11:40:06
124.   rbj
Maybe blister?
2007-04-19 11:40:37
125.   pistolpete
121 Wow, what?!!
2007-04-19 11:42:33
126.   Javi Javi
122 in all fairness to eyechart, and I am no fan, he did make a good catch leaning over the tarp--an important contribution to limiting damage last inning.
2007-04-19 11:42:41
127.   FingersCrossed
Take JoPo and Phelps out, and we're 8 runs short...
Hope this was Minky's last plate appearance.
2007-04-19 11:43:51
128.   Mattpat11
123 I fault him for signing a hideous baseball player like Doug Mientkiewicz on a team that hopes to contend.
2007-04-19 11:44:30
129.   Mattpat11
126 So make him a ninth inning defensive replacement.
2007-04-19 11:45:56
130.   OldYanksFan
Gentlemen.... Cashman/Torre can post 60 loses and still have us looking pretty good.

There's only a scoreboard with a score of 1 or 1 that counts. AL East Champs. 0 or 1? How does Cash/Torre stack up there over the last 10 years?

If ARod or Jete bat .400, will you be pissed at them for the 6 times they made out?

2007-04-19 11:46:39
131.   rbj
Any word yet on why Darrell had to come out of the game?
2007-04-19 11:48:22
132.   Zack
I think Torre just had him on a short leash....
2007-04-19 11:48:35
133.   williamnyy23
I usually kill Torre for bullpen management, so I have to give him credit for recognizing a good time to bring in Meyers. Now, he has to realize when to take him out.
2007-04-19 11:49:15
134.   Mattpat11
Poor decision making and bad roster moves have cost us world championships the last five years.
2007-04-19 11:49:18
135.   OldYanksFan
I wish Kaye would define just what 'deep' is. 30' in front of the warning track?
2007-04-19 11:49:35
136.   Shaun P
What more does Stinky Minky have to do to get benched? Free Josh Phelps!
2007-04-19 11:49:58
137.   Mattpat11
136 Homicide.
2007-04-19 11:50:25
138.   thelarmis
shit, manny goes yard for the first time this season. sux tied it up...
2007-04-19 11:51:26
139.   williamnyy23
138 I feel bad for the Jays...losing Ryan is going to kill them all season. Having to rely on Shawn Marcum to pitch to Manny is pretty pathetic.
2007-04-19 11:51:48
140.   Mattpat11
138 I'd rather Manny go yard now than tomorrow.

Yes, I'm aware he'll have 8 HR over the next 5 games.

Wow, you wouldn't know Carmona sucked watching him play the Yankees

2007-04-19 11:52:17
141.   Mattpat11
139 I don't. I like the Jays being put in their place.
2007-04-19 11:53:03
142.   Shaun P
134 I may agree with your sentiment, but that's an overly broad generalization that has no provable basis in fact. Even with a great bench, and no (few) bad roster moves, the Yanks are not guaranteed a World Series win (see 1997). Shoot, in 2003, even WITH a horrid bench and many bad roster moves, the Yanks came within two games of winning it all.
2007-04-19 11:54:11
143.   FingersCrossed
Okay, hope Mr. Kay don't jinx Arod next inning...
2007-04-19 11:55:15
144.   williamnyy23
Here's the time to remove Meyers now!!
2007-04-19 11:55:17
145.   Mattpat11
142

And if we didn't make the horrible Boone trade or put Jeff Weaver in a game that counted, we might have won that world series.

2007-04-19 11:55:33
146.   Jim Dean
123 Come on. We knew those injuries were inevitable. The problem was having Cairo on the team AND three 1B's. That's Cashman.

128 Yup.

130 Last I looked Cashman inherited a team that was Serious winning every year. Now? They haven't been in the Series in three years.

And weren't you one that was crowing about Cashman making more moves in January/February?

2007-04-19 11:56:45
147.   Shaun P
140 You mean the Yanks are pressing against a strike-throwing right hander who has horrible stats? Surely you jest!

I'd say Carmona is URPing the Yanks, except he's not unknown and he's not a rookie.

2007-04-19 11:56:59
148.   williamnyy23
145 Horrible Boone trade? Have you forgotten Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS.

The 2001 World Series doesn't bother me one bit...I look at it as the Series they won 3 games to 4.

2007-04-19 11:58:13
149.   Zack
I would say that it was time to pull Myers before this batter
2007-04-19 11:58:25
150.   williamnyy23
I take it back Joe...way to wait one batter too late...sigh.
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2007-04-19 11:59:11
151.   Shaun P
"130 Last I looked Cashman inherited a team that was Serious winning every year. Now? They haven't been in the Series in three years."

Yeah, except 1997 was Watson's last year, and the Yanks didn't win diddly squat.

And given the crapshoot that the postseason is, I certainly wouldn't say Cashman is a bad GM just because the Yanks haven't played in the Series in 3 years.

The entitlement crap is very old. I blame Derek Jeter for his pointless "If we don't win the Series the year is a waste" cliche - repeated far too often over the years. I wish he'd take it back.

2007-04-19 11:59:49
152.   mehmattski
134 Yeah, a team with Clay Bellinger (.207/.288/.370) and Chris Turner (.236/.320/.303) could never win a world series. And despite resigning David Cone (73 ERA+) and trading for Denny Neagle (87 ERA+), too!
2007-04-19 12:00:35
153.   williamnyy23
151 Who cares about 1997...I blame Joe Torre for not knowing when to remove a reliever from the game!!
2007-04-19 12:00:35
154.   FingersCrossed
Sure would be nice if Myers could be more than a LOOGY. Oh wel... Bruney up.
2007-04-19 12:00:56
155.   rbj
Why does gamechannel still have Bruney's AZ photo up?
2007-04-19 12:00:56
156.   Zack
Las tI checked Cashman actually inherited a team that had one ONE WS and been bumped from the playoffs the year before...
2007-04-19 12:01:04
157.   Zack
Damn, i can't type today
2007-04-19 12:01:23
158.   Mattpat11
148 I also haven't forgotten the 2003 World Series. Where his incompetence allowed Jeff Weaver to come into a game. Or the 2003 regular season where he sucked. Or the 2003 ALDS where he sucked. Or the 2003 ALCS where he sucked so bad he was benched for ENRIQUE WILSON in the biggest game ever. Or the 2003 World Series where he sucked.
2007-04-19 12:03:01
159.   Jim Dean
148 You mean the 2003 ALCS.

And me I don't have a problem with the the Boone trade - it led to Arod.

My problem is more with the lack of a CF (for two years) leading to the Bubba Crosby game in 2005

And last year it was not having a 1B (all year) led to Shef at 1B.

And still they have no 1B. That's disgusting.

2007-04-19 12:03:30
160.   Mattpat11
151 He's right. It is a waste. You don't play baseball to gain moral victories. You play baseball to win a world series.
2007-04-19 12:03:36
161.   Zack
Wait, Boone is responsible for Jeff Weaver and not Mo pitching that game?
2007-04-19 12:03:41
162.   williamnyy23
151 Who cares about 1997...I blame Joe Torre for not knowing when to remove a reliever from the game!!
2007-04-19 12:03:54
163.   Shaun P
145 There's no guarantee that the Yanks win Game 4 of the '03 Serious even if Mo pitched and Weaver never saw daylight.

The problem there was that Torre made a dumb decision, saving Mo for a save - not that the Yanks lost (which stunk, but that's baseball).

And even if Torre made the right decision, and put Mo in, not Weaver - the result could have been the same.

But you can't say that that move cost the Yanks the Serious, any more than Buckner's error cost the Red Sox in '86. There were still 3 games to play in '03, and the Yanks didn't get it done, plain and simple.

2007-04-19 12:04:25
164.   williamnyy23
158 That has nothing to do with THE Boone trade...simply put...no Boone...no Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS.
2007-04-19 12:05:16
165.   pistolpete
164 2003 ALCS
2007-04-19 12:05:58
166.   Jim Dean
For all the Cashman Defenders - really why Minky?

A 1B should be easy to get if you give up something. They made three trades this offseason and they couldn't get a full-time 1B in one of them? Really?

2007-04-19 12:06:01
167.   williamnyy23
164 exactly :)
2007-04-19 12:06:08
168.   williamnyy23
164 exactly :)
2007-04-19 12:06:20
169.   Zack
This game is starting to suck
2007-04-19 12:06:25
170.   Mattpat11
161 Aaron Boone hits a ball in the air and Mariano Rivera enters that game.

I can't imagine anyone thinking one swing vindicates an AWFUL run with the team. People compare him to Bucky Dent. Bucky Dent was the World Series MVP. Boone couldn't hit a ball into the air.

2007-04-19 12:06:44
171.   FingersCrossed
Garko singles, Hafner to 2nd.
No outs. This sucks.
Come on, Bruney, you can do it!
2007-04-19 12:07:16
172.   williamnyy23
The frustration of baseball...some poor bullpen management from two managers and the Yankees can go from picking up a game to losing a game on Boston.
2007-04-19 12:07:20
173.   Zack
The problem is that we have a full time 1B, its just that we are DHing him. Cashman is to blame for Minky, I am just holding out hope that he rectifies that msitake forthwith
2007-04-19 12:07:28
174.   FingersCrossed
Sweep Arod!!
2007-04-19 12:07:38
175.   mehmattski
166 Because Cashman doesn't want you to enjoy baseball games.
2007-04-19 12:07:59
176.   FingersCrossed
Sucked that linedrive right into his glove!
2007-04-19 12:08:16
177.   Mattpat11
164 Oh please. If we had a competent third baseman, it we may not have had to wait until the 11th inning of game seven
2007-04-19 12:09:17
178.   Mattpat11
166 OMG DEFENSE. Clearly.
2007-04-19 12:09:20
179.   williamnyy23
170 That Boone HR is one of my favorite moments. All of his other ABs combined (inlcuding the awful one in the WS) don't come close to taking anything away from that dramatic HR!
2007-04-19 12:09:20
180.   pistolpete
I still have faith we'll have Mark Texiera at some point.
2007-04-19 12:09:20
181.   rbj
That's one out.
2007-04-19 12:09:55
182.   Zack
Wow, small crowd today
2007-04-19 12:10:09
183.   Mattpat11
179 YAY FOR YOU!
2007-04-19 12:10:50
184.   Mattpat11
180 We'll have to deal with another two years of this first.
2007-04-19 12:11:04
185.   Shaun P
160 And by saying that, Jeter has indirectly led to the creation of a generation of Yankee fans who get ticked off in the middle of an April day game because the backup catcher stinks, the first baseman can't hit, and Joe Torre probably left LOOGY Myers in one batter too long - and because the Yanks haven't won the World Series in 7 years, or been in one in 4. Let's forget the entirety of the season and focus on a couple of innings of a lousy game in which . . . what's that you say? The score is 1-1? In the 5th inning?

You would think it was 20-1 Indians, and the outcome of the game determined if the Yanks went to the playoffs or not.

I can only imagine what things would be like if this was April 19, 1991.

You know, if the results of the regular season are so meaningless, except for entry to the postseason, maybe Derek should give back a large chunk of his yearly salary for each year the Yanks didn't win it all. That would impress me a hell of a lot more than his tired "We didn't win the Series - the year is a failure" garbage.

2007-04-19 12:11:40
186.   Mattpat11
Back to the game. that was awesome. I have a man crush on Brian Bruney
2007-04-19 12:11:53
187.   Zack
Nice work Brian!
2007-04-19 12:11:53
188.   pistolpete
184 Nah, not if Texeira's available......
2007-04-19 12:11:58
189.   mehmattski
185 Amen.
2007-04-19 12:12:20
190.   pistolpete
YES!!! BRUNEY!!!!
2007-04-19 12:12:31
191.   FingersCrossed
Henn is warming up...
Phew, nice time for a infield pop out there.
One more to go...
Yey! Melky catches one.
Another 3 LOBs for them!
We survive!
Let's go Yankees!
2007-04-19 12:12:33
192.   williamnyy23
183 I guess it's too bad you can't enjoy one of the greatest moments in Yankees history...kind of defeats the purpose of being a fan.
2007-04-19 12:12:44
193.   rbj
Number two.

185 Well put.

2007-04-19 12:13:36
194.   rbj
Wow, #3 came real quick. What did we give up to get him again?
2007-04-19 12:13:37
195.   Jim Dean
173 After how many games? People like OYF were saying a move would be made in Jan. We'll be lucky if they do something in June.

So half a season with Minky?

Sure, Tea should be playing Phelps full-time now (with Minky as a LIDR), but given we alreasdy played that game with Phillips (and Cairo starting at 1B last April), it is f'in absurd for the NY Yankees.

2007-04-19 12:13:38
196.   pistolpete
185 "I can only imagine what things would be like if this was April 19, 1991."

Difference is, in 1991, we were all lulled into a 3rd & 4th place mentality for the previous 9 years...:)

2007-04-19 12:13:43
197.   Sliced Bread
Wahoos are stranding runners galore!

The Cleveland Mientkiewiczs

2007-04-19 12:13:48
198.   mehmattski
Let's see if Alex breaks the string of eight straight strikes.
2007-04-19 12:14:00
199.   Mattpat11
185 Not two years ago I saw the Yankees tie for first place. I may be a bit crazy, but I think games in April count just as much as games in September

And there's nothing wrong with fans who want to win a world series. You start accepting mediocrity and you become Cubs fans.

2007-04-19 12:14:29
200.   Zack
Damn it A-Rod, you suck!
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2007-04-19 12:15:04
201.   mehmattski
194 Absolutely nothing. Man, that Cashman guy really stinks, huh?
2007-04-19 12:15:28
202.   pistolpete
Well, gotta give it to Boston - April is definitely their month. I really can't recall them starting slow in recent seasons, can anyone else?
2007-04-19 12:15:46
203.   Sliced Bread
G'bombee!
2007-04-19 12:15:47
204.   Mattpat11
192 I enjoyed it. And then it was time for the World Series. And Boone was a massive reason we lost.

GIAMBINO.

2007-04-19 12:15:57
205.   FingersCrossed
Giambi goes yard!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-19 12:16:11
206.   mehmattski
199 Leading the majors in runs scored (again) is mediocrity?
2007-04-19 12:16:18
207.   claybeez
Welcome back, Good Giambi.
2007-04-19 12:16:41
208.   Mattpat11
Being one of 29 losers is a mediocrity.
2007-04-19 12:16:54
209.   rbj
Giambiner!

201 A-yup. Thanks.

2007-04-19 12:17:36
210.   williamnyy23
202 We don't have to give it to them, but the Blue Jays sure seemed intent on doing so.
2007-04-19 12:18:04
211.   Shaun P
195 I can't stand to see Minky hit either, Jim.

But without being in the office when Cashman made his offseason moves, and tried to make others we don't know about, we have absolutely no idea if he tried to get another alternative for 1B or not. To presume he did not - or that he should have - is speculative at best and specious at worst.

GIAMBI!!

2007-04-19 12:18:16
212.   ny2ca2dc
my god, the sound it makes over mlb.tv when giambino (or other) hits is yard like that... wow. like a frigin sonic boom
2007-04-19 12:18:24
213.   Jim Dean
185 Shaun - it's about dumb, dumb decisions. Ones we could all see at the time:

Pavano - check
Wright - check
Womack - check
Minky - check
Erickson - check
Long - check

It's been a few years of this nonsense. That's all on the GM.

When you've got the likes of Bubba Crosby ad Jaret Wright starting deciding playoff games, you can't expect to win. That's a problem.

And Minky still is.

2007-04-19 12:18:39
214.   FingersCrossed
They still let Carmona pitch?
What's his pitch count anybody know?
The kid hangs tough, though...
2007-04-19 12:18:41
215.   williamnyy23
208 Yawn...I'm pretty sure mediocrity isn't defined that broadly.
2007-04-19 12:18:58
216.   pistolpete
210 Eh, we'll all be laughing about today in October when we've won the division by 9 games and Boston misses the playoffs again.
2007-04-19 12:18:59
217.   mehmattski
By the way, that was only the 17th and 18th time that Robinson Cano has swung and missed this season. In 220 pitches.
2007-04-19 12:19:41
218.   Mattpat11
211 Thats such a cop out. We weren't in the room with him when he signed the worst possible option available, so who can eb angry?

I wasn't there when he signed Pavano either. Was that a good job?

2007-04-19 12:21:19
219.   williamnyy23
At least Papelbon will have back to back appearances headed into the weekend.
2007-04-19 12:21:29
220.   Mattpat11
215 Well that's a shame now isn't it? Its bred a culture where "just making it" or "being in contention" is this huge victory that we should all be proud of.
2007-04-19 12:21:31
221.   mehmattski
213 I'd say that taking a chance on Melky in 2006 and Small/Chacon in 2005 more than cancel out the Erickson/Long bad decisions, which affected the Yankees, combined, for about a week.

Not going to argue about Jaret Wright or Tony Womack. Pavano was a bargian at the time and no one would have expected this level of not playing.

2007-04-19 12:21:42
222.   ny2ca2dc
218 who's a better option at 1st? then we can talk.

not going to defend some o the other ones though...

2007-04-19 12:23:10
223.   FingersCrossed
That 2 innings with 3 LOBs for the Indians were awesome. Props to them.
Oh, Vizier is on. Let's go, Vizcaino!
2007-04-19 12:23:32
224.   Cliff Corcoran
208 Actually that's overwhelming majority.

Look I freaking hated Aaron Boone in the 2003 postseason and it still ticks me off that he was the one who got that homer, but what did the Yankees give up for him and Gabe White again? And who is that guy playing for now? Everyone hated that trade at the time because they were convinced Claussen was going to be an ace, but I thought it was a good one and, even though Boone went bust, I still think it was a good move. Where Cash screwed up was dumping Ventura rather than keeping him around as a lefty PH who could have hit for Boone in a spot like that one in Game 4 of the WS. Then again, if Torre calls a squeeze bunt, the Yanks win that game anyway.

Still not sure what the point is, though. Watching this game, you can focus on Minky and Nieves. I'll focus on Rasner and Bruney, two guys Cashman astutely plucked off the waiver wire for free.

2007-04-19 12:23:44
225.   Zack
Oh god, is this game headed for Farns in the 8th? What was that, a one game demotion?
2007-04-19 12:23:55
226.   rbj
Be grand, Vizier.
2007-04-19 12:23:57
227.   Mattpat11
221 Pavano was a bad pitcher coming off a career year. Prior to 2004, Pavano had pitched to the league average over 150 innings ZERO TIMES.

This set off no warning bells? He was such a bargain?

2007-04-19 12:24:04
228.   williamnyy23
220 It sounds like it's a shame for you...I'm not the one who can't enjoy being a fan of one of the best teams in all of sports.
2007-04-19 12:24:59
229.   Jim Dean
It looks like I have a new friend around here in Mattpat11. Where were you this off-season? it was a lonely, daily battle.

It is a cop out Shaun. A young 1B that can hit a little is the easisest position to fill - guys like Garko and Broussard and Shelton and Jackson - all would be much better than Minky.

Phelps could be that too. But when Cashman made the decision to bring in Minky he had to know Tea would give him the majority of the starts.

And all you making fun of me for the BUC argument, keep saying your nightly prayer for Jorge. Shoot, it's not like they ever had a backup for him.

2007-04-19 12:26:45
230.   bartap74
Is Jim Leyritz still available?
2007-04-19 12:26:46
231.   Mattpat11
228I enjoy the Yankees. But I take no moral victories in losing. If every season is some huge success, it makes them eventually winning mean nothing.
2007-04-19 12:26:49
232.   Shaun P
213 Sure, I agree those were dumb decisions, at the time and in retrospect - except for Pavano, who (despite being overpaid, such is the price of even mediocre pitching) if he was a LAIM (league average innings muncher) would have been fine. And Pavano COULD have been a LAIM.

But we've been down this road before. Evaluating Cashman over the years is hard, because who knows what he did, and who knows what the Tampa Cabal did. So look at the last couple of years.

Minky is on Cashman's shoulders, but so is Damon.

Long is on Cashman's shoulders, but so is Bruney.

Erickson is on Cashman's shoulders, but so is promoting Wang and Cano and insisting they play.

And on and on.

No GM is perfect. Even George Weiss didn't take advantage of Bob Cerv. But on the whole, Cashman's motives are in the right place, and his methodology is sound. The Yanks are going in the right direction and if there are bumps in the road, like Minky, I'd still rather have Cashman running the show than some Tampa Toady.

In fact, I can't think of anyone else I could reasonably suggest as a replacement for Cashman, who we can guarantee would be better.

2007-04-19 12:26:56
233.   williamnyy23
I am listening on radio...is that Vizcaino in the game or Farnsworth (sarcasm)?
2007-04-19 12:27:31
234.   Mattpat11
229 I was on NYYFans.com. I got banned for fighting this battle and calling a mental reject out for being unable to count.
2007-04-19 12:28:28
235.   Jim Dean
224 Neither Rasner nor Bruney play everyday.

And the cheapness of RHRP (Bruney) is exactly why you don't make one (Vizcaino) the centerpiece of a deal for a HOF pitcher (Unit), especially not when they had at least three young 1B's and two BUC's to choose from.

2007-04-19 12:28:51
236.   Sliced Bread
Yanks caught a break there, Michaels could have scored, no?
2007-04-19 12:28:56
237.   Zack
Eh, this is starting to suck again
2007-04-19 12:29:01
238.   rbj
Grrrrr.
2007-04-19 12:29:10
239.   Mattpat11
213 What about Carl Pavano ever gave you the impression that he was a league average pitcher and/or innings eater? The one year in his entire career he did that?
2007-04-19 12:29:34
240.   williamnyy23
Sizemore, Dellucci, Hafner...Henn in the bullpen. Why not save Viz for the righties coming up after?
2007-04-19 12:29:42
241.   Sliced Bread
236 well, he scored anyway
2007-04-19 12:30:42
242.   bartap74
I like Cash, but if I had to choose a replacement, I'd love to see what Billy Beane could do with a big payroll.
2007-04-19 12:30:57
243.   Jim Dean
234 Just don't call people names here, and all will be good. If it happens to you, let it lie.

It's about the arguments, not the people making them.

2007-04-19 12:31:06
244.   Zack
This eternal Cashamn debate was boring, redundant, and pointless two months ago
2007-04-19 12:31:39
245.   Zack
243 Amen
2007-04-19 12:31:57
246.   Jim Dean
242 Or Terry Ryan.
2007-04-19 12:32:00
247.   Javi Javi
Why not walk Haffner?
2007-04-19 12:32:27
248.   Neil R
235

What makes you think Jackson, Montero, et.al were available? I've yet to come across any credible reports that they were. HOF pitcher with a back surgery at his age might not fetch that much.

2007-04-19 12:32:57
249.   Jim Dean
246 And he let Papi go (but more because of the money)
2007-04-19 12:33:00
250.   Mattpat11
243 His argument was that 3 + 12 + 18 + 4 = 49.

I felt the poster and the argument were one in the same. Apparently I was wrong.

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2007-04-19 12:33:19
251.   FingersCrossed
Damage control, Vizier!
And now a IBB. O-kay.
Hope this will work out in the end.
2007-04-19 12:33:53
252.   OldYanksFan
166 Because:
1) You and I don't know what the REAL alternatives were. Really Jim, do you think YOU know something that Cashman, in charge of the team of a billion dollar corporation doesn't? If you can say "Cashman should have gotten a better 1st baseman", don't you think it crossed Cashman mind? You really think Georhe hired someone stupid to run this team?

2) Minky has a career BA of .270. My guess is they figured he'd bat .250... and if his glove helped ARod, Jetes and Cano, it was worth it. He's not hitting .250. Neither is Melky. Should we dump Melky?

3) There may be trades/aquisitions still in 2007. Has Cashman shared with you what he's working on?

We have some savy, smart people here. We are here to express our opinions and concerns. But we are all backseat drivers, who have no responsibilities and can't see more then 2' in front of the windshield.

I don't like a LOT of Torre's moves.
I would like a better man on 1st.
I would like a better BUC.
I would like to nuzzle Pam Andersons breasts.

Baseball is a very, very, VERY random universe. Shitty ole Jeff Weaver helped a crappy team win the WS.

We ultimately won one WS because a fan reached into the playing field and interferred with a Jeter fly ball.

We lost one WS because the best athlete on our team, with the best and most accurate arm on our team, could not throw a ball from the pitchers mound to 2nd base accurately.

We lost a game that we may have won if Tony Clarks double didn't bound into the stands.

Ah Grasshopper... until we totally solve the nature of Chaos theory, I don't think we should state 'we would have won IF this one thing had happened', because if that one thing did happen, 5 other things may not have happened.

Baseball, like life, id mysterious and complex.

2007-04-19 12:35:05
253.   Shaun P
244 Great point, Zach. I'll shut up now. I should know better.
2007-04-19 12:35:10
254.   OldYanksFan
P.S. That was a very long diatribe that could have been shortened to:
I don't think we should be calling Torre or Cashman stupid.
2007-04-19 12:35:12
255.   ny2ca2dc
244 Amen
2007-04-19 12:35:31
256.   Jim Dean
248 You don't make the deal otherwise - he threw 400 average IP in two years. There was a place for that on this team.

Still, a team out west would have made a deal. I just don't think they explored it.

Why not Seattle? If they were going to sign Weaver for 10 million, they weren't going to trade Broussard for Unit?

2007-04-19 12:35:53
257.   bartap74
Fuck.
2007-04-19 12:36:11
258.   Jim Dean
And as we speak - Vizacaino!
2007-04-19 12:36:20
259.   Zack
Well, another infuriating, URP-type, trying for the sweep game...Yuck
2007-04-19 12:36:22
260.   OldYanksFan
Who's the STUPID guy who brought that pitcher here?
2007-04-19 12:36:23
261.   Cliff Corcoran
234 Thanks, Jim. That's exactly right. Stick to the facts, jack.

232 244 Amen.

2007-04-19 12:36:23
262.   pistolpete
Oh super.

Everyone in the pen decided to sh!t the bed today, I guess.

2007-04-19 12:36:38
263.   FingersCrossed
Victor Martinez just hit a 3 run homer.
I'm just glad that it wasn't walkoff. GRRRRRR....
2007-04-19 12:36:44
264.   ny2ca2dc
my god. viz doing his fanz impression.

this, with the sox win when they shoud'a lost, kinda stinkz....

2007-04-19 12:36:50
265.   Sliced Bread
fuggin gopher ball.

time to bust out the whuppin' sticks, Yanks.

2007-04-19 12:38:14
266.   Mattpat11
252 Bernie Williams has a .297 Batting average. We didn't sign him because the trend of his career was arcing downward. So is Mientkiewicz, who despite his big career "resurgence" in 2006, sucked. We just ignored that and jumped on the OMG LOOK WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR HES TURNED THE CORNER bandwagon that netted us such gems as Tony Womack, Kyle Farnsworth, Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright and so on and so forth.
2007-04-19 12:38:17
267.   rbj
Frak!
Fraking Frak frak.
2007-04-19 12:38:48
268.   Jim Dean
254 You also thought Cashman would make more moves. Is he stupid for not doing so, or are you for thinking he would?
2007-04-19 12:39:49
269.   FingersCrossed
Okay, come on, one more to go.
Let's go, Luis!
2007-04-19 12:39:56
270.   Simone
This definitely sucks.
2007-04-19 12:41:20
271.   Sliced Bread
Phelps is coming in for Doug Out, right? RIGHT?
2007-04-19 12:41:21
272.   Mattpat11
248 Yeah, I'm not really sure why we had to run Randy Johnson out of town either. It seemed we were trying to clear out the tampa moves (Johnson, Wright, Sheffield) while holding on to Cashmans bad moves (Pavano, Farnsworth) for all they're worth.
2007-04-19 12:41:43
273.   FingersCrossed
Nice K there. Finally!!
So we're 3 runs behind. It's surmountable, right? Right?
2007-04-19 12:41:59
274.   Shaun P
That's always been Vizcaino's problem, giving up the long ball.

Its not over yet - and Carmona is bound to be out of the game now. Let's not forget that Cleveland's pen was (and maybe still is) pretty awful.

2007-04-19 12:43:00
275.   Mattpat11
I'm still wondering who the hell convinced Cashman that Pavano was an innings eater. Or a pitcher that could be depended on for the league average.
2007-04-19 12:43:06
276.   FingersCrossed
271You speak for me.
Even if Phelps Ks, I'd suck it up.
2007-04-19 12:44:02
277.   ny2ca2dc
266 sigh. minky wasn't signed becasue they thought there was going to be some big turnaround in his hitting - he was signed, for 1.5 mil, to play great D, and hit a little, walk a little for a 350-ish OBP, and have no power. which is a pretty reasonable assumption.

NYYFans really is better for this type of trolling...

2007-04-19 12:44:30
278.   Sliced Bread
Yeah, Phelps!
2007-04-19 12:46:03
279.   Sliced Bread
C'mon Po!
2007-04-19 12:46:47
280.   Mattpat11
277 So he was signed to be bad?

How does this make the signing any better?

2007-04-19 12:47:10
281.   FingersCrossed
Okay, I'm sucking it up.
Let's go clutch JoPo!
2007-04-19 12:47:47
282.   JeremyM
I don't know why people are second-guessing the Johnson move, the guy hasn't thrown a pitch this season, was a big grouch in the clubhouse (which is fine if you're ERA is under 5.00), he cost a lot of money, and we got a few prospects out of the deal. Other than today, Vizcaino has been pretty good as well, although today is pretty bad.
2007-04-19 12:47:47
283.   claybeez
268 Below the belt insinuating that a member of this community is stupid. You need to get a grip.
2007-04-19 12:47:58
284.   Mattpat11
Eh. We won the series anyway.
2007-04-19 12:49:19
285.   Neil R
256.

248 "You don't make the deal otherwise - he threw 400 average IP in two years. There was a place for that on this team."

Well, provided he could come back healthy and early enough to make a difference. There were no guarantees of that. We're not talking about a 30 year old pitcher recovering from a disc surgery. I'd prefer a GM follows Branch Rickey's dictum IMHO.

"Still, a team out west would have made a deal. I just don't think they explored it."

I followed that trade very closely, and I've yet to come across any evidence of that. In fact, Sandy Alderson laughed at a reporter asking whether the rumor about RJ for Kouzmanoff was in fact true. As for the Dodgers, they'd signed Maddux and Schmidt. Why would they trade for a guy who possibly couldn't pitch in April AND give up good prospects?

"Why not Seattle? If they were going to sign Weaver for 10 million, they weren't going to trade Broussard for Unit."

Because RJ has a no-trade clause and could use it to demand an extension? The Yanks weren't going to trade RJ for Broussard. They could (and maybe they will in-season) give up some depth (a second tier RH pitcher) for him once they give up the idea that Minky can hit.

2007-04-19 12:50:08
286.   FingersCrossed
Sigh.....
No. No time to sigh. Gotta root more.
Let's go Yankees!!
Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap!
2007-04-19 12:50:16
287.   Jim Dean
See, I don't think it's rocket science.

The three games Wil Nieves started:

4/8: Score 4 runs - L 6-4 to B'more
4/14: Score 4 runs - W 4-3 Oak
4/19: Score 2 runs ???

2007-04-19 12:50:27
288.   Mattpat11
282 Who cares if hes a grouch? Did it hurt the phantom team chemistry? Maybe thats why we needed a first baseman that can't hit. Team chemistry. That seems to be what players that can't play well do. Scott Podsednik is a major leaguer due to "team chemistry" Bubba lasted forever due to "team chemistry"
2007-04-19 12:50:34
289.   ny2ca2dc
280 you're right, hughes, tabata, and the rest of the farm should've been traded for pujoles, so we wouldn't have a poor 1B. just becasue there's a large payroll doens't mean there's going to be an allstar at every position. such is baseball.
2007-04-19 12:51:28
290.   Sliced Bread
281 Even though Phelps took a weak hack there, at least Joe acknowledges that Josh can be a late innings offensive replacement for Mink.
2007-04-19 12:53:22
291.   FingersCrossed
Oh well, might as well let Farnsworth pitch.
Maybe he can tackle the batters...
Let's go Farnsworth. 1-2-3 inning. Let's go!
2007-04-19 12:54:42
292.   Mattpat11
289 Yes, that is in fact what I said. I asked for "pujoles"

You have defeated me.

2007-04-19 12:54:44
293.   JeremyM
282 I don't care if he's a grouch as long as he performs, which he didn't. Still don't see how trading him was a bad thing.
2007-04-19 12:55:29
294.   FingersCrossed
That stupid fan! Where's the pizza!!!
2007-04-19 12:56:59
295.   Mattpat11
282 Why do you care if hes a grouch period?
2007-04-19 12:57:43
296.   Jim Dean
285 And I followed that trade very closely too. They should have thrown in some money and gotten something they needed in return. Instead, Minky will play for a month straight.

The point is I think 272 is exactly right. Cashman used his newfound power to erase the Tampa moves. Since Pavano and Farns were "his" guys, he saw no reason to do the same.

Great, Suzyn is talking about this "Youtube" thing and the pizza clip. Brilliant!

2007-04-19 12:58:15
297.   Javi Javi
Suzyn Waldman, on the fenway Pizza story, "I was introduced to a thing called you tube, on internet the other day . . ."
2007-04-19 12:58:15
298.   Mattpat11
Farnsworth. Another fine signing that "turned the corner" and we had to jump on him.
2007-04-19 12:58:27
299.   Shaun P
A balk? (That's what Gameday '06 says at least.)
2007-04-19 12:58:39
300.   williamnyy23
295 After this game, I'm going to be a grouch. Going into the day, I expected to be tied with Boston, now it looks like we are headed into Fenway two games behind. Yuck.
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2007-04-19 12:59:18
301.   NJYankee41
Randy hasn't even pitched this year due to his bad back. So who knows if he is even going to be effective. As of now he would have been on the DL and not helping this current Yankee team. So the argument of haveing Randy is pointless.
2007-04-19 12:59:42
302.   FingersCrossed
Good job, Farnsworth.
2007-04-19 12:59:59
303.   ny2ca2dc
292 cute, nice attitude, thanks for joining the banter.

that's right, you don't have constructive, serious arguments, your arguments consist of "BUBBA!" or "WOMAK!" or "Minky can't hit!", cripe usually more suited for talk radio; as opposed to a level headed analysis of pros & cons. I can just smell the "how is there any pro to bubba!" coming... boring!

2007-04-19 13:00:10
304.   Zack
Im not so much concerned with the standings as the fact that this game is so much like so many frustrating going for the sweep games...oh well, tomorrow could change everything :)
2007-04-19 13:00:30
305.   Mattpat11
301 He traded Johnson and kept Pavano. Which player had the better chance of being effective?
2007-04-19 13:01:22
306.   tommyl
Mmmmm.....I am sensing an A-Rod 3 R HR :)
2007-04-19 13:02:24
307.   seamus
One comment on the debate. Cashman isn't a good GM or a bad GM based on a few good trades or a few good signings. All GMs have good and bad on their records. The only way to assess a GM is to look at their circumstances (ownership t- minors to control) and compare and contrast with other GMs. I don't really see that at all in this discussion which is why it seems so pointless to me.
2007-04-19 13:02:35
308.   FingersCrossed
299Yeah. He kinda 'waved' to JoPo with ball in hand.
2007-04-19 13:03:46
309.   NJYankee41
305 Who would have wanted Pavano? And thats as far as I'm gonna go with this cause its a lost cause arguing this.
2007-04-19 13:03:52
310.   Jim Dean
Mattpat11 is my new friend. And he's more energetic than me.

It's a terribly horrible discussion. But the only reason it comes up is because Minky continues to play.

289 I don't think anyone said anything about trading the farm to get a 1B. In one of the trades they made it should have been possbile - young 1B's are plentiful.

See, for instance, Chris Carter on Arizona's AAA team.

2007-04-19 13:04:11
311.   FingersCrossed
306 Take 1 run off, and you just might be right. Let's go Yankees! :D
2007-04-19 13:05:15
312.   ny2ca2dc
307 Amen
2007-04-19 13:06:20
313.   FingersCrossed
Abreu just looked like he stole a million right there.
2007-04-19 13:06:40
314.   williamnyy23
304 They just can't seem to get going...they win the first two in Minny and blow a lead to drop the third. They're one out from taking two in Oakland, but blow a lead. Now, they take two from Cleveland and drop another game with a late lead.

This inability to close out games and get on a roll worries me a little. It's also be nice if they could win a game without blowing the other team out.

2007-04-19 13:07:06
315.   Sliced Bread
Ahhhh-brayyouuuuuuuu!

works 3-2 count

strokes single...

rally time

2007-04-19 13:07:07
316.   FingersCrossed
Yay!!!! Not a million, but damned good enough! Let's go Yankees!!!
2007-04-19 13:10:37
317.   tommyl
314 Almost all teams are about dead even over a season in 1 and 2 run games. A couple of years ago the Nationals were in first place, primarily because they had won almost every 1-run game they had played. All the ESPN commentators mouthed on and on about Frank Robinson's great managing in close games, great bullpen etc. After the All-Star Break they crashed to earth because they lost enough of those games to basically get back to 50/50 in them overall. I'm not worried if the Yankees lose a few close games here and there, it'll tend to balance out in their favor with a pitcher like Mo in the pen.
2007-04-19 13:10:39
318.   Jim Dean
See, Mattpat11 best to just ignore the insults. Just keep banging away at the truth.

307 Except Cashman now has complete control. He's said as much. So that makes evaluating 2005 and 2006 very easy. Sure, he's not terrible and he's not spectacular - he's mediocre.

Me, I don't want to get rid of him - just don't want these utterly dumb moves.

Minky is indefensible. As is Cairo. As is Nieves.

Luckily only one plays everyday (now).

2007-04-19 13:11:57
319.   williamnyy23
They really needed a run there...Borowski would definitely have blown a closer game.
2007-04-19 13:12:05
320.   Chyll Will
303 (!) What the hell is a cripe? I asked my Uncle Woodrow what they were, considering that he exclaims it everytime something shocks him or confounds him. "Cripes!" He looked at me like I just handed him Jello made from lentil soup and said he didn't know. What is a cripe?
2007-04-19 13:13:24
321.   seamus
320 apparently is is a euphemism for Christ.
2007-04-19 13:13:48
322.   rbj
320 It's similar to a D'oh.

In other words, it don't mean a thing.

2007-04-19 13:15:26
323.   Jim Dean
305 This BTW is a great question.

Cliff, care to weight in? Given your utter contempt for Meat...

2007-04-19 13:15:31
324.   williamnyy23
I would have really liked to see Henn pitch the 7th, Viz the 8th and then hopefully Mo the 9th. It's mostly hindsight now, but I think Joe did this backwards.
2007-04-19 13:16:05
325.   NJYankee41
I'm sorry to be such an amateur, I'm new here, but can someone tell me how to link my response with someone's comment? Thanks
2007-04-19 13:16:54
326.   Jim Dean
325 put in [xxx]
2007-04-19 13:17:17
327.   rbj
325
It is left bracket [ then the number, then right bracket ]
2007-04-19 13:17:39
328.   Chyll Will
318 Uh-oh. JD has a protege or intern or something. This bears watching, good people... "I'll take the boy... Come with me child, and I'll teach you the ways of the herd(BLAM! Hunter drags carcass offscreen...)" - Family Guy, first season?
2007-04-19 13:17:52
329.   seamus
323 this is why this debate is so useless. It isn't a great question. It wasn't like Cashman got a call saying, "We'll give you x for Johnson or Pavano, your choice." Not at all.

There was no trade value for Pavano, and limited value for Johnson. The fact that Cashman got something back for Johnson is impressive. Trading isn't like ordering off of a menu at a restaurant.

2007-04-19 13:18:24
330.   NJYankee41
326 Thanks
327 Thanks as well
2007-04-19 13:19:11
331.   williamnyy23
323 Which player did other teams want more is a better question. The only team I heard that was interested in Pavano was Colorado, and they wanted the Yankees to pick up most of his contract.

You can't forget about the $ saved in evaluating the deal.

2007-04-19 13:19:28
332.   FingersCrossed
A DP please?
2007-04-19 13:19:36
333.   rbj
Time to head home from work and walk the dog.
2007-04-19 13:19:45
334.   Neil R
296. Jim Dean

"285 And I followed that trade very closely too. They should have thrown in some money and gotten something they needed in return. Instead, Minky will play for a month straight."

Well I don't think you'll get an argument about Minky from me, but do you have any evidence that the Yanks had an opportunity swap money for one of their blue chippers? I've yet to come across it. The only evidence of anything regarding (and that Conor Jackson rumor was nonsense as it was some blogger who came up with it via his "source.") The only (possibly)reliable source (meaning it was mentioned by more than one or sources) was the East Valley Tribune reporter who'd written that the Yanks had asked for Eveland but D-Backs countered with Owings and Ohlendorf. Small sample at this point, but if one has to quibble about the package, that's the one as Owings was highly regarded. However, that's a scout's call and Cashman (as well as Theo, Beane and probably Josh Byrnes and any number of sabermetrically inclined GM's) would be the first to admit that he isn't one.

"The point is I think 272 is exactly right. Cashman used his newfound power to erase the Tampa moves. Since Pavano and Farns were "his" guys, he saw no reason to do the same."

Perhaps, but that's a conjecture that I'd like to see backed up by some evidence.

2007-04-19 13:19:50
335.   ny2ca2dc
323 Maybe no one will take him for anything of value (or a cheese sandwitch). What a surprise.

I guess it's bullpen implosion day. they seem to collectivly have bad days, getting it all out at once.

2007-04-19 13:21:54
336.   Jim Dean
328 No, no - just the lad sees the world with the same set of truth glasses. I can appreciate that.

329 He got four players for Unit. I think one 1B and one BUC is not outside the lines of reason.

Pavano he held onto for too long. After 2005, he could have made a decent deal. This off-season someone would have bitten if he threw in cash. But he wasn't going to - Pavano is his guy.

2007-04-19 13:22:15
337.   NJYankee41
335 Thats what happens when Joe doesn't let the starters pitch past the 5th every night. The more you use a bullpen the greater the number of chances they hit a roadbump.
2007-04-19 13:23:53
338.   seamus
336 Putting aside the fact that you changed the question, which specific 1B and catcher did Arizona consider available for that trade?
2007-04-19 13:24:46
339.   Chyll Will
329 But Seamus, don't you remember that whole discussion that Sliced and I had a few weeks ago when the question of what Bob Lemon, who called certain players "Meat" would call Pavano? (now THAT was a great BTW from Alex...)

http://tinyurl.com/29bm5r

2007-04-19 13:25:38
340.   3rd gen yankee fan
Oh for pete's sake.
2007-04-19 13:25:47
341.   ny2ca2dc
336 Must be nice to have such intimate knowledge of Cashman's motives.

Wouldn't disagree with dumping post-05 though - but having small & chacon & wright lined up to play important roles might've had something to do with it (similar to now).

2007-04-19 13:26:34
342.   williamnyy23
Oh well...looks like we are back to .500. Cross your fingers:

Fri 4/20 @ Bos 7:05 YES (Pettitte v Schilling)
Sat 4/21 @ Bos 3:55 FOX (Karstens v Beckett)
Sun 4/22 @ Bos 8:05 ESPN (Wright v Matsuzaka)

2007-04-19 13:27:04
343.   Chyll Will
Ugh, I'm the slow one today. I'm famished, I need to eat. Peace!
2007-04-19 13:27:24
344.   FingersCrossed
YAWWWWWNNNN! Well, if Torre can do it...
2007-04-19 13:29:27
345.   Jim Dean
Wow, lot's of new names around here.

334 You're forgetting they needed Unit. Their starting rotation is:

Webb
Livan
Edgar Gonzalez
Doug Davis
Micah

Cashman jumped at the offer rather than negotiate a better one. If he really wanted a better 1B, he could have gotten one.

Unfortunately, he seems to fall into the "we can afford one bad hitter logic". He's done it in the past and he continues to.

2007-04-19 13:29:52
346.   williamnyy23
336 Pretty much nonsense across the board. Which BUC and 1B could the Yanks have gotten for Arizona? Considering he had absolutely no leverage, I think Cashman did well in the Johnson deal, especially when you factor in the cash savings. Like it or not, when you get near the $200mn level, even the Yankees have salary constraints.

As for Pavano, I'm sure teams were falling all over themselves to pick up an injury prone starter making $10mn over the next three seasons.

2007-04-19 13:30:38
347.   FingersCrossed
Hahahahaha, 3 outfielders colliding...
Dang, they caught the ball.
2007-04-19 13:34:27
348.   standuptriple
345 And you're assuming teams were fighting for an injured LHP who relies on his fastball coming off a horrible season.
2007-04-19 13:34:37
349.   FingersCrossed
Phelps hit a homerun!!!!!!
Yeah, ONLY 3 runs behind!!!!
2007-04-19 13:34:48
350.   ny2ca2dc
that might help the Phelps cause.
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2007-04-19 13:34:51
351.   OldYanksFan
One nail in Minky's coffin.
2007-04-19 13:35:07
352.   rsmith51
I was thinking that Phelps needed a hit or else it was more Minky.
2007-04-19 13:35:36
353.   Javi Javi
351 hopefully
2007-04-19 13:35:51
354.   Shaun P
Its not over yet!
2007-04-19 13:36:22
355.   NJYankee41
Maybe since it was off a RHP Torre will see Phelps is able to start games when a righty starts.
2007-04-19 13:36:22
356.   FingersCrossed
Yay!!! JoPo!!!
Let's go let's go!!!
2007-04-19 13:37:16
357.   3rd gen yankee fan
Gee wouldn't it be neat if the Yanks could pull out a win on Alex & Em's wedding day?
2007-04-19 13:37:21
358.   Shaun P
Gameday '06 just said "foul BUNT". WTF?!!?!?! There's two outs, Damon!
2007-04-19 13:37:55
359.   Jim Dean
346 See Arizona's starting rotation. To say "absolutely no leverage" shows a basic misunderstanding of the terms.

And me I'd take Chris Cater and Chris Snyder. One a AAA 1B and the other is going to be their B CU by the end of the year.

And hey look at that - Phelps has as many hits as Minky now - in half as many AB's.

Me, I just can't believe that the typical response to Minky is - "Well, what could they do?"

How about "Anything?"

2007-04-19 13:38:35
360.   rsmith51
Wow, the Indians have left 26 men on base. That is like 3 an inning. I realize they count multiple times, but still...
2007-04-19 13:39:07
361.   FingersCrossed
358I'm thinking his messing with the pitcher. Yay!!! Damon walks!!!
2007-04-19 13:39:22
362.   Jim Dean
348 They got four players for Unit. I'd say they were trying to get him.
2007-04-19 13:39:41
363.   FingersCrossed
Come on clutch Jeter!!!!!
Let's go let's go!!!
2007-04-19 13:39:46
364.   rsmith51
359 That puts in into perspective. Doesn't even count walks.
2007-04-19 13:40:17
365.   yankz
Webb, Livan, Davis, and Owings make for a better rotation than the Yankees' right now.

Yeah, the Yankees were supposed to get their AAA 1B and their backup catcher in a deal for a 59 year old who hasn't thrown a pitch this season. Because it's that easy.

2007-04-19 13:40:33
366.   FingersCrossed
Yayayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeter singles! JoPo scores!!!
Abreu up!
2007-04-19 13:41:27
367.   Simone
Now would be a good time for Bobby to find his power. Let's go, Bobby!
2007-04-19 13:42:33
368.   FingersCrossed
Clap clap clap clap clap!
Let's go Yankees! Let's go Yankees!
2007-04-19 13:42:46
369.   yankz
Two things to remember from this game:

1) The Yanks took 2/3 from the sexy pick to win the AL, starting 3 rookie pitchers.
2) Arod is still a machine. Carmona has owned him in all their matchups.

2007-04-19 13:43:11
370.   FingersCrossed
Abreu singles!!!! Jeter scores!!!!!!
6-5 Arod up!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's go!@!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-19 13:43:25
371.   NJYankee41
Like A-Rod says, it always comes down to him
2007-04-19 13:43:30
372.   ny2ca2dc
holy shit
2007-04-19 13:43:38
373.   Javi Javi
Holy crap!!! Arod in clutch spot!!
2007-04-19 13:43:41
374.   claybeez
Win or lose you gotta love the effort, the never say quit.

Yes, I do hope the Yanks win.

2007-04-19 13:43:45
375.   FingersCrossed
Clap clap clap clap clap!!!!
Let's go Arod! Let's go Arod!!!
2007-04-19 13:43:47
376.   Simone
Yeah, Bobby! You can do it, Alex!
2007-04-19 13:44:07
377.   OldYanksFan
"It always comes down to me. Some how... no matter what, it always comes down to me"
2007-04-19 13:44:13
378.   claybeez
Yikes. Now, they can walk him.
2007-04-19 13:44:25
379.   FingersCrossed
Wild pitch!
Our guys advance to 2nd and 3rd!!
Let's go! Let's go!
2007-04-19 13:44:33
380.   ny2ca2dc
solid single would be fine here....
2007-04-19 13:44:43
381.   NJYankee41
OMG!!!!!!!
2007-04-19 13:44:48
382.   rsmith51
No freaking way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-19 13:44:52
383.   Jim Dean
365 Instead they get a ML RHRP, two AA starting pitchers, and a AAA SS.

Nah, a AAA 1B and a BUC was impossible.

2007-04-19 13:44:54
384.   FingersCrossed
Arod goes yard!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
3 run walkoff!!!!!!!!!1
2007-04-19 13:45:05
385.   Jim Dean
Arod!!!!
2007-04-19 13:45:08
386.   claybeez
No F'ing way! Amazin'!
2007-04-19 13:45:09
387.   Javi Javi
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARrrrrrrraaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-19 13:45:09
388.   NJYankee41
This is just silly!!!
2007-04-19 13:45:15
389.   ny2ca2dc
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

OMFG

2007-04-19 13:45:16
390.   bartap74
OMG!!!!!!!
2007-04-19 13:45:17
391.   Simone
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-19 13:45:19
392.   BklynBmr
Wow.
2007-04-19 13:45:27
393.   rsmith51
I was thinking that I would pitch to Giambi here, but that is just me.
2007-04-19 13:45:29
394.   yankz
Um...
2007-04-19 13:45:37
395.   FingersCrossed
Yayayayay!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clap clap clap clap clap!!!!!!!
A-rod! A-rod! A-rod!!
2007-04-19 13:45:38
396.   Javi Javi
Oh my god. This is Arod's year!!!!
2007-04-19 13:45:39
397.   OldYanksFan
Nononononononononononononononononononono!
I
CAN'T
FUCKING
BELIEVE
IT
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-19 13:45:59
398.   Simone
F'ing A! I love it!!! Alex is the hero again.

The Yankees win!!!!! The Yankees win!!!!!

2007-04-19 13:46:00
399.   AbbyNormal821
HOLY CRAP, I can't see the game - did A-Rod do it again?????? Wha happened!???
2007-04-19 13:46:02
400.   Jim Dean
Meanwhile, if Minky was in the game they would have lost.

Think about that tonight Teaman!

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2007-04-19 13:46:17
401.   thelarmis
oh my friggin' god!!!

this shit is story book!!!

2007-04-19 13:46:21
402.   ny2ca2dc
MVP chants can start now
2007-04-19 13:46:26
403.   NJYankee41
Screw all the boo-birds from last year!
2007-04-19 13:46:27
404.   claybeez
383 Enjoy the games for sec.
2007-04-19 13:46:27
405.   yankz
Unfuckingreal.
2007-04-19 13:46:30
406.   rsmith51
Play Phelps and good things happen.
2007-04-19 13:46:52
407.   yankz
I heart Arod.
2007-04-19 13:46:52
408.   Javi Javi
Who is clutch now, Beatch?
2007-04-19 13:47:27
409.   rsmith51
Happy Wedding Day, Alex and Emily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-04-19 13:47:43
410.   claybeez
399 Yard, baby. Alex went Yard. Again. Yankees win!
2007-04-19 13:47:56
411.   FingersCrossed
Man! Can you believe this!!
2 out clutch Arod walkoff homer!
(Dance! Dance! Dance!)
2007-04-19 13:48:00
412.   Neil R
345

Uh, leverage works both ways or possibly two vs one. RJ wasn't going to pitch in April and possibly May while collecting his full salary not mention his disc surgery and knees that have been described as "bone on bone." RJ played hardball WITH the D-Backs even after the trade was agreed in principle (demanding an extension). What makes you think he'd have made things easier for anyone? The Yanks were lucky to dump him when they lacked leverage.

2007-04-19 13:48:01
413.   Zack
Holy crap did that really happen? I checked in to see Abreu's at bat, then tried to get mlb.tv up again, and by the time I did, its over! He's unreal!!!!
2007-04-19 13:48:07
414.   tommyl
306 I was a couple of innings too early.
2007-04-19 13:48:09
415.   yankz
From the CBS 'glog': "10 bucks says arod chokes"

From this tool:
http://cbs.sportsline.com/mcc/authors/author/47951

Why does his silhouette have no neck?

2007-04-19 13:48:11
416.   AbbyNormal821
408 LOL!
2007-04-19 13:48:12
417.   mehmattski
I'd like to take credit for this win. I left work early and came back to turn on the game at the start of the bottom of the ninth. You guys are welcome.
2007-04-19 13:48:38
418.   3rd gen yankee fan
WOW
2007-04-19 13:48:55
419.   claybeez
409 What a gift from the Yanks. Must have registered for it. We shoulda none.
2007-04-19 13:49:09
420.   Simone
ESPN just showed Alex's home run!!!
2007-04-19 13:49:25
421.   yankz
Alex will never forget what happened on his Wedding Day!
2007-04-19 13:49:55
422.   Javi Javi
Arod to Waldman--"somehow it always ends up with me" too funny.
2007-04-19 13:51:08
423.   Simone
421 I hope not and I'm not talking about the walk off home run. LOL!
2007-04-19 13:51:23
424.   tommyl
Where'd he hit it to? On what count?
2007-04-19 13:51:37
425.   Neil R
What a finish. I am stunned.
2007-04-19 13:52:36
426.   mehmattski
424 0-1 count? Hit it to just right of dead center field, had to be at least 430 feet. A-Rod knew right away.
2007-04-19 13:53:01
427.   Zack
Re-freaking-donculous
2007-04-19 13:53:11
428.   pistolpete
Holy schnikes - I walk away from my desk going into the bottom of the ninth and it's 6-2.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!

2007-04-19 13:53:27
429.   FingersCrossed
Everybody posting here, please have more trade talks and Cashman debate next time we play please. It's working wonders! :D
Ah, we win. The Yankees win! :D
What a comeback! I'm so happy!
2007-04-19 13:54:03
430.   yankz
That was so freaking magic. I am so in love with baseball and the Yankees.
2007-04-19 13:54:05
431.   Yankee Fan In Boston
insanity.

beautiful, unbelievable insanity.

2007-04-19 13:54:10
432.   standuptriple
A-Rod. Always piling on. He didn't have to score that extra run.
I imagine that broom-ride up to Boston will be interesting.
2007-04-19 13:54:47
433.   yankz
Guys, the Yankees just swept a solid team in a series where they started 3 rookies.
2007-04-19 13:55:01
434.   JeremyM
Holy crap, did I pick the wrong time to mow the lawn!!! I thought A-Rod's little hit streak was over, game in the toilet....WRONG!
2007-04-19 13:55:06
435.   Emma Span
HOLY CRAP! My Tivo just caught up with reality! I'm not nearly coherent enough to write this recap right now. I NEVER thought they were coming back from that one... wow.
2007-04-19 13:55:33
436.   Zack
Clearly the gods are telling me I ned to watfch less Yankee games and do more writing...
2007-04-19 13:55:45
437.   Yankee Fan In Boston
432 yeah... he made that error just so that the indians' lead would be bigger... so that he would get that last at bat.

...show off.

2007-04-19 13:56:17
438.   yanster
This is retarded. I'm so happy I can't stop walking around in circles - we must all be insane.

And 422, you are right on - still how can you doubt him now. It really did come down to him.

2007-04-19 13:56:35
439.   NJYankee41
To get back to the Cashman stuff.... he better do whatever it takes to keep A-Rod after this year. Once in a lifetime player!
2007-04-19 13:57:35
440.   Zack
Was that Sean Henn's first career win as well?
2007-04-19 13:58:06
441.   NJYankee41
440 Yup
2007-04-19 13:59:15
442.   BklynBmr
430 You said it. Magic! It was a little early in the season to be hoping the 'ghosts' showed up, by no doubt they were today. Thanks, Babe, Clipper, Mick, et al... oh, yeah, and the third baseman, too ;-)

Nice head of steam to roll up on Beantown with. I can't wait...

2007-04-19 13:59:24
443.   Zack
Ergo, three days, three rookie wins!
2007-04-19 14:00:28
444.   JeremyM
Isn't it funny that the pinch-hitters rolled around for a 2nd at-bat and got the rally started?
2007-04-19 14:00:29
445.   NetShrine
Quick, someone call Alex Belth and scream into the phone "You missed the greatest game - ever!"
2007-04-19 14:01:25
446.   OldYanksFan
2 Out. Down by 4. ARod cold.
This has to be a historical comeback.
I still CAN'T believe it.
It's too much.
Unreal.
I can't believe it!
I am gonna watch EVERY SPORTS NEWS show tonight!
2007-04-19 14:02:04
447.   rsmith51
So who here would have intentionally walked ARod? I don't think I would have, but I wouldn't have given him any strikes to hit either...
2007-04-19 14:02:47
448.   Zack
I love love love that that rally was started by Phelps too...its like the gods are hitting Torre over the head with it...
2007-04-19 14:03:29
449.   OldYanksFan
I still CAN'T believe it.
I still CAN'T believe it.
I still CAN'T believe it.
2007-04-19 14:03:35
450.   rsmith51
448 Maybe Minky will talk to Torre...
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2007-04-19 14:05:06
451.   Shaun P
WOO HOO!!!!

I'm sure its been said, but someone called a 3 run A-Rod HR. Well done, whoever it was!

Happy wedding day, Alex and Emily!!!

2007-04-19 14:05:23
452.   yankz
Did they boo the error? Also, can someone please describe the crowd, before, during, and after the at-bat? I'm pissed I couldn't watch, but I want to envision everything.
2007-04-19 14:06:28
453.   Javi Javi
446 I am so buzzed by this ending that I am sitting here listening to Sterling's highlight recap, just so I can hear the rally again.
2007-04-19 14:06:45
454.   3rd gen yankee fan
445 LMAO!!!
2007-04-19 14:07:29
455.   Emma Span
447 I SAID they should walk A-Rod! Unfortunately I said it to my dog, so I have no witnesses. I also sat on the floor and started referring to her as a "rally dog".
2007-04-19 14:10:03
456.   Jon Weisman
Can someone tell me the Yankee record for homers in a month?
2007-04-19 14:11:18
457.   rsmith51
456 sammy had 21. I believe.
2007-04-19 14:11:54
458.   rsmith51
not for the yankees, though.
2007-04-19 14:12:31
459.   BklynBmr
453 Exactly what I'm doing! I couldn't miss his call on the walk off. That was an exceptionally amped call! I love it...
2007-04-19 14:12:40
460.   wsporter
I could be wrong but this A-Rod guy may actually be pretty good.
2007-04-19 14:15:42
461.   Shaun P
Oh to be near a TV right now! Or my car and its XM radio.

I can't wait to get home and watch SportsCenter!

460 MFD, I think you're on to something there. ;) Good to see you!

2007-04-19 14:16:43
462.   BklynBmr
No matter what you think of the term 'chemistry', this team sounds like they're getting some...
2007-04-19 14:16:47
463.   Chyll Will
WTF??? Did I utter the magic words or something?? "I'm famished, Peace Out???"

Um, can we finally all agree that A-Rod is a True Yankee™ now?

2007-04-19 14:17:03
464.   kylepetterson
I'm pretty sure that Superman wears A-Rod pajamas.
2007-04-19 14:19:17
465.   Jon Weisman
457 - yeah, I mean for the Yankees.
2007-04-19 14:19:37
466.   3rd gen yankee fan
Suzyn's clubhouse report: Torre said he was glad Phelps started the rally... Arod thought Abreu was going to win the game... Torre said once Posada got on he was sure it was going to happen... Arod's having fun even after bad at-bats... Andy P told Arod that he better get ready (down two outs), because he's seen this situation before (wow)... Damon said he knew when he walked... they're all giddy like they won a playoff game
2007-04-19 14:20:03
467.   Zack
464 Now if you had said Chuck Norris, then I would REALLY be impressed
2007-04-19 14:20:03
468.   Chyll Will
Waldman said on WCBS:

"As the rally was going on, Andy Pettitte turned to A-Rod and said, 'You'd better get ready, because you're gonna win the game for us; I've seen this before..."

Andy "Guru" Pettitte, The Freshmaker!

2007-04-19 14:21:28
469.   Chyll Will
466 Jinx! You owe me a root beer...
2007-04-19 14:21:44
470.   Bama Yankee
Chuck Norris has started to refer to himself as "C-Nor" so he could be more like Alex Rodriguez...
2007-04-19 14:22:18
471.   kylepetterson
467 Chuck Norris wears Jack Bauer PJ's.
2007-04-19 14:23:43
472.   Chyll Will
460 Good to see you back, Sport. I know you had something to do with this, I just know it!
2007-04-19 14:24:56
473.   Zack
A-Rod counted to infinity - Thrice...
2007-04-19 14:26:28
474.   Zack
Jack Bauer changed his show from 24 to 13 so he could be more like A-Rod...
2007-04-19 14:28:01
475.   3rd gen yankee fan
469 Anytime, bro.
2007-04-19 14:28:29
476.   mehmattski
465 Babe Ruth hit 17 in September 1927.

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/history/season_records.jsp

2007-04-19 14:28:32
477.   Bama Yankee
A-Rod knows who Karim Garcia is...
2007-04-19 14:28:35
478.   Chyll Will
C-Nor stole A-Rod's PJs for J-Bau on 24. Saw it on YouTube.
2007-04-19 14:28:39
479.   kylepetterson
473 I heard that A-Rod no longer hits homeruns. Baseballs are just so afraid of him and his bat that they defy physics, change directions, and run as far away from him as they can.
2007-04-19 14:30:09
480.   kylepetterson
477 hahahahaha
2007-04-19 14:32:53
481.   Chyll Will
477 Okay, I can't top that today >|D
2007-04-19 14:36:40
482.   Zack
477 Damn good, 479 also mighty fine...And not so far from the truth it seems
2007-04-19 14:38:30
483.   nemecizer
My mother always told me, deep down inside, I am a bit of an asshole.

Guess what, Mom, YOU WERE RIGHT!

This is for the record.

Here is an email I sent to a Tribe fan who predicted they would spank the Yankees this year:

------8<--------

Greetings from the Bronx.

This is a note to tell you that YOU SUCK!!!

You faced a team with 3 starting pitchers on the DL, and you lost.

You faced a team that started a pitcher who never pitched above AA, and you lost 10-3.

You faced a team with a questionable Japanese import who was pitching only his third game in the majors, and you lost 9-2.

You faced a team putting up a third-string pitcher who has started less than 5 games in the majors, and you lost 8-6, with 6 of those runs coming in the bottom of the 9th, including a 3-run walk off home run to give A-Rod his 10th long ball in only 14 starts.

You were out-hit 36-20.

You were out-scored 27-11.

You more than doubled your team ERA in 3 games.

You came with a 6-3 record, and left with a 6-6 record.

NEXT TIME YOU COME TO THE BRONX, BRING A PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL TEAM, NOT THE PACK OF BITCHES YOU HAD THIS TIME!!!!

SWEEP!!!!!

KISS THE BROOM, BYOTCH.

KISS IT LIKE IT'S YOUR OWN MOTHER.

--------8<------

I included a large jpeg of a broom.

I am like a school in winter: all class.

2007-04-19 14:42:14
484.   Mattpat11
Well, I'm back and I heard th good news in the store. I think regardless of what we said earlier, we can all be happy Cashman kept A-Rod
2007-04-19 14:45:10
485.   3rd gen yankee fan
I almost feel bad for the Injuns fans though. I was just over on letsgotribe. One guy said that they should have scored more than six runs, then he doubted even the Yankees wouldn't have been able to come back.

If teams are feeling like they need to score more than six runs to beat us... I think we've got it made.

2007-04-19 14:45:11
486.   rsmith51
483 Before you get too ahead of yourself, remember that the Yanks DOMINATED the Tigers last year in the regular season.
2007-04-19 14:52:18
487.   rbj
Gol-dam!

I may have to have a new habit of walking the dog when the Yanks are down & it's late.

2007-04-19 14:53:43
488.   Jon Weisman
476 - Thanks.
2007-04-19 14:58:20
489.   Bluebleeder87
Congratulations Alex & Emily may you & Emily live a long & happy marriage.
2007-04-19 15:32:53
490.   vockins
For once, I can say "I was there." Well, I was there for Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS, but I won't go into that.

Holy crap, that was insane.

As far as I heard from Tier 4, no one booed Alex for the entire game. They certainly didn't boo him in the bottom of the ninth.

Joe Borowski is on my fantasy team. Whatever.

GOLDEN RULE OF BASEBALL FANDOM: ALWAYS STAY UNTIL THE LAST OUT.

So insane.

2007-04-19 15:37:52
491.   Schteeve
462 And isn't it funny that the chemistry seems to appear when the results are good?

Mmmmkay?

2007-04-19 16:00:28
492.   OldYanksFan
Video Highlights of the 9th inning and the A-Bomb!
http://tinyurl.com/2fxa7a
2007-04-19 16:03:38
493.   LI yankee
490

Unfortunately, I broke that rule. Closed the MLBtv window after the top of the 9th.

*sigh

2007-04-19 16:14:25
494.   nemecizer
486 As always, you are correct sir.

But that doesn't need to stop a good ole fashion gloat! The beauty of a good gloat is in its transitoriness (or is that transitoryality?). One enjoys it for the moment, and then moves on.

Moments like today linger all to little. Tomorrow is another series and another day.

What a beautiful game.

2007-04-19 16:18:54
495.   OldYanksFan
2 Out. Down by 4. ARod cold. Bottom of the order up.
This has to be a historical comeback.
I still CAN'T believe it.
It's too much.
Unreal.
..........
This one is going to be hard to top, yes?
2007-04-19 16:33:08
496.   rbj
495 YES!
BBTN will be fun tonight. I hear they're going to have Steve Philips on, with a huge plate of crow. No dessert 'til you finish your crow, Steve.
2007-04-19 17:54:12
497.   OldYanksFan
I. CAN'T. GET. ENOUGH.
Yankees' newest video: 'A-Rod Gone Wild!'
http://tinyurl.com/2tblmn
2007-04-19 20:15:29
498.   Saburo
Belated congrats and fond aloha to the newlyweds!

All the best!

2007-04-19 22:53:07
499.   Chyll Will
One word: wowzers...

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