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Ed Price reports that the Yankees and Diamondbacks are talking turkey about sending Randy Johnson back to Arizona. ESPN the Magazine confirms the rumor. Ho Ho Ho.
I actually think this deal could make sense. The D-backs need starting pitching, and a big-name star to get buns in the seats. The fans remember Randy, and they'll turn out in hopes of seeing him get his 300th win. He still lives there, and he wants to go back. He's got a ring. He's playing for stats and money now, and if he can get that in Arizona instead of New York, he'd jump at the chance.
And the Yankees would be happy to be free of RJ and his huge salary. I don't know who they'll sign in his place, but they'll be able to get someone, with the money freed up.
I like losing his salary, but that's secondary. It's still a loss for our rotation.
There's also talk that the Padres and Scott Linebrink are involved. Maybe get Linebrink for tradebait...or keep him, and trade Proctor?
Dunno what this means for the starting rotation. Pavano? Or will they try to acquire Zito or some other free agent?
Do it .... now!
Unless you believe Byrnes had his career year in '06.
But I'm still not a fan of Gonzo for Melky. Melk will be worth more in June or next winter.
If the buzz is legit, I say do it. The odds of Johnson returning to '04 form are long. To those who say 'hey, we're turning away 17 wins and 200+ innings' it's no lock that will happen again. Randy is on the downslide and never bet against the streak. Most of the time you'll be right, Dan Duquette excluded.
No one expected Wang's success last year (who coulda/shoulda had 20+ wins and a Cy). If this lineup stays healthy and rakes 3/4 to expectations, those 17 wins can be replaced by a collective patchwork of arms, let alone one of the youngsters stepping up.
If the Unit goes, we'll need a starter more than a reliever which presents the following possibility:
a) Randy for (whatever + Brynes)
b) we sign Zito (w/Unit's salary for 1 year at least ;=(
c) the Melky for Gonzo deal is figured out
d) Brynes is the 4th OF and Bernie is done
Not sure how Linebrink or San Diego figures into this, but dayum just dreaming here if we could unload Johnson and Pavano in one fell swoop, the Ca$hman monument needs to be commissioned pronto.
Personally, I'm not sure about Zito. He'll handle New York OK, that's not what I'm worried about. I just think the NL would be his best move, not the AL East of all places. IMHO, Zito would be a good number 2 or 3 on the Yanks, but that ain't happening for the jack and years it will take to sign him.
Next week or so should be interesting...
I just hope we can re-sign The Melkman in two or three years ;-)
And while Unit is more Useless than Unit, he is still a LH SP in a year that got Lily 4/40. Byrnes.... he of career OPS of .771?
Surely we can do better then that. The Mets could use Unit and would offer more.
I agree with the sentiment that if RJ has to go, I want more than Eric Byrnes for him.
Plus there's that whole return of the king thing. Kind of like we're all excited to get Pettitte back, even though we sort of suspect his best years are behind him.
And it's more than just a rumor now. MLB.com has an article up, with people speaking on the record and everything.
However, the D-backs say that so far, they haven't found a match.
Bucco Blog is reporting that Mike Gonzalez Bobblehead Day has been taken off the schedule, and replaced with TBA.
But, if the Yankees can use this money to acquire another pitcher, then I'm sold--either Clemens or yes, the overrated Zito.
What you say makes sense about why the D'Backs need The Unit, plus the PR damage they need to undo with their clumsy release of Luis Gonzalez, as has been reported.
If we get Brynes (and a prospect), and AZ picks up Johnson's remaing contract, how can you not do this deal?
If that's the case, I say yes emphatically. I'm actually looking at this SP with some comfort:
Wang, Mussina, Pettitte, Pavano, Igawa, Rasner, Karstens with mid-season callups for Sanchez and Hughes a distinct possibility.
Adding RJ to that just assures me that he will go out there every fifth day even if he's just as bad as he was last year. Let's face it -- RJ wants his 300 and the Yankees can't afford to leave him in to suck while getting it. The D'backs, on the other hand, will be happy to let him do it. Plus, he likes the hot weather and he can go back to facing eight NL hitters.
Makes a boatload of sense to me if we get Byrnes and prospects.
yeah, if we have byrnes, melky is gone and mike g. is in. with all these power arms stocked up in the pen, anyone think ca$h tries to move Farnstantinople and his hefty contract?
if we're rid of unit, glass carl and farnsy, cash is da man! rotation would start with wang, moose, andy, igawa and a karstens/rasner crapshoot. possibly clemens or phil 'the future' hughes mid-year...
And Zito has been making it pretty clear that he wants to play for the Yanks, and would make some salary concessions to do so.
Isn't this how teams end up saddled with players like, oh i don't know, Pavano?
Not that I particularly want him, but I wouldn't complain in the slightest (well, I would if the deal were over 5 years) if Zito were to become a Yankee.
zito would probably be fine as far as pitching in NY goes. i just don't wanna give crazy amounts of cash and years to a #3 or 4 pitcher, who tallied, what - 99 walks last year.
i'll have to be down w/ whatever cash does. i'd miss melky, but not miss the eunuch. if we got byrnes, i'm a huge fan of the 20-20 club, not that he'd get the opportunity to play enough to get there...
good lord, i'm flapping. sorry, brain is elsewhere at the moment...
Though if the starting rotation isn't working out, they may consider signing him for half a year.
Zito's worst record over the past 3 years is against the Yankees and the Red Sox (both ERAs over 6). That being said, his ERA was under 4 last year, and he's young. I'd definately welcome him on the team, just as long as he can live comfortably as a Yankee. Hopefully having Damon on the team will help him adjust.
I'm all for trading Randy, but we need to get something for him besides Byrnes. Like someone above said, Montero (catcher) would be fantastic (John Sickels gives him a B+). I also heard about Micah Owings, who would also be very good (rated a B by Sickels). Hopefully a bidding war between the Padres and DBacks will get us a bit more. Part of me hopes that the Padres will get him and that we trade for Linebrink so that we don't have to trade Melky for Gonzo, though Gonzo (assuming healthy) would be a great addition to the bullpen.
8 ESPN's Park Factors seem screwed up. If anyone has a link to Park Factors, please post it. Best I can tell, Arizona has a HR factor of 1.25 or so. If you consider the Yankee HR factor for RH hitters (to Left Field), my guess is the HR factor is under 0.90. Byrnes will NOT be a HR hitter as a Yankee... and has historically POOR offensive numbers (0.771 OPS career) for a corner OF'er. I'd MUCH rather have Melky then Byrnes.
18 Historically, the odds of prospects becoming MLB impact players is EXTREMELY low. Just a prospect (or 2) is worthless, unless they are a very highly rated prospect.
Remember: Lily 4/40. Meche 5/55. As much as WE want to dump RJ, with only a 1 years contract and being a Lefty, and being Randy... he still has value.
20 Absolutely. Another contract for 5/90!!!! It's RJ/K.Brown all over again. Hopefully an impact pitcher for the short term, probably a buttplug for the long term. Just say NO to ANY long term contracts with Pitchers.
22 Agreed. Cashman is sneaky smart. He is the living persona of 'The Yanks don't NEED anyone... and will still win' and other GMs should be honored just to be considered by him. He is the Anti-Steinbrenner, I love it!
27 Yes... Zito is still good, but so were RJ and K.Brown. There are too many good pitchers becoming FA's over the next 2 years to invest longterm in any pitcher not named Santana.
34 Don't know if it's happening, but we only NEED a good Roger for Aug/Sept and OCTOBER.
36 This is true... but NOT for 5/6 years and 100mil. We WILL be crying in 2009 or so.
Cashman must keep us the Yoga Yankees. Powerful but very flexible.
I believe our bad pitching contracts of 2005 cost us Beltran. If we invest 100mil in Zito, who will that cost us in 2008 or 2009?
39 You're probably right about Beltran. Thank you Pavano, Wright & Womack... However, IMO, they could've gotten by with season with Lofton in CF, but it seems he was buried for whatever reason. But hey, what's done is done.
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