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Wright Away
2006-11-12 09:34
by Alex Belth

According to the Baltimore Sun, the Yankees have traded Jaret Wright and cash to the O's for relief pitcher Chris Britton:

Britton, a 23-year-old right-hander who was the Orioles' eighth-round selection in the 2001 draft, was possibly the team's second-best reliever as a rookie this past season behind closer Chris Ray . Britton was 0-2 with a 3.35 ERA and one save in 52 games.

However, team officials were concerned about Britton's lack of command of a second pitch behind his fastball, and they also were worried about ongoing conditioning problems.

The Yanks have traded two veterans this week for young arms. This is what everyone has been asking for, right?

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2006-11-12 09:52:28
1.   rbj
Yup. Me likey.
2006-11-12 10:00:55
2.   wsporter
Well, in so far as everyone's asking for the "right" veterans to be traded anyway.

It's a good start. No?

2006-11-12 10:09:55
3.   SF Yanks
Sheff deal, I like. This one, eh. Don't know if Britton is going to cut it. Just have one of those feelings.
2006-11-12 10:31:07
4.   Bags
Wow. MLB.com says Britton is 6'3", 280 lbs.

280? Is that a typo? That is huge. He actually looks a lot like Wright. (But bigger.)

2006-11-12 10:55:02
5.   BklynBmr
4 If nothing else, with Bruney, Franswacker and Britton, this is one bullpen you want on your side in a bar fight. That's one big boy. Here's his mug shot:

http://tinyurl.com/yfqzz2

I'm not that familiar with Britton, but I absolutley love where Cash is going with all this — Sheff, and now Wright.

Younger. Meaner. Leaner. (payroll, not waistlines in this case)...

2006-11-12 10:55:05
6.   monkeypants
How much money? That is a key to how good this deal is. Even though it's not much, if the team ends up spending less than 7 million total, then it works out preety good. If, however, they end up paying for all of Wright, I am not sure it is that worth getting rid of him.

Unless, of course, Cashman has a plan for the back end of the rotation. If he has targetted some free agent, or better yet, if they are committed to using some AAA talent (can Karstens or whomever really be that much worse than the Wright, et al), then it is correct to keep Wright from cluttering up the rotation/BP.

2006-11-12 11:32:37
7.   joejoejoe
I say re-sign Ponson. Let's corner the market on fat pitchers. Is Bobby Jenks available?
2006-11-12 11:37:30
8.   wsporter
I wonder if this means Lilly and or Meche are seen as reasonable replacements. I wouldn't squawk if we got Lilly back. Although I liked the Weaver deal when it went down (I'm a moron) I didn't like moving Lilly. He averages about 6 innings per start so that's pretty Wright-like and he's about the same age but he is a lefty. He is what he is at this stage of his career I guess.

We have Wang and a whole lot-a-nothing beyond Unit right now. I'll assume Moose will be signed for 2 years and that Unit's long, long, long, 300 year old back will be okay and that some approximation of a front of the rotation starter will be signed. I might sign one of those two above for depth if either can be had but I would give the kids a really good long look. I'm not sure what I'd give Pavano.

I'm really curious to see what Ca$hman has up his sleeve. He sure is collecting some pitchers and I don't get the feeling he's hording them only so he can show them off at the next Minor League Complex barbeque.

2006-11-12 11:40:03
9.   wsporter
6 Momkey P, among others the AP says that it's the $4 million option that they agreed to pay.
2006-11-12 11:57:12
10.   brockdc
4 He looks like he ate Wright.
2006-11-12 12:42:29
11.   jakewoods
I really like what Cash is doing so far but he's going to need to upgrade that rotation and fast.

Be interesting to see what direction he goes. Does he go for Meche and Lilly. Two guys with upside. Take a chance.

Needs a lefty in the pen. How about Jamie Walker? Pitched real well for the Tigers.

2006-11-12 12:44:32
12.   David
This deal is too good. They're both righties. Britton is younger, cheaper, signed for a longer period, had an ERA of 3.35 vs. Wright's 4.49. [One should add something to Britton's ERA (0.5?) for an NL pitcher moving to the AL. Even with that adjustment, Britton's ERA is still a whole lot better than Wright's.]

The only aspect I can see favoring Wright is that he's a starter.

The deal seems like a steal. Why did the O's agree to it? Do the Orioles know something bad about Britton? Are the Orioles confident that they can help Wright return to his 2004 form, when he was 15-8, 3.38?

2006-11-12 12:44:33
13.   seamus
11 not fast. just by february.
2006-11-12 12:47:04
14.   jakewoods
a starter who goes 170 ip+ is more value to a team like the orioles than an 8th inning guy. maybe they had questions about his conditioning.

another young power arm. i like it.

2006-11-12 12:49:30
15.   wsporter
12 "One should add something to Britton's ERA (0.5?) for an NL pitcher moving to the AL."

Hello, when did the O's move to the NL? Over thinking that one? :-)

2006-11-12 13:19:30
16.   monkeypants
9 Yeah, I saw that. But are the Os paying his base salary of 3 million? If so, then the Yanks are payin 'only' 4 million for Wright this year. Or do the Yankees pick up the 3 million contract AND the 4 million option?
2006-11-12 13:30:37
17.   pistolpete
Is everyone forgetting the Mazzone factor?

He's the guy who brought Wright back to form a few years ago, and now he has him again. Watch for Wright to frustrate the hell out of us by going 8 innings with 3H and 1ER a couple of times in 2007...

2006-11-12 13:38:59
18.   wsporter
16 It's a $7 million 2007 salary for Wright which was triggered when the Yankees picked up his option. The Yankees are paying $4 million of that which would have been the amount they owed Wright if they bought him out instead of picking up the option. That leaves $3 million that the O's are paying.

Yankees total payment is $4 million which is what they would have paid to buy Wright out. This way they make the same payment and they get Britton. Nice work in my book.

2006-11-12 13:51:32
19.   monkeypants
18 makes sense. Nice deal. As for the Mazzone Factor 17, whatever magic power he has will work on any crappy pitcher, Wright or otherwise.
2006-11-12 13:52:36
20.   jakewoods
mazzone is a real genuis. he had the foresight to have had smoltz, maddux and glavine.

my aunt mildred would be a genuis too if she was there pitching coach.

2006-11-12 13:59:16
21.   Simone
In reply to Cliff's post, clearly I am the only person, but I haven't been asking the Yankees to trade veterans for prospects. However, if that is what they are going do... well it isn't like I have any control over what they do. All I am asking the Yankees to do is sign or trade for one or two solid starting pitchers. Not easy, but hopefully it happens eventually.
2006-11-12 14:21:11
22.   OldYanksFan
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Have your web guy check your defined stylesheets:
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2006-11-12 14:25:20
23.   OldYanksFan
I suggested Robert Fick as backup C. His numbers are reasonable, and the cost is very cheap. This assumes they can not get a potential stud type guy.

Feedback please?

2006-11-12 14:37:49
24.   jakewoods
how about zaun or molina as backup catchers?

fick isnt much of a defensive catcher at all. hes what they call a dh.

2006-11-12 14:57:09
25.   pistolpete
19 Then how do you explain Bedard and Cabrera suddenly becoming Cy Young candidates against us this season?
2006-11-12 15:03:20
26.   pistolpete
25 I mean to reference 20
2006-11-12 15:29:41
27.   jakewoods
bedard is a good pitcher and cabrera was worlds of talent. his one outing against us in september doesnt make a career.

he did so well early that he got sent to triple a.

2006-11-12 15:49:22
28.   wsporter
Maybe someday we can say that Mazzone had the foresight to coach Bedard and Cabrerra.

Both these guys have immense tallent. They needed coaching and experience. Cabrerra in particular needed to learn how to "pitch" and controll his emotions a little. Those two may be really good this year.

2006-11-12 16:06:32
29.   C2Coke
Cashman is awesome. How does he manage to squeeze something out of nothing is beyond me. He paid nothing for three live young arms and he paid the same amount for getting rid of Wright and got another young arm in return. Genious. Honestly, I don't think anyone here can do a better job.

8 That same reason made me feel confident that something is being worked on, and when the announcement is made, it's going to make our whole off-season. (And no, I am not really referring to the Matsuzaka deal- as too many unknown factors, including how he can handle the transition not just pitching in ML level but also changing his entire environment, are involved- but just something big and Abreu-like.)
Is it obvious now that I have become a firm believe of Ca$hman?

2006-11-12 16:08:08
30.   C2Coke
29 *believer.
2006-11-12 16:13:27
31.   C2Coke
Peter Abraham's latest post may help to put the events this weekend into perspective for some fans.

http://tinyurl.com/yd3x4r

2006-11-12 16:18:18
32.   jakewoods
u can kinda assume that they have a good feeling about some pitcher out there if they're trading away wright

when they only really have 2 sp's now when moose resigns

makes me think that they may think they have a better than fair shot at matusaka

2006-11-12 16:37:49
33.   brockdc
24 I'd take any of either Fick, Zaun, or Molina as backup C. Molina might be nice because he's another RH bat (albeit a mediocre one). Zaun is fairly poor at throwing runners out. I don't know what his numbers were this past year, but, in one game, the Yanks ran on him at will.

At any rate, we have found that this is one glaring whole on the roster that necessitates more than just a warm body.

2006-11-12 18:44:39
34.   Murray
Is niiice. I like.
2006-11-12 19:40:00
35.   Yu-Hsing Chen
If we are going for a middle of the road guy i rather have Randy Wolf over Ted Lilly.

I would hope we can steal Hong Chih Kuo from the Dodgers, but that's hopeing for a bit too much ;)

2006-11-12 21:05:18
36.   monkeypants
well, Giants just found some new ways to embarrass themselves. Sigh--when does baseball season start?
2006-11-12 22:14:42
37.   jakewoods
for 28 minutes they dominated that game. i was so confident of victory i didnt put it back on and when i did it was 24-20.

lucky for me i got to watch hesters run

fun!

2006-11-13 01:07:54
38.   ukyankee
1st time poster....i've been looking for a good while from here in the UK. I'm a sports scientist for a pro soccer club.Been watching baseball for 4 years now and its quickly become the 3rd love of my life behind my daughter and wife. could you guys tell me why there are so many fat pitchers is the game......i can see no bio-mechanical advantages....only huge negatives, like extra strain on all joints, less stamina and poor mobility.....thanks
2006-11-13 03:29:41
39.   joejoejoe
38 This is completely unscientific but maybe fat pitchers have a deception advantage with their pitching motion, their roundness somehow making it a tiny bit harder for batters to pickup what kind of pitch is coming.
2006-11-13 04:48:33
40.   Jersey
38 - It's not by design. Tubby pitchers don't set out and say "I want to be the type of pitcher who relies on his girth!" Really, a lot of them are just fat guys, poor athletes who happen to have a nasty arm. Does being out of shape hurt their career? Yeah. But like anyone else in other segments of life, some pitchers just aren't into fitness. And, being a good athlete and a good pitcher are often independent of one another. So some guys get away with it.
2006-11-13 05:32:50
41.   C2Coke
38 Perpahs it's because they don't run around the bases? And they don't need to...
Baseball players are not the fittest athletics around, let along the pitchers who only need to stand on the mound. And then, there are all the late night beers and meals.
2006-11-13 05:33:34
42.   jakewoods
You know a big man may be in decent shape even if he is a little overweight.

Not everyone has to be on the cover of muscle and fitness to pitch.

2006-11-13 05:47:27
43.   rbj
Wasn't it Nolan Ryan who said something about pitching being mostly in the legs? Anyway, more rotund guys have stronger legs due to carrying all that extra weight around. That probably helps.

And yeah, a 49 (52?) yard field goal attempt. Brilliant move, Coughlin. /sarcasm.

2006-11-13 05:49:31
44.   Yankee Fan In Boston
38 the added weight might give the body more momentum as they push off the pitcher's mound and drive towards home plate. but i am basing this guess on absolutely zero scientific data.

also, we should all pitch in and send ca$hman a thank you card or a bouquet of flowers or a candygram or something. there was an outcry calling for young power pitchers the day after the ALDS ousting. he has landed 4 young power arms for the exact cost of getting rid of jaret wright. while i saw the logic presented here regarding holding onto wright, if ca$hman thought unloading him in favor of britton was a good idea, i will trust him until britton blows up.

i love the speculation that says that there must be another deal for a starter coming soon. moose should be returning any day now, too.

take heart, people. things are looking good.

2006-11-13 06:00:28
45.   Shaun P
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Ca$hmoney doesn't trade for a "young gun" starter at all. I really think he's stockpiling young arms to have in case the Yanks need them in '07 and beyond.

And, looking at it from all the other teams' perspective: what team that wants to compete in '07 and beyond is going to give up MLB proven young starting pitching? None of them. That leaves the teams that won't contend in '07: the Royals, the Nats, and the Pirates. (IMHO the Rays and the Orioles could be on the verge if things break right.) None of those teams will want to give up young pitching either.

Now, I could see Ca$hmoney using some of that young pitching to get a hitter or two (young catcher and/or righty 1B anyone?). But not a pitcher.

2006-11-13 06:04:16
46.   wsporter
Is anyone starting to get the feeling that the Seibu Lions may be getting ready to reject the bids? I thought they were going to announce on Monday morning Japan Time. That was about 13 hours ago. This just feels funnier with every tick of the international clock. (now watch they'll announce for the sawx in 5 min.)

I think pitchers are fatter because, being limited to life on a small hill, they consume more calories than they use.

2006-11-13 06:11:09
47.   Yankee Fan In Boston
46 "they consume more calories than they use."

insightful, educational, and hilarious.

yeah, this waiting is killing me. i figured we'd know what was happening by now. i am pulling my hair out...

2006-11-13 06:28:20
48.   jayd
This is going to be a splendid off season in Boston. I still think this Matsuzaka thing has the potential for more twists and turns than a gyroball in the dreams of your standard sawk's noggin. I was reminded the other day that Irabu had originally signed with the Padres before he whined and demanded to be traded to the Yankees. Wouldn't that be a total hoopla-hoop if history repeated itself?

In the meantime we wait till Tuesday. Does this mean we now close on Zito or is something greater on the horizon, a Johnson/Vasquez type trade for somebody REALLY interesting like Hong-Chih Kuo or Scott Kazmir as rumours fly?

2006-11-13 06:31:43
49.   Yankee Fan In Boston
48 oh dear god, please, don't tease me with unsubstantiated kazmir-to-NY rumors... after all of this matsuzaka frenzy ending in apparent let down, i don't think i could take that.
2006-11-13 08:52:21
50.   jayd
And here's another lefty in addition to Zito:
"There are other pitchers in Japan. On Friday, the Hanshin Tigers said they would grant left-handed starter Kei Igawa's longtime request and would post him. Igawa's posting won't cost that much. But he does present some interesting assets. He's only 27, one year older than Matsuzaka. He's left-handed, always a plus. And he has numbers, including a 93-mph fastball that has led to three Central League strikeout titles, including this season, when he fanned 194. A 20-game winner in 2003, he was 14-9 this season with a 2.97 ERA." Taken from a "rumours site" for fox sports.
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2006-11-13 08:56:07
51.   Yankee Fan In Boston
50 he pitched in the japan series. reporters were asking the US players how they thought he'd do in the US. david wright was really candid, saying that his fastball was good, but his slider was "flat."

in fairness, wright did mention that the kid had a month off before the series, and that could potentially have something to do with it, but... who knows.

2006-11-13 09:05:01
52.   OldYanksFan
38 ukyankee...
Speaking as a fat person....
I believe it is simply because there are a LOT of fat people in this world.
Position players can't get away with it as much, because it impedes their running and defense... although maybe not their offense.

Pitchers can get away with it if they can still pitch.

As someone who has been thin and fat and thin and fat a numbers of times...
I really don't believe I did ANYTHING better when I was (and am now) fat, except maybe eat.

And while it's possible that being a bit (10-15) lbs overweight might not hurt, I can't believe being overweight is any advantage at all.

If a fat person is in very good shape (oxymoron?) and has muscle 'hidden' under the fat, it may be deceptive. And yes... muscles do get stronger carrying extra weight... but those muscles also have a lot more work do... especially heart and lung.

When you look at 'pure stamina' sports, you rarely see overweight people.

A few year ago, Jorge put on weight and muscle, I think to achieve better power. Now he has lost the weight, and is a much better defensive player.

Being a little overweight is probably better then being a little underweight (reserves), but my purely personal opinion is:

Being more then a little overweight holds no advantage, and is probably a disadvantage. These guys are just fat... and I would venture are better off losing the extra weight.

2006-11-13 09:22:57
53.   Eirias
The Mets new stadium is going to be named "CitiField." Too funny!
2006-11-13 10:32:55
54.   Count Zero
I think you should all just get over the Matsuzaka thing -- Cashman evaluated how much he was willing to pay for Matsuzaka and I don't think a number over $20 million was ever in the picture for the Yanks. Keeping up with the Joneses / Red Sox as a player strategy has mostly netted us overpriced crap. (cf. Vazquez, Contreras, Pavano)

While I see Zito as a distinct possibility in the Yankees sights, I think what we should really be expecting is the out of left field surprise trade / signing like jayd is saying. There are some pitchers out there who may not be as untradeable as people think...and Cashmoney is known for his powers of misdirection.

2006-11-13 10:35:09
55.   ukyankee
Thanks for the insight and opinions! From my experience any athlete has a responsibility to there club/emlpyers and especially fans to prepare themselves to get the best out of there abilities. You look at a guy like Bruney ...or even 'Boomer' and wonder how much better they could be/have been if the had more respect for there talents
2006-11-13 11:26:18
56.   nemecizer
Word on the blogs is that the Seibu Lions will make some sort of announcement either tonight at 8pm or tomorrow night at 8pm (both times EST).
2006-11-13 11:27:57
57.   ukyankee
What about Ben Shhets......i read Milwaukee are after a CF (Melky) and i'm sure they'd appreciate a couple of the 'young power arms' ca$h just acquired!?????
2006-11-13 11:28:10
58.   ukyankee
thats Sheets!
2006-11-13 11:50:24
59.   Yankee Fan In Boston
matsuzaka. gammons. red sox.
2006-11-13 11:51:42
60.   Yankee Fan In Boston
$42M. that is too much. mr. ca$hman showed restraint. i respect his decision.
2006-11-13 11:54:57
61.   Simone
$42 million! Wow, I'm impressed. Good job by John Henry. Matsuzaka will be a stud and worth every penny.

Red Sox fans better never, never, ever complain about not being able to compete with the Yankees for players or the Yankees buying players.

2006-11-13 11:57:40
62.   Chyll Will
55 ee's onto sumthin'; someone get this chap (you are a chap, yesnomaybeso?) a seat in between Gene Monahagn and Steve Donohue, pretty pleeze? I mean, is conditioning an enforceable contract clause anymore?

Six "fat" players to consider:
George Herman "Babe" Ruth
David "Boomer" Wells
Hideki "Fat P@$%& Toad" Irabu
Sal "Fugginunbelievable" Fasan