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Peace On Earth And Good Will Toward Bud
2006-10-25 12:13
by Cliff Corcoran

Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig and Players Association Executive Director Donald Fehr have been vilified for a laundry list of reasons over the last two decades, often for good reason. But when the first post-strike Basic Agreement expired in late 2002, the players and owners averted a work stoppage for the first time since 1970, reaching an agreement right at the August 31 deadline. Last night, Selig and Fehr appeared at Busch Stadium in St. Louis just before Game 3 of the World Series to announce that, with the 2002 agreement set to expire in December 19, they've not only avoided a work stoppage yet again, but they've beaten the deadline by nearly two months.

More impressively, despite last night's game being something of a snoozer (a 5-0 Cardinals win behind a dominant outing from Chris Carpenter), the news of the new agreement appears to have been something of an afterthought to the mainstream media this morning. As well it should be. A dozen years after the World Series was cancelled as a result of what was then the longest work stoppage in professional sports history (thanks NHL!), order has finally been restored with the game on the field stealing the headlines from what, given the history* of labor strife in the sport, is actually a far more remarkable event. While it's clear that timing of this announcement was in no way coincidental (Selig's has had the specter of the 1994 World Series hanging over his head throughout his commissionership and is clearly still desperate to exorcise it), it remains apt. Though it is somewhat contradictory to do so, I think Selig and Fehr deserve to be celebrated for conducting this round of labor negotiations outside of the media spotlight, and for allowing the new agreement to be brushed aside by the media as a boring business story secondary to the game itself.

That said, a new labor agreement is big news, regardless of the temperature of the fire in which it was forged. The full agreement hasn't been posted yet (though once it is, it will likely appear here), but here are a few highlights as cribbed from the official press release.

  • The new agreement will last through the 2011 season, expiring on December 11, 2011. The five-year agreement is the longest in baseball's labor history*.
  • The deadlines for teams to resign departing free agents who have not been offered or have rejected salary arbitration have been eliminated, allowing all 30 teams to negotiate with free agents on equal terms.
  • Free agent compensation has been rolled back. Teams will have to surrender compensatory draft picks for Type A free agents only, with Type A being redefined at the top 20 percent of the free agent pool (was the top 30 percent). Teams losing Type B free agents (correspondingly redefined as players from 21-40 percent--was 31-50) will be compensated with supplemental round picks only. There is no longer any compensation for teams losing Type C free agents.
  • Players traded in the middle of multi-year contracts are no longer allowed to demand a trade from their new team. (Existing multi-year contracts are grandfathered, allowing a player already under a multi-year contract to demand a trade only if dealt during the term of his current contract.)
  • All amateur draft picks (with the exception of college seniors) must be signed by August 15. Teams that are unable to sign first or second round picks by that deadline will get the identical pick the next year as compensation. Teams unable to sign third round picks will get supplemental round picks between the third and fourth rounds the following year.
  • Minor leaguers are bound to their organizations for an extra year before becoming eligible for the Rule 5 draft.
  • No teams will be contracted during the term of the agreement.

*A Quick History of Major League Baseball's Collective Bargaining (simplified from this):

  • 1954: Major League Baseball Players Association officially recognized as a bargaining unit. Judge Robert Cannon is the union's part-time executive director.
  • 1965: Marvin Miller replaces Cannon and becomes the MLBPA's first full-time executive director.
  • 1968: First Basic Agreement signed, raising the major league minimum (to $10,000) as well as laying out a formal structure for labor relations.
  • 1970: Second Basic Agreement introduces independent grievance arbitration, the key decision that will ultimately lead to free agency in 1975.
  • 1972: Negotiations for the Third Basic Agreement result in the first work stoppage in Major League history. The players strike for 14 days in early April, eventually winning salary arbitration and an increase in pension.
  • 1976: Negotiations over the Fourth Basic Agreement lead the owners to lock the players out for 17 days during spring training. The Basic Agreement signed that summer grants the players free agency for the first time, a concession made as a result of the independent arbitration case won the previous winter by Andy Messersmith and Dave McNally, which invalidated the reserve clause.
  • 1980: Negotiations over the Fifth Basic Agreement lead to an eight-day player strike at the end of spring training. A new four-year agreement is signed, but the issue of free agent compensation will remain on the table until the following year.
  • 1981: A 50-day player strike divides the season in half. Ultimately, free agent compensation is introduced and the Fifth Basic Agreement is extended an extra year.
  • 1982: Ken Moffett replaces the retiring Marvin Miller as executive director of the MLBPA.
  • 1983: Moffett is fired by the players and replaced by Don Fehr.
  • 1985: Negotiations over the Sixth Basic Agreement lead to a two-day player strike in August. A new four-year deal is struck in which the owners drop free agent compensation in exchange for an extra year of service prior to salary arbitration eligibility, which will now occur after three full years of service. The missed games are rescheduled.
  • 1990: The owners are found guilty of colluding not to sign free agents from 1985-1987. Negotiations for the Seventh Basic Agreement lead the owners to lock the players out of Spring Training for 32 days. Commissioner Fay Vincent intercedes and forces the owners to drop all of their demands as well as instate a new level of salary arbitration eligibility for players with between two and three years of service. The move poisons the relationship between Vincent and the owners and eventually leads to his ouster and the appointment of Milwaukee Brewers owner Bud Selig to the position of interim commissioner in 1992.
  • 1993: Players and owners agree to extend negotiations for the Eighth Basic Agreement into the 1994 season.
  • 1994: Negotiations over the Eighth Basic Agreement, specifically over a salary cap, lead to a player strike that takes effect on August 12 and wipes out the remainder of the season and the entire postseason.
  • 1995: The owners attempt to begin the season with replacement players, but the MLBPA files a grievance with the National Labor Relations Board, which forces the owners to allow the players to play under the terms of the Seventh (1990) Basic Agreement. Reduced to 144 games, the season finally starts on April 26.
  • 1998: The Eighth Basic Agreement is finally put into effect, introducing revenue sharing and luxury tax for the first time. Bud Selig is promoted from interim to official commissioner.
  • 2002: The Ninth Basic Agreement is settled at the last minute, averting a work stoppage for the first time since the second agreement (the players had set a strike date for the day the new agreement is announced). The agreement introduces the game's first performance enhancing drug testing program.
  • 2005: In an unprecedented move, the owners and player reopen the Basic Agreement to increase the penalty schedule associated with drug testing, not once but twice.
  • 2006: The Tenth Basic Agreement is settled nearly two months ahead of the deadline, again avoiding a work stoppage.

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2006-10-25 13:49:42
1.   das411
Didn't the minimum salary also get bumped up again? There is some good analysis in today's NYT...at least they do cover sports well...
2006-10-25 13:50:46
2.   tommyl
Question: If the Yankees sign a type B free agent before 12/19, do they still lose the compensation picks?
2006-10-25 14:00:07
3.   Cliff Corcoran
2 I believe that the new agreement will take effect as soon as it's ratified by the players and owners, so no.

1 Thanks for asking, it made me realize I'd botched the press release link. Yes, minimum salaries go up like this:

Major Leagues: $380,000 in 2007, $390,000 in 2008 and $400,000 in 2009.
Minor Leagues: $60,000 in 2007, $62,500 in 2008, $65,000 in 2009

2006-10-25 14:01:54
4.   Shaun P
Mo' money less problems this time, huh?

The owners and players could almost screw up a billion dollar business (1994), but no way would they risk screwing up a five billion dollar business.

Kudos to Bud and Don for getting it right this time. But I still hold Bud (and Mike Port) accountable for the crappy strikezone so evident throughout the postseason, and the Rogers incident too.

2006-10-25 14:36:59
5.   Adam B
The draft pick compensation rules take effect after this offseason.

Now that it's quite obvious the game is doing well financially, it'd be good if Bud and Co. went to work on improving the quality of the game.

2006-10-25 15:40:17
6.   JL25and3
1 IMHO, The Times covers the business of sports far better than they cover the sports themselves. Murray Chass, who wrote the article you cite, makes some really bad efforts at statistical analysis.

This article makes an important point for the Yankees beyond what Cliff said. They will continue to pay a luxury tax of 40% of all salary over the threshold; however, that threshold will rise each year.

2006-10-25 15:44:52
7.   JL25and3
5 The change in the definition of Type A and Type B free agents - from 30%/50% to 20%/40% - takes place next year. The changes in compensation take effect this year.
2006-10-25 18:17:30
8.   yankz
Jeter wins the Hank Aaron award. shrunklink.com?lzi
2006-10-25 18:39:43
9.   Cliff Corcoran
6 Yeah, I skipped things such as the increases in minimum salary and luxury tax threshold because those just pick up where the old agreement left off. What I posted above is what will be unexpectedly different under the new agreement (from what's been announced, of course).
2006-10-25 18:56:03
10.   randym77
Think there's going to be a game tonight?
2006-10-25 19:31:27
11.   Simone
It is cool that Derek won the Hank Aaron award. We'll see if he wins the AL MVP.
2006-10-25 19:57:15
12.   OldYanksFan
A-Rod isn't going anywhere. That's the message agent Scott Boras said he received from New York Yankees GM Brian Cashman in a phone conversation about Alex Rodriguez recently, according to a report on the New York Daily News' Web site.

"Brian Cashman and I had a discussion and he made it clear that he has no intention of trading Alex," Boras told the Daily News, "and I told him that Alex Rodriguez has a no-trade clause.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2637909

2006-10-25 20:02:52
13.   Simone
The game has been postponed. Shame. I had hoped to watch Suppan get shelled tonight. Guess we'll have to wait a day.
2006-10-25 20:10:59
14.   randym77
12 Peter Abraham doesn't buy it:

===
What else is Boras supposed to say? "Glad you asked, Alex hates everybody booing him, he felt hitting eighth was a slap in the face and he wants out of there as quickly as possible."

Of course not. Rodriguez had a marketing image to protect and admitting he wants out of New York would be akin to stamping "I can't take pressure" on his forehead.

So Boras will keep saying the right thing right up until a deal is presented to him. Then you make the seamless transition to, "Anaheim in many ways will be even more of a challenge than New York and Alex loves a challenge."
===

2006-10-25 20:22:08
15.   Simone
Abraham is projecting his own opinion that the Yankees should trade Alex and that he wants a trade. I'm not willing to put my head on block for Alex, but I just don't believe that he wants a trade. I think that he wants to stick it out with the Yankees and then rub it in Jeter, Torre, the critical fans and media's faces when he carries the Yankees to a World Series victory. I might be giving him too much credit, but I believe that he is a competitor who wants to win.

In any case, if the Yankees do trade Alex, I can't see them trading him within the AL. They will send his butt to the NL.

2006-10-25 20:25:55
16.   JL25and3
14 I could also ask, what's Peter Abraham supposed to say? There's no story here, no need to discuss it anymore, I'm done writing about it?

Since it's all pure speculation, I'd expect Abraham to take the position that gives him more columns. Cynical of me? Maybe, though no more so than Abraham.

2006-10-25 20:29:47
17.   ny2
When asked about clubhouse tension toward the end, Jeter responded, "What tension?"

Then he was asked if he believes there is anything more he can do to show support for Rodriguez, referring to some degree of public perception that he had not been vocal enough in support of the superstar third baseman.

"What would you like me to do?" Jeter asked. "You're there, everyone supports all your teammates all the time. I don't know if there's anything else I can do. I'm not that smart."

Jeter also said that the media is not around the clubhouse long enough to be privy to conversations among players that are meant to be private, intimating that he has made efforts to reach out to Rodriguez.

http://tinyurl.com/ycrxbd

2006-10-25 20:38:40
18.   randym77
15 The fact that Pete is willing to do that tells me he thinks it will happen. Or at least that everyone wants it to happen. The only other player I can remember him dissing as badly as he's dissed A-Rod is Carl Pavano. He doesn't treat players like that if he thinks he's going to have to try to get interviews from them (or their friends) next year.

And frankly...nothing Cashman says will convince me, one way or the other. He's positioning himself for negotiations, as he has before. File this with "Bubba Crosby is our centerfielder" and his claims (twice) that they weren't making any trades (shortly before trading for Abreu, then again before trading for Wilson).

Does this mean I think A-Rod will be traded? Not necessarily. Depends on what's offered for him. We aren't giving him away for a bag of baseballs. But is he on the block? Hell, yes.

2006-10-25 20:40:17
19.   randym77
P.S. I don't think he'll to go Anaheim. I hope he doesn't. The last thing we need is to give our nemesis that kind of advantage.
2006-10-25 20:59:39
20.   randym77
Sheff's not happy:

http://tinyurl.com/voegb

===

New York Yankees slugger Gary Sheffield, informed Wednesday that the Yankees will pick up his $13 million option in 2007, was angry by the decision, hoping instead the Yankees would let him go.

""This will not work, this will not work at all," Sheffield told USA TODAY. "I don't want to play first base a year for them. I will not do that."

Sheffield, who heard that the Boston Red Sox, Detroit Tigers, Chicago Cubs and Los Angeles Angels were interested him, said he was hoping to test the free-agent market and receive another three-year contract.

"I don't know what they're [Yankees] going to do," Sheffield said. "Maybe they picked it up just to trade me. If they do that, if I just to a team for one year, there's going to be a problem.

"A big problem.

"I will not do this."

===

2006-10-25 20:59:51
21.   Stormer Sports
12

Oh God!

Re: "Brian Cashman and I had a discussion and he made it clear that he has no intention of trading Alex," Boras told the Daily News, "and I told him that Alex Rodriguez has a no-trade clause.

First, the conversation didn't happen that way, not even close. Scott Boras is an advocate of a client and position, that's it. Brian Cashman knows who has a no-trade clause, and Boras knows that. He didn't tell Cashman that Arod has a no-trade clause, that was meant for the media and fans, in an effort to provide the perception that he and his client are in equal bargaining position with the Yankees. In other words Boras is saying that Cashman doesn't intend to trade Alex, but if he does, he better rememember that we have the power to veto it. It's quite simple really, but fools almost everyone.

Look, Boras and Alex have no power here, no bargaining power or otherwise, and Boras knows that. He also knows that his power is diminished greatly because he is dealing with the Yankees, not a team whose absorbtion of 16 Mil. for a player not on the field would be a huge blow to the team. The only obligation the Yankees have to Alex is to pay him, that's it, and Boras knows he is in a much more tenuous position than are the Yankees. The Yankees could send Alex home right now and send him his check for the next 3 years, foreclosing statistical accumulation, Alex's ability to benefit from endorsements, and to raise or lower his stock once his contract expires. The Yankees could easily absorb the salary with little or no effect on the team.

The tone of the cited quotes from Boras, Alex and others tells me a trade is going to happen. To think like Boras is to think like a lawyer, which I unfortunately am, and I smell trouble a' brewin. If Boras continues to assert that he and his client have more power than they actually have in private off the record discussions with the Yankees, Alex will be the one who gets hurt in all this, not Boras, and not the New York Yankees. He's a puffer fish. He took a deep breath, puffed his body to nearly 3 times its size, but he's still a little fish, and the shark that is the Yankees can still swallow him and his client without chewing.

Sports agents do three things well: serve their own interest; take advantage of slow-witted GM's and sports "journalists;" arrange prostitutes for clients, potential clients, and their friends, but not much else.

2006-10-25 20:59:58
22.   Simone
The media and some Yankees fans need to give this coddling of Alex Rodriguez a rest. I will never understand why Derek Jeter is expected to be Rodriguez's appointed therapist. When Giambi spoke out in the SI article, he was crushed because there was the whole "who is he to talk" criticism.

In any case, what exactly can Jeter say to make Rodriguez perform better? He certainly isn't as good as a player as Rodriguez so what is there to say? Also, it seems pretty obvious that Derek doesn't like Rodriguez so if he pretends to be his friend as so many people want doesn't that make him, "D-Fraud?" If Derek did decide to fake a friendship and have a therapy session with Rodriguez and there isn't this "whatever is expected breakthrough," what then?

I don't even understand what is supposedly wrong with Alex Rodriguez. He won the MVP last season and had a good season. Yes, he struggled in the playoffs, but so did just about every other Yankee. What exactly is wrong with Alex?

Arrggh, ESPN has a segment coming up on "A-Rod's future." When will this BS end? Between the media and fan obsession with Rodriguez and T.O., I feel like I'm losing my mind as a sports fan. My two teams constantly being picked at by people with annoying agendas.

At least, Derek looks hot in his blue striped suit being interviewed on ESPN.

2006-10-25 21:05:21
23.   Simone
20 Ahhh, Sheffield starts to make it difficult for the Yankees and they haven't even picked up his option yet. So predictable.
2006-10-25 21:05:46
24.   ny2
22. exactly

"What would you like me to do?" Jeter asked. "You're there, everyone supports all your teammates all the time. I don't know if there's anything else I can do. I'm not that smart."

2006-10-25 21:08:26
25.   randym77
21 LOL! You certainly have a colorful turn of phrase. A puffer fish? Er, aren't they poisonous?

22 Maybe we can trade A-Rod for TO. :-P

But with Bledsoe benched today in favor of Romo, the press should have something else to talk about.

2006-10-25 21:10:05
26.   Stormer Sports
20

He talks as if he has a choice. At some point all these clowns forgot that they are employees, not business owners. If they want to trade him, that's Sheff's problem, and there are no other "problems" he can create without repercussions to him, and no one else, and there is nothing he can do about it.

If he refuses to play first, he gets suspended without pay and loses at arbitration. Sorry bud, you have no right a particular position or spot in the order. The collective bargaining agreement and precedent are very very clear on that kiddo.

His use of "they" and "they're" instead of we and us, says everything anyone needs to know about Gary Sheffield. In the back of my mind I have to believe Torre was half hoping he would be fired, simply to avoid all this.

2006-10-25 21:10:45
27.   Stormer Sports
25

"LOL! You certainly have a colorful turn of phrase. A puffer fish? Er, aren't they poisonous?"

Exactly!

2006-10-25 21:21:35
28.   randym77
I wonder if the Yanks have picked up Sheff's option just to trade him? Pete Abe thought they would do that, and trade him for pitching. And that it would infuriate Sheff.

I thought they'd let him walk, myself. I really don't want to see him at 1B next season. And apparently, he doesn't want to be there, despite what he said earlier.

2006-10-25 21:21:47
29.   weeping for brunnhilde
Jeter, from the AP story: "Do I expect him to be back? Yeah, why wouldn't I expect him to be back?" Jeter said about A-Rod after receiving the Hank Aaron Award at the World Series. "You never sit around trying to figure out with our organization, but Alex has what? -- a few more years left on his deal -- so, yeah, I would expect him to be back."

Talk about damning with faint--or no-praise.

I don't much care about Jeter's feelings about Arod but I just thought this was funny.

Asked if he thinks Rodriguez will be back, Jeter doesn't talk about the man's numbers or his value to the team, but basically says, "Well, we're stuck with him," referring to the team's legal obligation to the man.

Funny, no?

2006-10-25 21:22:24
30.   weeping for brunnhilde
"Ha-ha"-funny, btw, not curious-funny.
2006-10-25 21:32:09
31.   ny2
29. Joe Torre said about the same thing today in an interview ... kind of stating he's staying because of he has a no trade clause instead of either of them stating he's staying because we want and need alex on this team
2006-10-25 21:38:08
32.   weeping for brunnhilde
Another chuckler from the captain:

"They don't give a trophy saying: 'Well, you know, you thought you had the best team, so you win,'" Jeter said. "It doesn't make a difference what you think about your team. The bottom line is who performs."

He is so unremittingly competetive I'm actually concerned for him a little.

What will he do after baseball?

I wonder if he loves the game per se or just the competition it affords.

2006-10-25 21:40:29
33.   weeping for brunnhilde
31 They are trying to run this guy out of town on a rail.

I can't think of any other explanation.

He's history.

2006-10-25 21:44:16
34.   ny2
32. did you watch the award presentation video ... there's a funny part when Ryan says that he had a blast this season ... and jeter laughs and says "you're season was fun" alluding to the fact that his wasn't

http://tinyurl.com/vp422

2006-10-26 03:46:38
35.   choirboyzgirl
I have to say when I read the article (haven't been watching much ESPN these days). Jeter's comment (and this isn't a knock on him just made me chuckle a little) There's nothing more I can do, what else do you want me to do? Reminded of a kid that put a half effort into something and then proclaimed he couldn't do it. LOL

To me it would have been nice to see a little public support for Alex from the captain....he doesn't have to "coddle" him but again something along the lines of he's a good (haha he doesn't have to say "great") player blah blah blah. Jeter isn't above telling untruths to the media...I don't detect any tension. Really I can tell there's some there and I'm a 1,000 miles away! Heck Ozzie Guillen has shown more support for Alex and we know they don't always get along!

It just amazes me how someone who take steriods etc... gets more support than someone who simply struggled. By both his teammates and the media....Publicly its more accepted to cheat (and win) than have a bad year (and not win).

So what do you think is worse for Alex being constantly compared to T.O or being booed by the fans LOL. There was talk about how Pudge is 0-23 in his last 23 at bats and no one is booing him, dragging him through the mud on ESPN, demanding that he be traded. If you're Alex do you say maybe I am better off somewhere else? Or are you thinking I'll get back on track and show them all (I hear he has a little bit of stubborn streak LOL).

Simone- do you really think that the Yankee Fans are coddling Alex? If so I would hate to see how they react when they are disappointed LOL

Stormer Sport- I don't dobut that Boras 'reminded' Cashman that Alex has a no trade clause when they spoke, especially if
some possible teams were mentioned :)

2006-10-26 04:10:11
36.   randym77
Ugh. The weather report is pretty awful through the weekend. We may end up with November baseball again.
2006-10-26 04:34:30
37.   yankz
35 With your superhero vision (being able to see tension from 1,0