I was cursing at the MLB schedule makers for giving me another Monday w/o the Sawx, Yanks or Mets to watch.

In the next 3 weeks, I'll be begging for an off-day as will the players.

Is Ron Gardenhire the worse manager in baseball? How does he leave Liriano in there with a sore/hurting arm?

1 I know what you mean, bro. I didn't know what to do without a truly meaningful game in my world. It did give me time to write a bit though.

Gardenhire and the doctors/trainers...they say it's muscular and not structural, so it's not serious. Even so, you can't play with the health and future of the best young pitcher in baseball.

Alex, I'm real excited about seeing Cano back. Even if he somehow doesn't hit a lick for a week or two, he is going to get hot and no one will beat us. Probably have him really cooking by the time either Matsui or Sheffield comes back. Then it'll be their turn.

Good stuff.

2 Mike, I just got through reading your MVP analysis. Good stuff, a lot of good detail there and objective analysis.

Got this from Gleeman's Twins blog today:

According to Joe Christensen of the Minneapolis Star Tribune:

Francisco Liriano, Minnesota's rookie All-Star, is out indefinitely with what appears to be a left elbow injury.

In a quiet postgame clubhouse, Liriano, 22, seemed on the verge of tears, and his voice crackled as he described the pain, pointing to the inside of the elbow this time, beneath the muscle and possibly in the joint.

"I couldn't even throw the fastball, slider, changeup anything," Liriano said. "It bothered me every pitch I threw."

And yes, Gardenhire is one of the worst managers in baseball. For all the griping done here about Torre's lineups, at least he doesn't take Gardenhire's approach and set it by POSITION (i.e. when Mauer sits, Redmond bats in the 3 hole). I'm not saying Torre is perfect, but it could be a LOT worse...

Ralph Houk used to bat the 2B lead-off no matter who it was.

Running Liriano out with his arm already bothering him is unforgivable.

4 One thing about blogs and from reading various one's on the net from different fans of different teams, it definitely seems like NOBODY likes whoever is running their respetive teams'.

I'm a big Torre supporter and would never say a bad word about the guy. Too much analysis is done game-by-game, as opposed to looking at the entire body of work. Torre has his flaws, as does everyone, but I don't think there is a better man for the job.

Is anyone else salivating at the the pitching matchup on 08/10? I hope Javy gets rocked. I hope the Yanks beat on him like like the Indians did back in 2004. Now imagine what I would say if I actually didn't like Javy? I just hated the fact that he became such a bust and he was replaced with an even bigger pu**y named Carl Pavano. Javy left a bad taste in my mouth in 2004, but I also had a soft spot for him. Now I want the Yanks to club dinger-after-dinger. Wouldn't it be great to see Damon hit a grand slam off of him? I can't wait for that game.

6 i liked Javy.. i still believe he was shunted very early..

ofcourse, we donno whether he wud have recovered from the grand slam if he was here in 05..

but the first half of 04 he was decent.. he went to ASG for good measure..

but its all past.. just hoping we tread .550 over the next 21 games.. that wud b good for us.. for september..

6- I feel the same way about Contreras. I was at his last game as a Yankee..he was pounded by Baltimore and lost to, of all pitchers, Sydney Pontoon! So yeah, it made my gut turn when he had such a great season last year in Chicago. Ah well, we clipped him once already this year.

Tonight we get Freddie "Jimmy Smitts" Garcia. I think we scored 6 runs off him last time we faced him, so lets hope we can give Wang Dang Doodle the same run support.

Guys this from Bob Raissman of Daily News

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/441732p-372057c.html

i donno how bad it was, did any of u listen to Kay's show yest evening..

Umm, wow.

9 Deadspin has the audio of Kay's rant.
http://tinyurl.com/ppwwb
Not to get all conspiracy theory on you guys, but I wonder if that had anything to do Ken SIngleton's solo act in the booth the next day and if Paul O'Neill's "flight troubles" were just a cover.

1 I don't know if you get SNY (the Mets channel) but they aired yesterday's SI Yanks - Brooklyn Cyclones game. Not the same as the real thing, but we could be cheering on a few of those guys in a few years.

9 I got wind of that via Deadspin. People were assuming if that's why Singleton was alone on Friday because Kay got suspended.

http://tinyurl.com/ppwwb

6 Yeah I'm looking forward to Thurs. game. Wish I was going actually, but couldn't swing it. Am going to Wed game instead.

Kinda irritated about it since when I bought the tickets last week Lidle was listed as the Yankee starter. I figured I could handle watching him go. Now I get the Big Enuch.

And my seats are nearly directly behind home plate, so I'll have a perfect view of his patented frisbee slider as it floats into the kill zone of Konerko and Dye. Ugh.

Speaking of pitching matchups, how bout this coming Sunday -- Wang vs Weaver (the one who doesn't suck).

Was he suspended? I thought Singleton did an outstanding job by himslef. Thats not easy! I couldnt figure out at the time why he was alone.

I think Kay is one of the best announcers in baseball, it would be a travesty to lose him over something like this.

11 I just thought there was no baseball on, other than what ESPN had on. Thanks for the 411!

I thought Singleton was terrific on his own. He was smooth and professional; he never seemed at a loss for words, but didn't ramble or babble or repeat himself; and sometimes he (gasp) just kept quiet for a few seconds and let the game happen. I much preferred it to the rotating three-man tag team.

Wow, the term 'meltdown' seems very appropriate in this case...

So, they want them to be "edgy" and "controversial" but only to a certain degree. Press the line, but don't step on any toes and the line can change at will (for PR reasons). Stupid talk radio. They've created their own monsters. Good luck stuffing them back into Pandora's Box. Maybe I'm a throwback (@ 29), but a little class and composure gets credit IMO.

Um, how did Cliff Lee's agent let him sign a 3 year extension for $14mil??? With an $8 club option on the back end? Somehow I think Boras is invoved in this. The price for Zito (and every other FA SP) just went up. Somebody tell this guy about supply vs. demand.

14 "I think Kay is one of the best announcers in baseball, it would be a travesty to lose him over something like this."

Tim Marchman of the New York Sun recently wrote an article where he compared Mets and Yankees announcers.

He claimed Kay fans didn't exist. I guess there is at least one Kay fan.

19 1.4 WHIP / 14 Mill = .1 WHIP/MIL

by my dumb math that equals a stupid price for a mediocre pitcher. The Yankees could be in real trouble next year. It almost looks like a good idea to exercise Moose's option (and Wright's).

4 Lirianio is indeed hurt and likely going on the DL in the next couple of days. We'll know more after he gets his elbow reexamined on Wednesday. On the one hand I'm really sorry to see this happen, he's a good kid and a phenomenal talent. On the other, its just more distance the Yankees can put between them and a very dangerous contender.

Lastly, it now appears that Houston was the team to claim Jones, but Atlanta has already pulled him back, both as anticipated. Relax, he's definitely not going to the Sox now.

My wife loves when he thanks her for watching, lol. So I guess he's grown on me.

12 Is that Alan Alda in the booth talking about baseball gods or some such nonsense? What a strange story. I am not a Kay fan, but I actually like his HR call "looking up . . see ya" It's a little more subdued than Sterling's on the radio.

21 I'm no mathemetician, but I've seen mediocre guys get in the $8mil/yr range. Throw in the fact that he's 27 and LH. It just seems so low that the PA would put their foot down on that one.
But I think you're right, the Yanks might have to use Moose's option.

Wow. Kay went off the deep end. Maybe this will open up a spot for Tony Kubek again. LOL. Always thought he was able to get his point across without being longwinded like McCarver. Of course, he was never afraid to hammer the Yanks/Big Stein, which prompted his exit...

9 I hope anyone out there in Yankeeland that has any affinity for Michael Kay now realizes what a self-absorbed ass-hat that clown of human being is. What a douchebag; going from a baseball related debate and then bringing up slavery and the holocaust. Like I really needed another reason to dislike Michael Kay for F-sake.

23 I like Sterling for the most part (which often puts me in the position of defending him).

But the Big Bang was a little more subdued than his HR call.

"Stupid talk radio. They've created their own monsters."

Exactly. There isn't a single talk show that I can stand listening to for more than 30 seconds.

"I'm Brash! I'm in Your Face! I'm Extreme!" ... just like every other no-talent ass-clown.

Fabulous analysis of the MVP candidates, Mike. Thanks for posting that.

Just give me some announcers that are more concerned with talking about what I tuned in to watch in the first place-the damn ballgame. Don't make excuses for the guys when they F up and stop with all the self-promotion for with the overstated homerun calls, etc...

30 You got it. There are times when I want Mystery Science Theater 3000, but not during baseball. Thank God for the mute button (extra special thanks when FOX is broadcasting).

I wish all broadcasters were like the Scooter. Congrats to old people celebrating another year, say Holy Cow a few times, then leave after the 6th or 7th to beat the traffic, and allow us to watch the rest of the damn game in peace. God bless you, Phil Rizzuto.

Does baseball need to ban greenies from broadcasters too? Kay needs to lay off the "Floyd Landis Water Bottle" or switch to de-caf.

Overall I like Michael Kay, especially when you compare him to the other announcers out there (McCarver, Hawk, Palmer, Pacoriek, Sutcliffe, Morgan, etc...). He's no Scully or Costas (but who is?).

Kay says some stupid stuff sometimes and probably should just remain silent more and let the pictures do the talking, but I have grown to like some of his calls (my two-year-old son has even started saying "There it goes" like Kay does).

I like the way the YES announcers are not "homers" and never say "we" when referring to the Yankees. I do wish they would not be so excited when the other team does something good (I guess I really hate that because I'm usually mad about what just happened).

I suppose you can put me down as a Kay fan and even though I agree with him that he should be able to tell the fans about a no-hitter or perfect game whenever he wants, going off on that caller was over the line in my book.

you can tell it's a boring day at the banter when we are all focused on Kay.

We have the toughest part of the Yankees schedule coming up and a lot of people are quite calm around these parts of the wood. Nobody calling for Torre or CASHman to be fired, nobody seems angry about the rotation, lack of key hits, the lineup, Cairo, GoB, Andy Phillips, Proctor's appearances, Farnsworth inability to work 2 days straight, Dotel coming/not-coming back, etc, etc.

Are we too confident? Anyone concerned?

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DING-DONG

Who's there?

It's the White Sox, Mother-F'ers, and you f'ers swept us the last time and you are now in our home turf and we want some revenge.

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I think we pissed off the White Sox and they want Jeter's face on platter. I want to be concerned….but Wang has instilled in me this confidence that hasn't been there for a very long time - as far as a starting pitcher is concerned. Should we as Yankee fans be concerned?

26 Last night the South Park episode bagging on TV psychic John Edward aired, where he wins the 'Biggest Douchebag in the Universe Award'. Yankees fans need to mobilize for a write-in campaign nominating Kay next year.

While his voice is forever linked to some of the greatest moments in team history (and maybe I give him too much slack for that), the act is wearing thin.

Wish I could have heard Kenny's one-man show the other night. He is a pleasure to listen to. He and John Flaherty could very well be the best two-man booth in the game.

34 Our good friend over at WasWatching.com thinks if the Yanks go 13-8 over the next 21 games, it could be enough to wrap up the AL East.

That sounds a bit tight to me. If we play light outs and end up 16-5, I'd say we're getting close. A 1978-style 'Boston Massacre' sweep (or 4-1 result) in Fenway would definitely but the Sawx on the canvas, but you still couldn't count 'em out. I'm down with Yogi when it comes to them.

Also, completely agree with your take on Mr. Torre in post #6.

I think Harold Reynolds is looking for a job. Doubt he'd make slavery references.

37 Also, they probably wouldn't have to worry about HR wanting to hug Waldman (after all, that's Sterling's job, right Sliced?).

32 Amen to that, Knuckles! I would rather listen to White and Scooter than just about any other broadcast team out there today (except Vin Scully).

35 I was in NY visiting the folks and had the pleasure of hearing Singleton's one-man show Friday, and then the Kenny-O'Neill combo on Saturday. It was fantastic. I would like to see that pairing more often, or the Singleton-Flaherty combo.

32 If Scooter was around in the bottom of the 9th, it would a tie game, bases loaded, 2 out and he'd be giving directions to find the best cannoli in Flatbush.

34 I have to admit I'm a bit apprehensive about this upcoming series. The Chi-Sox were beat up by the Halos yesterday at home and I'm sure their players remember the trouncing they took in the Bronx. So there's the feeling that they may be in the "we have to make a stand" mindset. Looking at things rationally though, Wang's been great, Garcia's been struggling; the line-up will have Robbie in it for the first time in weeks; the line-up in general is as lethal as it has been in months; and Yanks are playing solid baseball. However baseball is a strange and unpredictable game so anything can happen; I just hope we come out on top after this 21 game slug-fest of a guantlet.

41 i would take a 13-8, and hopefully not more than 2 of those losses in the 5 game series..

we will be good if we can do that..

Bama, speaking of Morgan, he's on Dan Patrick's show right now. Listening to him makes me want to jab corncob forks into my ears repeatedly. He is the most predictable, unenlightening bore in baseball broadcasting.

43 ESPN.com chats have Morgan on tuesday's.. u can see chatters bugging him with stat qns and him relentlessly defending how stats are useless

and how the 70s team was not configured that way..

the funny thing is.. if he is scheduled to chat at 11am.. he only arrives at 11:30 am..

but oh he leave by 11:55am.. hes a busy man u see..

and the 4 qns he takes.. 2 will be abt the 77 reds team and the final qn on his back to back MVPs

33 You think the Yankee announcers aren't homers? I'm a Yankee fan and I think they're homers. Except for Kaat. I don't have enough experience with Flaherty and Leiter to pass judgement.

There's worse out there but they toe the company line in my opinion.

41 I watched a good chunk of that game and thought Buerhle was getting pinched. I think Ozzie is to blame for their being on pins and needles. Well, that and the fact that he loaded up on his players and couldn't predict an 18 inning affair right before the "break". Whoops. I'm all for taking advantage of them though. Plus I have Wang on my fantasy team. Yay me!

That's assuming there wasn't any thunderstorms in the forecast-otherwise Scooter would be gone by the 3rd. LOL

Morgan was making the case that Papi should be MVP despite being a DH. Part of his justification was that he is the leader in the clubhouse and "he's always smiling." He then says he wouldn't vote for a pitcher for MVP cuz they only play every 5th day. Which is completely different than only playing offense. Riiiiight. Way to be consistent, Joe.

He's always smiling?! There's a crazy guy in Central Park that's always smiling. Give him the MVP!!!

43 "corncob forks": good one, KBT.

In an apparent trend setting ballot, the BBWA have voted Kevin Millar as the AL MVP and Juan Pierre as the NL MVP..

the trend setting part has to do with the awards being announced well ahead of regular season so these talks dont distract the actual season

and also as chairman of awards Joe Morgan said " these 2 guys are great in the clubhouse, they help keep the clubhouse loose and often crack jokes.. they remind me of the 1970's team the way they play with their socks tucked in their shoes.. they also hit the occasional Home Run.. and not always.. to me they are the MVPs not because of their on-field excellence but because of their dugout humour and candor.. and their wives make great pancakes too.."

"what sets them apart is that they bring it to the table everyday.. u cant see those things in the numbers... actually this year the awards are a good example u dont have to have the numbers to win the awards.."

"we also were confident that they are not PED users as their smile and teeth color have remained intact even after MLB started the testing program..

ladies and gentlemen ur MVPs..

Video Asst: Joe..

Joe M: yes

Asst: I think ESPn switched over to WSOP when u startaed that second sentence..

48, 49, 51, etc. Look, the MVP has been pretty much a jooke for over half a century. Who cares who wins this popularity award? To win it means you've been validated by BBWAA--that is, by Peter Gammons and friends. Big deal.

Gotta share my Scooter story. His grandaughter was in my highschool class. At my graduation, my uncle comes up to me. I assume he's going to say congratulations on graduating and going to college and all and he says:

"This is the greatest day of my life! I met Phil Rizzuto!"

Gotta love my family.

26 Agreed 150% with you! That's exactly what I was thinking - baseball is one thing, but comparing it to historical travesties like those he mentioned is just plain ignorance on his part. You're right...BIG TIME D**CHEBAG!

53 At least they 'keeps it real'.