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Sidney Ponson is bad.
He does (did) have talent, my questions on him are 1) is his trouble with alcohol behind him and 2) is he in shape to pitch. And one more question, what other options are out there?
I do think a .500 record from a fifth starter is not bad.
Guys, remember when Cliff made his list of least-favorite all-time Yankees? My first thought yesterday evening upon hearing the news was, "Man, Bonzone goes straight to the head of the class."
It's almost so bad, I find it comic. Is there a guy you could think of who is less like your idea of what a Yankee player should be? This guy is like a descendent of our favorite fat, pussy, toad, H. Irabu.
Maybe he'll be good for a few laughs...at least, that help us from crying too badly.
Judging by these comments by Cash, Ponson will be on a very short leash and is not the last move the Yanks will make to shore up the pitching. It seems like they're hoping to get as much as they possibly can out of Ponson before he implodes.
I don't know what's not to like about this move -- no talent given up, less than the minimum salary spent, and an arm with a high ceiling.
You smashed the snail on the shell, Cliff, "Sidney Ponson is bad."
What in the wide world of cliches is Cash thinking? Does he realize how desperate this dumpster-dive makes the Yankees appear - just as the summer trade winds are beginning to blow?
Holy crop, the Yanks have nobody better on the farm than Sid Voracious?
Who's tending their green acres, Eva Gabor?
Taking a flier on this Hindenburg of a pitcher who's lugging more Samsonite than Newark International.
Who does Cash like at Belmont? Barbaro?
Exaggerated rant off, I guess there's this upside to Ponson: he could deflect some boos away from A-Rod -- the day he's here.
And maybe he realizes he's run out of chances. If not, he and Raul Mondesi can go bowling together.
He's not just bad but a serious underachiever, which makes his suckitude that much more infuriating. Worse yet, he's been an object of our scorn and ridicule for years. I don't know if there's any way I could start rooting for him.
3 I don't cut him any slack for "struggling with alcoholism." Frankly, I don't know if he's struggling with it or rather enjoying it.
...doesn't come at a player cost
...dollars and cents, it doesn't cost much
...this is a shot worth taking
...compared to everything else that's been available
Pretty clear to me. It's a 'Small' deal. Hardly worth bantering about. It's like dating a pretty but real fat chick who says she's on a diet. The odds are long, but you never know.
The sidebar on this site has a character who goes by the name Steven White. His AA and AAA records indicate he has been a very decent pitcher. At the very least, I expect him to do what Alay Soler is doing for the Mets. Instead, we have to endure at least a couple of starts from Ponson. Who not ask Al Leiter to come down from the YES booths? Or Kevin Brown from retirement? Can't be any worse.
Man, I miss Rob Gee!
Sidney Ponson in pinstripes. Jesus Tapdancing Christ.
It's a sad indication of just how awful the market for pitching is. I would be shocked if someone the quality of Lieber dropped in our lap by the trade deadline...I suspect there will be quite a fight for a pitcher with any semblance of quality.
In other news, rotoworld is reporting:
1. "The White Sox have been calling around to clubs letting it be known that Javier Vazquez or Freddy Garcia would be available in a trade. The White Sox expect Brandon McCarthy to join the rotation soon and want a top notch middle reliever back in exchange. According to a source, the Phillies are willing to give up Tom Gordon in a deal with the Sox. The Mets could also be interested, but Duaner Sanchez or Aaron Heilman would be part of the price tag."
2. "Along with the Yankees and Red Sox, the Mets have expressed interest acquiring Abreu before the July 31 trade deadline. An NL executive said Phillies GM Pat Gillick is giving his club two weeks to nudge back into the race or else he will more seriously consider major deals. The Mets also inquired about Jon Lieber and Tom Gordon."
Things are now starting to really get interesting and I am sure Cashamn is burning through his cell phone minutes right now.
There's so much more to discuss about than Ponson.
To quote Linda Richman, talk among yourselves...
On a slightly related topic, did anyone else notice how Sully from THTDB threw in that Keith Foulke was "every bit as good as Rivera?"
I think I did a triple-take.
Let's just hope that Sir Sidney doesn't leave us verklempt this season...
When did I make the Foulek-Rivera comment?
As for Schteeve's reference, that's pretty funny. I'll never live that one down.
Mo is NOT the best reliever every year.
He is simply the best reliever in the history of baseball.
Intellectualize as much as you like, but there is always some amount of random luck it baseball. Geez, last year lightning struct twice for us. Cash would be a fool not to trade a pair of Stein's shoes for Ponson.
24 I think we need Abreu. However, regarless of what he might bring us, we simply can't let him play at Fenway. Get him or shoot him, but we can't let him play for the Sox, batting 5th behind Papi and Manny. The very thought makes me shutter.
21 Go to the track on any given and there's always a horse going at 100:1, because there are always some idiots who are willing to bet on him and lose $2. Of course, at the end of the year, there are always a few guys who are 'idiots like a fox'.
I said the Ponson deal is a 'Small' deal, but there is one difference. Small NEVER had avy potential.
For the record, I do think it is worth the gamble (as long as they don't wait to long to cut their losses if it goes bad). I read somewhere (Anthony McCarron, I think) that Sir Sidney has been dry since August (almost makes me feel bad for all the comments I made yesterday... almost). Let's hope that pistopete is right in 18 and the Yankees clubhouse turns him into the next Dwight Gooden reclamation project.
I have yet to hear any (educated*) Sox fan claim that Papelbon is on Rivera's level. He is the best closer Boston has had in many years, and he's had half a year of being one of the best closers in the game. The only things I've really heard from "us" is that (a) Papelbon has been as effective as Mo this year, and (b) it's nice to finally get that feeling the Yankee fans have felt for years now: that games are almost 8 inning affairs.
*WEEI and FOX don't fall into this category
Dotel end of July.. Cano by weekend..
Sturtze3.. oops we all forgot abt him, he is out fo the year
I have a feeling Cash is going to bet the house on Farnsworth improving in the second half, Dotel (do tell),an earlier than expected return for Matsui (mid August), Sheff coming back BIG in September. Is Pavano now definetly out for the rest of the year -- I keep hearing that and then the opposite.
Less the Yankees more the RS making moves is the real story here. They don't have a fourth never mind a fifth starter and do you really think Poppelbum is going to have the arm strength to make it through a whole season. Curt's elbow is bleeding as we speak here.
The only really great trades would be for a difference maker like Dontrelle or Zito for the series or the ALDS against Detroit. Don't see that happening anymore. Aside from that I think we take the Sox -- hell we'll be in 1st by the end of the month -- they play Oakland 10 times. I see that as 3-7 at best.
In his last two appearances, he blew a save (HR by Dye) and then gave up to 2 hits in one inning in yesterday's game.
Now this may just be wishful thinking, but suddenly he's not so invincible, is he? It's a very, very small sample...but I wouldn't be suprised if he struggles over the next few weeks. Eventually, the league will catch up to him because he has very good stuff, but not amazing stuff (a la Detroit's Joel Zumaya). A 96 mph fastball and a good split does not a .50 ERA pitcher make. My guess is that he finishes the season with an ERA closer to 2.00, whcih means he'll have his share of blown saves in the 2nd half.
Why do I have a feeling that Cashman is on the phone with Byrd's agent as we speak?
As for the Ponson signing, there could be many reasons for this deal going down. Ie: leverage, nothing to lose, lightning in a cell-sized test tube. Obviously we don't know the real reason, so without jumping to conclusions I say we just see how it goes.
Let's hope that Jeter and company can have a positive influence on Sir Sidney and Cashman's gamble pays off.
I think Sliced was on a roll in 7:
"Ponson eats everything but innings."
"Lightning in a bottle? Smells more like stale Aruba rum punch in Sid's thermos."
"What's more bloated? His ERA or his waist size? Ba-dum-bum."
and my favorite:
"Who does Cash like at Belmont? Barbaro?"
David Letterman called, he want's his Top Ten one-liners about the Ponson signing back...
Okay, back on topic. Might I say something quixotic in that Ponson, for what it's worth, could very well be considered a reclaimation project if he were to stay for the duration; we have two fairly-decent pitching coaches who could do a bad cop/good cop on a guy with potential (he didn't win 17 games with a highball) and to echo a point made by PistolPete 18 we do have some sober professionals left in the dugout who could have a positive impact. It somehow worked for Gooden and Straw, even Canseco wasn't as boisterous as you expected during his two-month bid. Ruben, anyone? Didn't work for Brown (panic move by multi-factioned FO expecting too much in a no-win situation), but what are you going to lose having him pitch one or two games on a short leash before the trade deadline?
Besides that, what if this is a chips move? If he pitches well, his value is raised just enough for someone needing to dump salary to take him on cut-rate for the rest of the season. The way I see it, it's kinda like taking a cough drop for acid reflux. Fans and opposing teams expect him to fail, but Cash has already said they don't anticipate him being the difference-maker. Relax, he's not going to poison Cano or Wang by sitting next to them; and you have to many five-ohs in the dugout to let him get that stupid. Breathe out...
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