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No Sweep For You
2006-06-01 20:51
by Cliff Corcoran

Unimpressed by the Tigers' young ace Justin Verlander, the Yankees staked Chien-Ming Wang to a 5-0 lead in the third inning last night, but the Yankee sinkerballer couldn't hold it, giving back three in the fourth and loading the bases with no outs to start the fifth. Though a Jason Giambi solo home run had increased the Yankee lead to 6-3, Joe Torre had seen enough, Yanking Wang in favor of rookie Darrell Rasner.

It was a hell of a position for Rasner to make his Yankee debut in, and somewhat reminiscent of Torre bringing in a struggling and homer-prone Javier Vazquez in a similar situation in the seventh game of the 2004 ALCS. Indeed, Magglio Ordoñez laced Rasner's first pitch into center to bring the Tigers within one, but Rasner recovered to set the next three men down in order and preserve the lead, finishing the inning by getting Omar Infante waiving at a nasty breaking ball.

The Yankees loaded the bases themselves with one out in the seventh against fireballer Joel Zumaya, but because of the injuries to Derek Jeter and Gary Sheffield, had Terrence Long and Miguel Cairo due up. Long fouled out on the first pitch he saw and Cairo grounded out to end the threat.

Scott Proctor and Fernando Rodney then traded pairs of scoreless innings, leaving it up to Kyle Farnsworth to protect the Yankees' one-run lead in the bottom of the ninth because Mariano Rivera--two days after pitching three innings in a regular season game for the first time since 1996, the third of which came with a five-run lead--strained his back putting on his spikes before the game.

Farnsworth was greeted by lead-off hitter Curtis Granderson, who worked him over for nine pitches before flying out to left. Marcus Thames did the same, but instead worked a walk, thanks in part to the small strike zone of home-plate umpire Laz Diaz. Farnsworth then got ahead of Ivan Rodriguez 0-2 on a called strike and a checked swing only to have Rodriguez yank a ball out of the dirt and into left field for a single pushing Thames to second. That man Ordoñez then poked Farnsworth's next pitch into right for an RBI single, tying the game and pushing the winning run to second with one out. Farnsworth then fell behind Carlos Guillen 3-1. Guillen sent Farnsworth's 27th pitch of the inning into right to score Rodriguez for the win, preventing a four-game Yankee sweep.

Hey, tough knocks. Whatchugonnado? The Yankees have bigger problems than taking three of four from the team with the best record in the majors. Gary Sheffield has a torn ligament and a dislocating tendon in his left wrist that, if it doesn't respond to a few weeks of therapy, will require surgery that could keep the Yankee right fielder out for the remainder of the season. Derek Jeter was useless in Tuesday's game after jamming a finger on Monday and hasn't played the last two days. The severity of Rivera's back problems is unknown, and Johnny Damon and Jorge Posada are both playing hurt, the latter's torn hamstring tendon costing the Yankees a crucial run in the seventh last night when Jorge was unable to score from second on an Andy Phillips single and was instead stranded at third by Long and Cairo.

The good news is that Damon, whose foot injury has finally been identified as a broken sesamoid bone in his right foot, is feeling better after sitting out Tuesday and Wednesday and that Jeter is expected to play against the Orioles tonight. In addition, Shawn Chacon's rehab remains on schedule with him set to make a rehab start with the Trendon Thunder on Sunday and, if all goes well then, return from the DL to start on Thursday. The Yankees are also hoping Octavio Dotel will be ready to join the team a week later following a minor league rehab assignment that's expected to begin next week.

Oh, and Bubba Crosby's recovery from his hamstring injury has been slower than expected. He's now expected back next weekend, which is at least good news for Kevin Thompson.

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2006-06-02 01:36:42
1.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Interestingly, the White Sox got mauled today also (lost a slug fest to the Indians) the end result is that the Yanks are now back in second in the best team ERA ... and still leads the AL in runs scored by a decent margin.

The Yankees have scored almost 30 more points than the Bo Sox and gave up 10 less (yes our crappy pitching gave up 10 less than the awsome Boston pitching)

Hopefully the Tigers will carry todays momentuem and sweep the next series... :P

2006-06-02 03:48:18
2.   randym77
I still think it's odd that Torre didn't put Bernie in for T-Long. Surely he "trusts" Bernie even more than Long. Was it just because it was house money day? Is he starting to lose his trust in Bernie, at least LH Bernie?
2006-06-02 03:56:29
3.   joejoejoe
Jeff Angus @ Management by Baseball linked to an interesting old NYT piece:

Pitching Experiment Debated - 'Doug Melvin is in the early stages of a plan to have relief pitchers start some minor league games, then have starters come in beginning in the third inning. "We want our starters to pitch important innings, the eighth and ninth, and not look for the bullpen," Melvin, a former minor league pitcher, said. "We want them to know it's their game. This is what we're developing them for. Some guys never see the ninth inning.' (http://tinyurl.com/p88gl)

Wouldn't this be a solid option for the Yankees staff? It allows you to mix and matchup innings 1-2 with your pen. I'm sure pitchers like Moose and Randy Johnson feel a lot better handing the ball over to Rivera in the 9th in a tight situation than Tanyon Sturtze in the seventh. Plus it gives your lowest status pitchers a little status. Handing over a mini-shutout to Moose in the third is more glamorous than a hold. I know this will never happen but I thought it was a great match for the current Yankees staff.

2006-06-02 04:00:13
4.   randym77
3 Interesting idea. What happened when they tried it? I assume the experiment wasn't successful, since it hasn't become common practice.
2006-06-02 04:11:16
5.   Shaun P
2 Even given Bernie's meager numbers vs RHP (.216/.255/.265), I still would have rather seen him up there instead of Long (.182/.270/.212 overall in 33 ABs, .192/.276/.192 in 26 ABs vs RHP, 5 singles).

I won't even mention Kevin Thompson.

On a positive note, Andy had yet another good night, even if Berman and Hershiser talked about anything but Phillips during his ABs.

2006-06-02 04:31:18
6.   randym77
Torre says Thompson will be a bench player. I could see that if playing Thompson meant benching the likes of Melky, Bubba, or Bernie, but we're talking about T-Long here.
2006-06-02 04:56:33
7.   randym77
The NY Times is saying that Mo will likely be out for the weekend. :-P

On the bright side, Damon is feeling better with the new padding and all.

2006-06-02 05:29:02
8.   rbj
Can't be too upset over the loss. Detroit's got some good hitters. Speaking of which, in that 7th inning, at least Cairo had some good hacks, missing a couple of potential base clearing doubles by a milimeter off the bat. Long, however, swings at the first pitch (man I hate that, especially with a guy you haven't seen yet that night) and pops up.

And now Mo's hurting too.

2006-06-02 05:40:32
9.   Sliced Bread
6 points, Cliff, for the "yanking Wang" line.

Tough night for ol' Farnswacker. Gets squeezed by the ump, before handing his lunch money over to that bully Pudge Mags, the Tigers equivalent of Manny Ortez. Happens to the best of 'em.

Speaking of which, Mo gets the "Pavano Of The Week" bronzed-buttock trophy for tweaking his back while tying his shoes.

The Yanks are so plagued by injuries even their fans are getting hurt in stupid ways.

I sprained my left ankle the other night, jumping up to grab a broken tree branch in my flip flops. Slipped and rolled it good upon landing. Worst thing about it was my wife tried to stop me before I jumped, which gave her every right to laugh her ass off as I limped across the front lawn cursing my stupidity and misfortune.

2006-06-02 05:53:55
10.   bp1
9 "Pavano of the Week Bronzed Buttock". Too freaking funny, in a morbid sort of way.

A-Rod must be looking over his shoulder every day, waiting for the next shoe to drop.

Meanwhile, Terrance Long will probably be the last healthy man standing. TLong in the field and Proctor on the mound, and a mixture of sandlot rejects rounding out the squad. Wow.

BP

2006-06-02 05:54:56
11.   joejoejoe
4 I don't know the results.

It's not that radical an idea. Managers make out lineups for batters in advance based on percentages and rest, why not make out lineups for pitchers based on the same principles? It's got to be better for the mental state of your middle relievers to know you will pitch in a game when it counts, even if it's 0-0 in the first inning. Starters might like the boost to their W-L record as well. All the scavanged wins would revert to the delayed starter. If Farnworth hands over a 6 run deficit to Randy Johnson then Johnson can't get the loss. But RJ could get the win in a Yankee comeback.

2006-06-02 05:59:00
12.   Sliced Bread
10 Speaking of morbid, I'm thinking Gene Monahan and his team of trainers should swipe a page out of Dr. Frankenstein's playbook and use Terrence Long for parts, you know, a wrist for Sheff, foot for Damon, buttock for Pavano etc.
2006-06-02 06:21:44
13.   bp1
12 Heh heh heh .... poor Terrance (Terry?).

(sigh)

Gonna be a challenging season. Wonder what impact this will have on Sheff's option for next year. I like Melky, but it's nice to have a bit of thump in the lineup, if nothing more than to add stress to the opposing pitcher.

Ah well. Whattyagonnado? This is going to be a weird season. Nothing else to do but enjoy the ride and hope for the best. I'd sure like to see Andy Phillips jerk out out of Camden Yards with authority this weekend, just to show us he can.

BP

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2006-06-02 06:36:14
14.   Knuckles
9
Sliced, I hear ya. The Yanks injuries have emanated thru the TV and radio and felled me as well. Crashed my bike riding to work yesterday and tiwsted my knee up pretty good (and busted the pedals on the bike). I am out of commission for a bit, and next week probably will put myself on the 15-day DL, retroactive to June 1.
2006-06-02 06:45:10
15.   jervo
Terence Long: 0 for 5, 9 men LOB. 'nuff said.
2006-06-02 07:11:34
16.   Dimelo
15 jervo, I agree. I blame this loss first to T-Long and 2nd to Farnswhacker. What Cano and Phillips were doing in front of Tee Ball Long (cause I doubt he can even hit a Tee Ball) was really nice to watch, but then Tee Ball Long came to bat and my delight was overtaken by a turd with a wooden bat.

Question, who would we rather see: T-Long or Sierra?

2006-06-02 07:24:14
17.   Cliff Corcoran
9 That was purely unintentional.
2006-06-02 07:26:06
18.   Cliff Corcoran
16 That's like choosing if I'd rather be shot or stabbed.
2006-06-02 07:36:57
19.   Sliced Bread
6 points to Dimelo for "T-Ball Long." Nice.

minus 1 pernt for Cliff's inadvertent Wang joke.

however, 1 bonus pernt for his "shot or stabbed" response to the Sierra or Long question.

Ok, I'll stop keeping score now. Can Fairpole calculate it automatically?

2006-06-02 08:02:57
20.   jdrennan
You forgot to mention that Giambi went the other way not once, but twice in the same game. Once for a HR. May be that he's on track to start breaking the shift.
2006-06-02 08:04:57
21.   rbj
I got home right as Wang was, er, getting pulled, so what's the scoop. Another example of pitching well with no one one but melting when there was a baserunner or not locating his pitches or just good hitting by the Tigers or something else.
2006-06-02 08:12:20
22.   bp1
21 I think it was just one of those nights for Wang. He relies on getting guys to hit ground balls, and sometimes they going to find holes in the defense. There are also going to be games, and indeed innings, where his pitches stay up and hitters will sting the ball with more authority. I think that is the nature of the beast with him. He never seems "unhittable". It's just that some nights the batters never get good wood on the ball, but seldom do they walk back to the dugout shaking their heads.

BP

2006-06-02 08:14:38
23.   Levy2020
Since I always knock Torre when the bullpen is misused, I say points for good use last night! Yes, Farnsworth lost the game, but I think it's still the right move as were Rasner and Proctor.
2006-06-02 08:15:29
24.   randym77
Wang was pitching well. They got some lucky hits. And then he melted down on the mound, as he often does with runners on. I really think it's mostly mental. He always looks so calm and unreadable, it's easy to forget that this is his first full season in the majors.

I think he'll be a solid pitcher once he gains some experience and maturity, but right now, he doesn't deal with adversity all that well.

2006-06-02 08:21:19
25.   kylepetterson
23 - agreed. Farns lost the game, not Torre
2006-06-02 08:26:47
26.   JL25and3
I thought Torre's decision to take out Rasner when he did was basically indefensible, and it set up the problems that followed. Consider:

- The kid had pitched well after the single, and he'd only thrown 22 pitches.

- Two out, bases empty in the sixth - is that a situation where you really need to use your LOOGY?

- Mo is out for who knows how long. Wang's out in the fourth. This weekend's starters - Wright, Johnson and Small - have been averaging about 5 innings a start for the last few weeks.

Joe can't keep using Proctor and Farnsworth at the brutal pace he has been. Given the circumstances, it was just foolish to burn a pitcher on one batter when the game wasn't on the line. At some point he's got to let his long relievers pitch long relief, or he's going to kill the rest of the bullpen. If he doesn't trust Erickson or Rasner enough to let them pitch, then for god's sake get rid of them and try someone else - that's the whole point of replacement level pitchers, right?

2006-06-02 08:34:05
27.   pistolpete
1 "Hopefully the Tigers will carry todays momentum and sweep the next series... :P "

Yes, it was all a master plan to lose last night in dramatic fashion so the Tigers would go into the Boston series on a high. MUHAHAHAHAHAHA...

What, nothin'?

2006-06-02 08:34:05
28.   Cliff Corcoran
26 Agreed. It didn't cost them the game, but it didn't make a lick of sense. A one-run game could easily have gone extras, why take out a long man in the sixth when he's set down five men in order and why burn any pitcher, even a LOOGY against an almost all-righty team, with two outs and no one on against a lead-off hitter? Rasner should have pitched longer, which would have meant fewer if any innings for Proctor.

My only hope is that they're holding Rasner back to start in Small's place on Sunday, but that's just a fantasy.

2006-06-02 08:39:42
29.   JeremyM
Maybe I'm an idiot, but what is with the poor diagnosis of injuries in the Yankees organization? They just now found out what was wrong with Damon and Sheffield? It sounds to me like Sheffield should've never been brought back, or is this a new injury to the same general area? I can't help but think that they should've let the first injury heal fully, or did Sheffield "Sturtze" it just to get back out there.
And there has to be something wrong with Long that is going undiagnosed-the guy can't be that bad, can he:) Yeah, Farnsworth and/or Wang should've nailed it down but you can't discount the big 0 for 5 with completely worthless and clueless at-bats.
2006-06-02 08:40:12
30.   pistolpete
28 I think Joe might have Dotel in the back of his mind, why else would he be using Proctor & Fanrsworth with such reckless abandon...?

Anyone know if Mendoza's still doing well?

2006-06-02 08:41:55
31.   JeremyM
OK this is from the Post. I realize he has to support his team but this still makes me retch, and I'm not talking about the Bernie stuff: "To me, I trust Bernie and I think I trust T-Long,'' Torre said. "I like the way [Long] has played. I know [Cashman] burns the wire but I don't think we need to [make a trade].''
2006-06-02 08:42:26
32.   JL25and3
A nice thought, Cliff, and an interesting one. But if that were true, then Small should have come in last night to eat a couple of innings. Again, if you're going to have these guys on your roster, at some point you've got to use them.
2006-06-02 08:42:42
33.   pistolpete
29 Could be because players are afraid to get hurt in this town without being ripped to shreds by the fans and the media. They're also an inherent pressure that goes along with playing for the Yankees - the type of pressure that enormous contracts will put on you to try & play through anything- as well as NOT let on what's really bothering you.

My theory, anyway.

2006-06-02 08:42:53
34.   Shaun P
26 28 My guess is that Torre said to himself, "Well Granderson is the only lefty hitter they have of any note, and that's why I've got Myers, to get lefties . . ."

It made no sense to take out Rasner, for Myers to do his LOOGY thing - and Proctor to pitch 2.3 innings. What happened to resting him some?

23 25 I liked not seeing Erickson. But, as JL25and3 and Cliff pointed out, it was not very good bullpen management by Torre last night, though the personnel were right on.

Farnsworth should have been able to close things out. That said, couldn't last night be counted at least partialy as a "Torre loss"? Twice T-Ball Long came up with men on base with the game close, and twice he failed miserably. Torre not pinch hitting for him in the 9th, even with GOB, was inexcusable.

2006-06-02 08:45:24
35.   Shaun P
29 33 Don't forget that Sheff's still-not-picked-up option may be influencing things, too.
2006-06-02 08:45:42
36.   randym77
Batting average splits for Wang, from ESPN:

Nobody on: .201
Runners on: .358
Runners in scoring postion: .375
Bases loaded: .400

I didn't understand pulling Rasner, either. He was starting at Columbus, wasn't he? He could have eaten up some innings.

2006-06-02 08:47:14
37.   Dimelo
23 & 25 I defend Torre quite a bit around these parts, but every time T-Ball Long came up to bat I started blaming Torre more-and-more as T-Ball Long kept leaving more men on base.

I think Steve Lombardi sums it pretty well at WasWatching:
Yanks had a runner on 2nd in the 2nd with one out and could not score him. Yanks had runners on 1st and 2nd in the 5th with no outs and could not score a run. Yanks had the bases loaded in the 7th with one out and could not score. And, in the 9th, the Yankees had runners on 1st and 2nd - albeit with 2 outs - and did not score.

In all of these situations - 2nd inning, 5th inning, 7th inning and 9th inning, Terrence Long was at the plate with a chance to do something and made outs.

2006-06-02 08:47:33
38.   randym77
29 It's a new injury. Possibly related to the previous one, but it's in a different spot, and is a different injury. I think maybe they rushed Sheff back too soon.
2006-06-02 08:49:04
39.   rbj
34
In close (2-3 runs) and late (7th inning or later) there must be a pinch hitter for Long. Three straight hits off Zummy and Long pops up on the first pitch? He hasn't shown patience or the ability to even get a ground ball to get a runner in. Grrr. Still, I put it as a Farnsy loss. Up by one with two outs to go & no one on, you have to close the deal.

Thanks 22 & 24 I like CMW, he does seem unflappable, just hope he gets better.

2006-06-02 08:50:41
40.   yankaholic
Whats strange abt Wang with men on base is.. he is a pitcher RELYING on DP grnd balls.. so shudnt he get confident with men on base... i mean i cant seem to get it..

the guy pitches DP balls well.. so why does he gets woozy with men on base..

2006-06-02 08:51:25
41.   RI Yankee
Not that this has anything to do with anything, but has anyone seen this:

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Could this be a whole new curse?

2006-06-02 09:02:40
42.   JL25and3
On WFAN yesterday, Torre was talking about how impressed he is with Long. Joe likes his attitude, he likes his professionalism, he likes him in the clubhouse. LIttle things like, y'know, hitting and fielding and stuff don't really seem to matter much.

33 Sheffield's never given a damn about what fans, press or anyone else in the world thinks. That's one of the things that makes him such a charming fellow.

2006-06-02 09:06:00
43.   dianagramr
Of course, I had drafted Farnsworthless in my roto league figuring Rivera could possibly go down at some point in the year, and then DROPPED Farns two weeks ago when I needed the roster spot for more critical starting pitching.

[No Wangs were Yanked in the making of this post.]

2006-06-02 09:06:22
44.   Shaun P
41 If the Orioles/their fans think that drafting Jeffrey Maier will turn that franchise around, they're even more hopeless than Kansas City. Maier was the least of their problems that series in October 1996, and since then as well.

I suppose it does make for a good story, though.

2006-06-02 09:08:44
45.   Shaun P
43 That Wang joke was below the belt, diana.
2006-06-02 09:14:57
46.   Sliced Bread
14 Feel better, Knuckles. If you go on the DL now, you can have one of Long's knees. The bike pedals you'll have to replace yourself.
2006-06-02 09:23:10
47.   randym77
From the NY Daily News:

>> It appears that this injury is not directly related to the previous one. Cashman said there was "nothing missed" on any of Sheffield's previous MRI exams and that this injury came from simply "playing baseball." <<

2006-06-02 09:23:35
48.   Alex Belth
I know I sound like a broken record, but I guess I just don't get Kyle Farnsworth. The home plate ump was squeezing the pitchers last night for sure, but after a long lead off at bat, and then a real battle with Thames, I thought Farnsworth was still in the driver's seat. He goes to 3-2 vs. Thames, on all fastballs. Farnsworth was behind in the count 3-1 and then kept pumping in the heaters. Thames fouled at least two of 'em off. So I'm thinking, a hacker like Thames--now here is the time to make him look silly with a slider. Instead, Farnsworth missed with an outside fastball.

Pudge is next and he throws him two good sliders. One for a called strike, the next one in the dirt that Pudge couldn't hold up on. Ok, so I'm thinking, throw him the gas now. But he goes back to another slider. It wasn't a terrible pitch but Pudge wasn't born yesterday and he loops it for a basehit.

It just seems that Farnsworth or Posada's thinking is screwy. But what do I know? I'm just some frustrated fan sitting on my ass at home. In light of the bad news regard Sheff, and the unfortunate development with Mariano, it was a stupid game to lose. Yeah, 3 of 4 is better than I expected in Detroit, but hey, with that kind of lead that's an unfortunate loss last night.

2006-06-02 09:25:46
49.   Alex Belth
But if the hitters came through with a couple of key hits last night, it never would have come down to a stupid Farnsworth, so it's not like you can pin the blame strictly on him. Wang wasn't much of a help either.
2006-06-02 09:28:20
50.   randym77
I think it's Posada who's calling the pitches, not Farnsworth. I haven't seen Farnsy shaking Posada off much, anyway.

I don't think Jorgie understands this pitcher.