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Stand and Deliver
2006-05-20 09:41
by Alex Belth

Last winter, the Yankees got Randy Johnson to be their stud, big-game pitcher and the Mets signed Pedro Martinez to be their star attraction. At this stage, Martinez has lived up to the billing. Every time he takes the mound it is an event, in large part because of his natural showbiz charm. I think Johnson will eventually pitch much better than he has, but the fact is he couldn't hold a 4-0 first inning lead last night.

Pedro hasn't been dominant in his last couple of outings but you have to figure he'd hold a four run lead against this Yankee line up in a National League park. Bernie and Farnsworth are unavailable today. Kevin Reese is getting the start. Believe that. How fired up is Pedro? On National TV. He'll bring the drama, baby.

Mussina has been the Yankees' best pitcher this year by far. He's far less emotional than Pedro but he's a tremendous pitcher on a hot streak. With Aaron Small--whose golden goose has likely turned back into a pumpkin already--going tomorrow night against Glavine, today is key for the Bombers. They've had more than reasonable success against Martinez over the years. But you gotta like the Mets bullpen right now. Tough game. Just got to hope they keep it together with the leather and that Moose can give them 7-8 innings. They'll get some runs.

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2006-05-20 09:56:20
1.   Benjamin Kabak
Re: RJ eventually pitching better.

I like your optimism, Alex, but until someone other than Will Carroll notices that Randy seems to pitching hurt, I don't think we're going to see much improvement from the Unit. His mechanics are way off kilter and he's getting rocked in every start.

2006-05-20 10:01:28
2.   Benjamin Kabak
Also, it seems that Miguel Cairo is batting sixth and playing left field. That means no Bernie, but it also means no Posada.

Where's Enrique Wilson, the Yanks' secret weapon against Pedro, when you need him?

2006-05-20 10:01:40
3.   Alex Belth
Yeah, I mean if that guy is really throwing at 94/87 he should have success. Something is totally out of whack, but I guess I have faith in him only because he's a Hall of Famer and has a lot of pride. But it could be like Lefty Carlton and the guy is just starting to lose it. I could see it either way, but I still have confidence that he can compete better than he has.
2006-05-20 10:01:48
4.   randym77
According to the posted lineup, Reese isn't getting the start. Cairo is.

Johnny Damon CF
Derek Jeter SS
Jason Giambi 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Canó 2B
Miguel Cairo LF
Melky Cabrera RF
Kelly Stinnett C
Mike Mussina P

2006-05-20 10:02:26
5.   Alex Belth
This line up is comical. Ozsocar anybody? Homer Bush?
2006-05-20 10:04:02
6.   randym77
Someone said Colter Bean has been called up, to take Farnsworth's place.
2006-05-20 10:04:26
7.   Alex Belth
1-5 is tremendous. 6-9, and I like Mussina.
2006-05-20 10:05:01
8.   Alex Belth
It's funny, just hearing that about Bean sounds like a UFO sighting.
2006-05-20 10:08:25
9.   Simone
After Cano, the line up is just so sad.
2006-05-20 10:09:02
10.   Ravenscar
Please god what have we done to deserve FOX for this exciting game? I'm going to have to see what kind of delay there is between the radio and the TV to mute the latter.

I'm going to be the non-irritating Met fan here today. Mostly because I can't bear to go through the BTF registration process.

2006-05-20 10:11:46
11.   Alex Belth
Met and Yankee fans alike are welcome here. Yeah, McCarver and Buck. Buckle in.
2006-05-20 10:13:29
12.   Simone
My best friend is a Met fan so I know for a fact that not all of you are irritating:) Welcome.
2006-05-20 10:14:16
13.   Alex Belth
Hey Ravenscar,
As a Met fan, I know Izzy stuck Wright out earlier this week in a big spot, but weren't you kind of pysched when they walked Delgado to get to him last night?
2006-05-20 10:18:20
14.   Ravenscar
FOX's X-men/baseball promotion is throwing me into a Wolverine-like rage.
2006-05-20 10:18:42
15.   Benjamin Kabak
That X-Men promo thing was AWFUL. Fox should lose its MLB contract over that.
2006-05-20 10:21:25
16.   Ravenscar
Alex -

To be dead honest, personally, yes with a "but". Wright has looked PRONE to slumping, like he's pressing a bit with all the pressure. His power numbers are down and that at-bat against Izzy was PAINNNNNful. But watching that hit knowing that the placement of Damon was shallow was very sweet.

I called a Yankees fan last night and waxed eloquent on the sound of the torch being passed from one NY dreamboat infielder to another.

2006-05-20 10:22:28
17.   SF Yanks
Anybody know why I can't get this game on Fox, EI, MLB, or anything else for that matter? I guess living in San Francisco has something to do with it?
2006-05-20 10:23:02
18.   randym77
I miss Michael Kay already. o_O
2006-05-20 10:25:53
19.   bloodyank78
17 I'm in SoCal and I cannot get zilch. Looks like a fun morning/afternoon of watching gamecast on my laptop.
2006-05-20 10:26:57
20.   Simone
That is what you get for booing the Captain. Ha.
2006-05-20 10:27:19
21.   Ravenscar
Ahhhh Floyd never makes that error. Bummer.
2006-05-20 10:27:33
22.   randym77
Oh, man. And I was afraid it was going to be Cairo doing something like that...
2006-05-20 10:29:40
23.   Benjamin Kabak
3 Not that Sturtze and the Unit are ever comparable, but Tanyon had no drop in velocity either. He just couldn't finish his pitches. That seems to be RJ's problem right now too. No movement on the fastball and no location on the slider.
2006-05-20 10:31:59
24.   Ravenscar
Well, the TV delay is about two seconds behind WFAN, which pretty much ruined the drama of that pretty strikeout. I'll have to suffer through these guys, I guess.
2006-05-20 10:35:35
25.   randym77
Another error for A-Rod. Sigh.
2006-05-20 10:35:39
26.   Ravenscar
This is why we love Reyes - but no love from the scorer for us OR you.
2006-05-20 10:35:39
27.   JeremyM
Bean has been called up I see. What was the corresponding move?
2006-05-20 10:36:49
28.   BklynBmr
19 NoCal here. Same thing. Cartoons on FOX. I, too, miss Michael Kay...
2006-05-20 10:37:29
29.   Simone
Nice throw, Stinnet.
2006-05-20 10:39:00
30.   Ravenscar
Matsui's only allowed 1 RBI every two weeks. And no, I'm not a Kaz-hater.
2006-05-20 10:39:18
31.   rbj
Man, cut right to the chance on making an error, no need to wait until the 3rd or 4th inning.
And I really don't give a rat's patooie about the Chicago game. Grrrr.
2006-05-20 10:40:07
32.   randym77
I heard Jones is going down to make room for Bean.
2006-05-20 10:41:49
33.   Ravenscar
Buck: "...whether it's Joe Torre, or..... -pause- ...any manager in the National league."

What, couldn't think of anybody?

2006-05-20 10:41:49
34.   claybeez
Yeah, we don't need Jones when we have Cairo in the OF depth chart.
2006-05-20 10:43:35
35.   randym77
Poor guy. If this report is true, he barely arrived in NY in time to get to Shea last night, and now he's headed back to Columbus.
2006-05-20 10:44:21
36.   Simone
Poor Johnny Damon.
2006-05-20 10:45:03
37.   rbj
Um, Fox, why did you just show a MLB promo featuring Pedro, when he is pitching today and I can't get the freakin' game?!
2006-05-20 10:45:46
38.   unmoderated
jones didnt even get his cup of coffee, just an equal packet and the bill for pavano's surgery.
2006-05-20 10:45:56
39.   BklynBmr
How about backing up the OF a few steps?
2006-05-20 10:46:07
40.   Ravenscar
Watching David Wright play actually makes me understand some of the Yankee fans I've had problems with over the years, as I can see now what it was like to be watching Jeter develop. Damn he's fun to watch.

Didn't really look like a bad jump by Damon there, just hit too hard and too far. Thoughts?

2006-05-20 10:46:49
41.   jayd
27 Alas Mitch Jones, we never knew ye. Colter Bean replacing Farnsworth? I think he takes a start for Chacon and becomes long relief for Johnson and Small (if he fails). And what a line from Torre to Cashman: "What kind of team are you giving me?" Whoa. Anybody feel a major trade/acquisition on the horizon?
2006-05-20 10:48:08
42.   JeremyM
Torre really said that? Way to instill any confidence in the new guys.
2006-05-20 10:50:19
43.   singledd
Is Farns on the DL?

I know the idea last night was to play the outfield in for a play at the play. But Damons arms is so weak, short of being on the infield dirt, he's not throwing anyone out.

It sounds like hindsight, but Damon should be playing deeper. Playing based on 'throwing someone out' for Damon is not realistic.

2006-05-20 10:50:50
44.   BklynBmr
41 Something huge has to be the in the works, maybe including a offer Rocket can't refuse to get here yesterday. Yanks are at a distinct disadvantage in the trade market, they'll need to take a fat contract off of someones hands. But who?
2006-05-20 10:52:20
45.   jayd
42 ap article here: http://tinyurl.com/km33m
2006-05-20 10:54:59
46.   Zack
Does Joe really think that Cairo in left field is better than Reese?
2006-05-20 10:55:10
47.   singledd
I'm for a 'trade', but truth is the kids have been doing OK. Giambi and ARod are slumping, which is hurting use more then Mats and Shef being out.

I really like ARod, but for whatever reason, when he feels pressure he plays poorly. I don't want to speak of 'clutch' or 'choke' but some guys step up to pressure (Jeter). ARod, at this point, can't.

This is NOT a slam on ARod, and does not ignor all the great stuff he has done... but I think it's obvious that he has trouble with pressure... mostly self-imposed.

For one, I would bat him 5th.

Damon
Cano
Jetes
Giambi
ARod
... whatever

2006-05-20 10:55:14
48.   Ravenscar
Who the hell owned that Helen Reddy song and allowed Burger King to turn it into an ad for men? My mother's probably destroying the TV with her softball bat right now.
2006-05-20 10:55:34
49.   rbj
45 I think it was meant in jest, though there is a hint of frustration there:
'The rash of injuries prompted manager Joe Torre to seek out general manager Brian Cashman, seated next to the Yankees' dugout at Shea Stadium.

"I went over to him during the game last night and said, 'What kind of club are you giving me?"' Torre said. "He didn't know if I was serious or not."
"It became almost comical," Torre said. "You shrug your shoulders at it." '

2006-05-20 10:55:49
50.   Zack
Oh yeah, and thank you Fox for blacking out this game on mlb.tv (and I can't even seem to use the proxy thing this year), yet they aren't even showing ANY game here in soCal. I hate Fox so much, at least let me watch A game instead of cartoons!
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2006-05-20 10:57:30
51.   Zack
Except that to Joe, this is the team of hell for him. He can barely find vets to play, and gasp, might have to go to a kid in the pen, though knowing Joe he will throw Erickson and Proctor out there until they litterally collapse...He may throw Bean out there in a no win situation just to prove that he can't cut it
2006-05-20 10:57:32
52.   singledd
50 At least on Gameday, you don't have to hear Buck and Tim. Although they would be good narrating cartoons.
2006-05-20 11:00:27
53.   rbj
Ooh, big fight in Chicago
2006-05-20 11:05:12
54.   rbj
Pierz. ran right into the Cubs catcher who was standing up to receive the throw from left field. So far it's a clean play, but then Pierz slammed on the plate. Cub catcher Barrett took exception and clocked him one. Right cross. Dugouts emptied, more punches thrown.
2006-05-20 11:05:14
55.   Simone
Wow, Chicago fight. What a hit from Barrett.
2006-05-20 11:05:53
56.   Ravenscar
Hmmm.... everyone see that clip? Barrett should learn from Johjima last night and just do his damned job without being such a baby.
2006-05-20 11:05:55
57.   claybeez
47 I think those of us who are disappointed in Alex's performance need not be so apologetic. He's a real talent, but he is not playing like it right now. And let's face it, while he may be one of the best overall players to have played, lots of us have a sense of unease when we see him need to perform in big moments. Maybe it's not as quantifiable as some like things to be - but it is real. I look forward to the day when I can enjoy his appearance in a crucial situation.
2006-05-20 11:07:48
58.   claybeez
56 Did you see Johjima's face though after the play? Made me wonder if plays at the plate are done differently in Japan.
2006-05-20 11:08:02
59.   Ravenscar
Moose and Damon doing a good job driving up Pedro's pitch count.
2006-05-20 11:09:09
60.   wsporter
56 Who knows what Perzynski said to him, but yeah he needs to put the mask back on and get behind the plate. Some clean shot to the jaw though.

Buck is such a holier than thou pain in the ass. Volume down.

2006-05-20 11:10:13
61.   Ravenscar
Johjima simply said that the players are sorta bigger here. But there's a big difference between looking pissed and throwing a punch. I heard the throw from Ichiro was incredible, I'd love to see that replay.

That kick would be a foul in basketball.

2006-05-20 11:10:40
62.   Simone
That was Derek's walk.
2006-05-20 11:12:00
63.   Ravenscar
Whoa.

That was a pitch.

2006-05-20 11:12:01
64.   Simone
Ugh.
2006-05-20 11:12:47
65.   jayd
We had a big abreu vs. torii hunter discussion the other day. Upshot being that no one liked Torii Hunter (except me) and that Abreu would cost too much to get in terms of players (a wang move to make, if you get my drift).

Can't believe how this lineup has been decimated. I'm really worried about Posada and bereft over the loss of Bubba. Bubba was making his move at the plate, too.

Pitching I'm more sanguine about. There's alot of leeway and choices to be made. RJ's falter here makes the rocket's red glare over NY more of a certainty and in terms of theatre, I love it. RJ and the Rocket in October will be a beautiful thing.

With all our problems, the lack of either Toronto (the real threat) or the hopeless Rsox to make hay is the true story of the season so far.

2006-05-20 11:14:43
66.   claybeez
61 For sure there's a big difference. Just coomenting on the shocked, pissed llok in his eyes. And Ichiro's throw was MONEY. Hit the catcher in the mitt on the fly about a step or two before the runner got there...and, it wasn't exactly shallow right.
2006-05-20 11:16:43
67.   wsporter
Oh that just looks silly.
2006-05-20 11:17:37
68.   claybeez
The pitching problems worry me as I think the FO is more likely to make a desperation move if RJ or another SP has to go on the DL.

And what about this potential Hidalgo signing? Any thoughts?

2006-05-20 11:17:52
69.   Alex Belth
The Cubs fight is great. AJ is all WWF. Chicago's rivalry hotter than NYs? That's awesome!

Dude, Pedro's whiff of Jeter was clasic. 3-0, throws a strike, challenges him up and out of the zone, swinging strike two. And then blows a fastball, up in the zone, questionably a strike, and gets his swinging again. Yanks have made him throw pitches. The plan is to keep it close.

C'mon Moose.

2006-05-20 11:19:32
70.   Alex Belth
Bottom of the third: Way to go Moose.
2006-05-20 11:23:23
71.   Oscar Azocar
5 Alex, you're hurting my feelings...sniff-sniff

Ahhh, those were the days, when Espinoza and I were the, ahem, run-producers in the lineup.

I thought that this game would be way out of hand by now the way it started. Kudos to Moose for hanging tough. He may need to drive in some runs himself.

2006-05-20 11:24:49
72.   Simone
I'm impressed Barrett got two of the Cubs' players. He actually threw a punch. We don't see that often. I wonder what the obnoxious Pierzynski said to Barrett.
2006-05-20 11:27:25
73.   Ravenscar
Nice catch, David! Damn.
2006-05-20 11:27:43
74.   jayd
I'm surprised Pedro didn't plunk Cano for the sheer chutzpah of calling time while he was about to pitch. He has mellowed.
2006-05-20 11:33:01
75.   Ravenscar
A lot of people were actually upset on the Mets' sites when we lost Petit for Delgado.

Those people have kind of shut up since the start of the year.

2006-05-20 11:51:03
76.   Mattpat11
I have a headache.
2006-05-20 11:53:36
77.   randym77
They seem a bit flat today.
2006-05-20 11:55:48
78.   JeremyM
Pedro is up to 82 pitches and the top of the order is up. It's time to make a move.
2006-05-20 11:56:17
79.   Mattpat11
Well, this game is in the shitter.

Anyone else as excited as me for the return of Veronica Mars?

2006-05-20 11:56:53
80.   JeremyM
Or not.
2006-05-20 11:57:26
81.   Rob Gee
My wife says: "Are you kidding me, they're talking about hair styles!?"

My thoughts exactly. What the fuck?

2006-05-20 11:57:33
82.   JeremyM
I'm looking forward to the Lost finale as well as the last 2 Sopranos of the year. And the game 7s in the NBA coming up.
2006-05-20 11:58:41
83.   randym77
81 I couldn't believe that. Good gravy.
2006-05-20 11:59:41
84.   JeremyM
Well Rob, it's strange. When people watch baseball, they really don't want to hear about baseball. Actually, they don't want to watch it either. They're tuned it to see countless cuts to any celebrities in the stands, shots of random fans, a talking cartoon baseball, and a million shots of the guys on the bench. Anything but the game.
2006-05-20 11:59:51
85.   Benjamin Kabak
If Tim McCarver and Joe Buck never had to talk again, I would be happy. I can't stand these guys.
2006-05-20 12:01:42
86.   Mattpat11
82 They've been in a holding pattern with the Sorpanos for like five episodes. I hope they start moving tomorrow.
2006-05-20 12:02:15
87.   Ravenscar
Buck just said "Fire sale part 'trois'" regarding the Marlins, and you KNOW he meant part two. How does this man have this job?
2006-05-20 12:02:48
88.   Benjamin Kabak
Well, at least Buck was making some sense with his talk on the problems with the Marlins and the revenue sharing system.
2006-05-20 12:03:43
89.   Mattpat11
I feel bad for Mussina. Another great game, and if not for the Keystone Kops, it would be better
2006-05-20 12:06:07
90.   jayd
79 ye of little faith. don't listen to those fox announcers.
2006-05-20 12:06:28
91.   Simone
Alex getting the rally started.
2006-05-20 12:07:49
92.   Simone
Or not.
2006-05-20 12:08:15
93.   SF Yanks
This is our last chance. Ain't happening in the 8th or 9th.
2006-05-20 12:09:28
94.   Rob Gee
Cairo is hitting sixth today.

It just needed to be said, again.

And Scott Erickson is getting loose in the pen!

2006-05-20 12:09:45
95.   tommyl
Don't worry Cairo always hits well of Pedro, that's why he's in the game, right? :)
2006-05-20 12:10:17
96.   Benjamin Kabak
I gotta say: I'm getting REAL sick of Joe Torre using Scott Erickson in close games.

Scott Erickson should be the MOP UP man, MAYBE. MAYBE. He shouldn't even be on this team. But Joe's going to trot him out there in a close game. Brilliant.

2006-05-20 12:10:32
97.   tommyl
Colter Bean, bring in Colter Bean!
2006-05-20 12:10:44
98.   Rob Gee
Shouuld we see Jorge here?
2006-05-20 12:11:39
99.   Benjamin Kabak
98 Sounds like Jorge is unavailable.
2006-05-20 12:11:49
100.   tommyl
At least Melky is hitting
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2006-05-20 12:12:32
101.   jayd
"the only hard hit ball of the day" yeah right. what the fuck was the line drive cano hit that doubled up arod. moron.
2006-05-20 12:12:37
102.   jayd
"the only hard hit ball of the day" yeah right. what the fuck was the line drive cano hit that doubled up arod. moron.