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Roll With It

2008-04-30 11:47

by Cliff Corcoran

Chris Stewart's Yankee debut didn't go s'good last night. He went 0-for-3 at the plate with a strikeout and was repeatedly crossed up by Phil Hughes, resulting in two passed balls. Fortunately, Chad Moeller cleared waivers and has been reinstated on the 25-man roster, forcing Stewart back to Scranton (and off the 40-man via a DFA, though the move hasn't been announced yet). Meanwhile, Chris Britton, who was optioned yesterday, was recalled today following Ross Ohlendorf's 3 1/3-inning outing last night (Alex Rodriguez hitting the DL allows the Yankees to skip the ten-day rule). Of course, Britton could be back on the Scranton shuttle after Ian Kennedy's start tomorrow, as Wilson Betemit is now eligible to come off the DL just in time to fill the hole at his natural position of third base. Chad Jennings reports that Betemit is scheduled to join the Scranton team for a rehab assignment tomorrow.

Andy Pettitte will look to ease the strain on the pen tonight. In his last start he lasted just five innings against the Indians, turning in his worst outing of the year. The Tigers righty-heavy lineup would seem to be a bad match for Pettitte. Indeed, Andy's been hell on lefties in the early going, but righties have been doing well against him. The thing is, that's unusual. On his career, Pettitte has almost no platoon split at all and when he does have one it tends to be a reverse split. Andy pitched a gem in his only outing against Detroit last year (8 IP, 5 H, 1 R). I'd expect some bounce back tonight.

Opposing Andy will be Jeremy Bonderman. Bonderman feels like he's been around forever at this point--as the first-round high school draft pick that steeled Billy Beane's resolve to draft college arms in the "Moneyball" draft, as a key player in the three-team Jeff Weaver/Ted Lilly/Carlos Peña trade, as a 19-game loser on the 113-loss 2003 Tigers team, and as a perennial breakout candidate who still hasn't made that leap--but he's still just 25. Bonderman improved steadily from 2003 to 2006, but last year he fell apart in conjunction with the Tigers' second-half slide that I mentioned in my series preview (first 18 starts: 10-1, 3.53; last ten starts: 1-8 8.23). A sore elbow was the culprit, but he was shut down in early September and expected to make a full recovery over the winter. In the early going, however, he's been maddeningly inconsistent, failing to turn in a single quality start in five outings and pitching inefficiently, with just 58 percent of his pitches going for strikes on the season. Bonderman struck out just ten men in his first four starts (22 2/3 innings) before striking out seven Rangers in 4 2/3 in his last start, but after walking 8 in his first 17 2/3 innings he's now walked 13 in his last 9 2/3. It doesn't bode well for Bonderman that the Yankees drew eight walks of his teammates last night. Also worth noting: while Bonderman has kept his ERA at a respectable 4.28, he has five unearned runs on his ledger already, giving him a 5.93 RA (run average).

Alberto Gonzalez starts in place of Morgan Ensberg at third base tonight. Melky "Got Homers" Cabrera moves up to the sixth spot, ahead of the struggling Robinson Cano, catcher Jose Molina, and Gonzalez.

Update: Stewart was optioned, but not designated for assignment. Rather, to make room for Moeller on the 40-man, Sean Henn, who had been pitching well on rehab assignment with Scranton, was DFAed. Chad Jennings has some reaction to the move.

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2008-04-30 13:46:30

1. pistolpete

I like that Gonzalez is playing - Ensberg seems to have fallen into the same bad habits as some of the other regulars, so I'd rather him get a break.

His arm from waaaaaayyy over at third makes me nervous too.

2008-04-30 13:53:48

2. Cliff Corcoran

1 With regards to Ensberg's defense, he has played 626 major league games at third base and has a dead average fielding percentage and better-than-average range factor and Rate. There's no reason to worry about his play at the hot corner, though he's going to look bad compared to Rodriguez if only because Rodriguez has such a strong arm and is taller and generally more athletic. (Ensberg is listed as 6'2" -- there's no way he's that tall. No way.)

2008-04-30 13:58:12

3. monkeypants

I'd like to see a Betemit/Ensberg platoon at 3B, or even an Betemit/Gonzalez platoon if they decide to go with AG.

2008-04-30 13:59:12

4. pistolpete

2 That's probably what it is - re: A-Rod – Alex makes it look so damn easy, anyone else looks like they're struggling to get it over there.

2008-04-30 14:42:25

5. Shaun P

In any case, Ensberg and Betemit are almost certainly more likely to produce offense over AG, and with Posada out and Cano hacking his way to a sub-.500 OPS (26 OPS+), the Yanks need all the O they can get. AG's .316/.409/.421 (in all of 19 ABs) is just not sustainable over 2 weeks.

That said, the Yanks are second in the AL in homers, 4th in doubles, 4th in SLG, 4th in hits . . . but 8th in walks and 8th in OBP (and thus 7th in runs scored). When they stop hacking, and get the OBP up, the offense should be OK. Jeter, Cano, and Abreu are the worst offenders (OBPs: .305, .216, and .321), and Posada wasn't helping either (.333, but with a .303 AVG and only 3 BB vs 11 K). Giambi's OBP is only .330, but his AVG is only .171, so you figure its bound to improve. I hope.

Say what you want about Giambi, but he's got 5 home runs and has more BB (15) then K (11). Even if he hits just .240, if he keeps this up, he'll be A-OK.

2008-04-30 14:47:58

6. YankeeInMichigan

Although the Tiger lineup is heavily right-handed, I'll be relieved to see Pettitte neutralize Granderson, who has been on fire since his return.

2008-04-30 14:49:02

7. Mattpat11

3 As long as I don't ever have to watch Wilson take a throw from the catcher, I'm fine with him playing

2008-04-30 15:04:55

8. Cliff Corcoran

Update in main post above: Stewart simply optioned, Sean Henn DFAed.

2008-04-30 15:12:06

9. Mattpat11

Truly you don't want to lose a talent like Chris Stewart. Its takes a special talent to cross up two different pitchers a combined six times.

2008-04-30 15:16:08

10. JL25and3

From Chad Jennings: "I think Henn can be an effective big leaguer when he's not jerked around between long relief, lefty specialist and spot starter."

Have we really reached that level of bullpen segmentation? Where even the bottom guys on your staff have to be given fixed, specific roles - or else they're being "jerked around," and how can you expect them to function under those conditions?

2008-04-30 15:33:58

11. Mattpat11

I'VE FIGURED IT OUT

Phil Hughes changed his number to 34. The last two men to wear number 34? Sean Henn and Jaret Wright.

The number is CURSED.

BRING BACK 65.

Or give him 45.

2008-04-30 15:44:50

12. OldYanksFan

Could it be the entire state of NY has trouble with bad pitchers? Today, this guy, Tom Gorzelanny, TWO HIT the Mets. After this great efford, his ERA is 6.91, WHIP is 1.90. The Mets also made 3 errors, and of the 13 runs Pittsburg scored, NINE were unearned!

2008-04-30 16:10:37

13. OldYanksFan

AG will a gun, and an acurate one.

2008-04-30 16:10:42

14. Mattpat11

Hughes is smiling. That's good.

2008-04-30 16:11:03

15. Mattpat11

Doc wearing a Yankee cap.

2008-04-30 16:16:56

16. Mattpat11

line drive bunt. That's not good.

2008-04-30 16:20:42

17. Mattpat11

Bases loaded no out. I predict pop up, strikeout, fly out

2008-04-30 16:21:08

18. cult of basebaal

well, if they're going to torture us tonite, they're getting it going early

c'mon guys, BIG inning, right now!

2008-04-30 16:22:21

19. Mattpat11

There's the pop up.

2008-04-30 16:28:12

20. Mattpat11

That was too close.

2008-04-30 16:28:32

21. OldYanksFan

19 RBI for Giambi. Put away your matches.

2008-04-30 16:28:44

22. cult of basebaal

thank.
you.
melky.

an actual HIT with RISP ... with 2 outs, no less

2008-04-30 16:30:13

23. OldYanksFan

Robbie can really help us now....

2008-04-30 16:30:48

24. cult of basebaal

forget the hughes to the minors talk, when's the cano to the minors talk going to heat up?

2008-04-30 16:31:03

25. dianagramr

Oh no .... its Emma's least favorite commercial!

2008-04-30 16:39:57

26. rbj

I think I could trade off Rod Allen for Guiseppe Franco. At least Franco isn't constantly on, praising every little thing the Tigers do right.

2008-04-30 16:40:00

27. RIYank

Hey, not much buzz at the Banter tonight...

2008-04-30 16:40:01

28. weeping for brunnhilde

I'm not watching the game, I'm in a bar working on my dissertation and waiting to see a kick-ass concert, but just wanted to check in.

How are we doing?

2008-04-30 16:40:38

29. fansince77

Two things: Why was Jeter still on second after Giambi's blast to the gap in LC?

and how about that shitty ass five pitch walk coming in to score. Yankee pitchers consistently rebound from runs with walks.

2008-04-30 16:40:58

30. weeping for brunnhilde

22 Ooh, great, Melky to the rescue again!

What kind of hit was it? Was it a good ab?

2008-04-30 16:41:24

31. rsmith51

28 2-1 Yanks
Robbie and Hideki looked terrible at the plate.

2008-04-30 16:41:37

32. cult of basebaal

28 up 2-1 going into bottom of 2nd

2008-04-30 16:42:47

33. rsmith51

29 Looked like he mis-read it. I agree that he should have at least been ready to advance.

2008-04-30 16:42:54

34. OldYanksFan

And Jeter continues to have trouble throwing to 1B.

2008-04-30 16:52:58

35. RIYank

I could see Andy going seven innings tonight.

2008-04-30 16:55:45

36. rbj

Geez, Rod Allen, do you have to kiss the guy's butt just for making a throw from third to first?

2008-04-30 17:00:38

37. RIYank

Dammit. Why not lay off that pitch, Jason??

2008-04-30 17:01:55

38. rbj

Ah, Sheffield. I was wondering why the boos.

2008-04-30 17:03:09

39. Mattpat11

Since some completely arbitrary date last year, Sheffield and Giambi are 1-2 in lowest batting average.

2008-04-30 17:05:52

40. bartap74

11 I hear #21 is available.

2008-04-30 17:09:01

41. Jeb

40 now that's funny.

2008-04-30 17:11:44

42. fansince77

Yes I can see how benching Melky last night was the right move now.

2008-04-30 17:11:54

43. weeping for brunnhilde

31 32 Cheers.

Robby?--so what else is new.

Hideki's an interesting case.

His seemingly endless tappers to second infuriate me, and yet, he's been productive. He's hitting over .300, in fact, no?

Imagine how well he'd hit if he could learn to use the whole field with consistency.

But I won't get on him now, because he's basically productive, his "defense" notwithstanding.

2008-04-30 17:12:27

44. fansince77

Hit and run here not a bad idea to open holes for Cano?

2008-04-30 17:12:44

45. weeping for brunnhilde

35 Ah, damn, it's Andy tonight?

I hate missing Andy's starts.

Have I mentioned he's a golden god?

2008-04-30 17:13:36

46. fansince77

Cano seems like he's "sighing" as he swings.

2008-04-30 17:13:39

47. RIYank

44 Hmmmm, no.

2008-04-30 17:17:14

48. fansince77

47 meant that when Cano was up which actually might have led to a hit with his five billionth ground ball to second.

2008-04-30 17:17:34

49. rsmith51

43 I only threw Hideki in there because he popped up with bases loaded and nobody out in the first. He is doing fine this year.

2008-04-30 17:20:44

50. 3rd gen yankee fan

Robbie is driving me up a wall. His batting average SUCKS and now he gets thrown out by Pudge? I can barely watch the guy.

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2008-04-30 17:21:50

51. Mattpat11

Crap.

2008-04-30 17:23:00

52. fansince77

Yeah, kinda saw that coming...sucky ass shit man...still thinking about that first inning that should have been three runs minimally and that shitty walk to Crusty the Clown to start the second.

2008-04-30 17:23:05

53. RIYank

Urghphlg.

2008-04-30 17:23:08

54. rbj

Sigh.
Still, I like Thames.

2008-04-30 17:25:25

55. RIYank

Okay, well, I think we're gonna win this one. Andy will go seven, and we'll get a couple of runs, and the door will be slammed by our bullpen.

2008-04-30 17:28:33

56. Mattpat11

And the Yankees have packed it in

2008-04-30 17:30:06

57. fansince77

Wow - when we make outs we really do make them easy for the other team...

2008-04-30 17:30:06

58. fansince77

Wow - when we make outs we really do make them easy for the other team...

2008-04-30 17:30:29

59. williamnyy23

This offense isn't struggling. Without Arod and Posada, it is mediocre at best. If the Yankees can't hit the dregs they've faced lately, just wait until they face Bedard and Felix this weekend.

Arod and Posada better get healthy fast, because the Yankees are simply not a very good team without them.

2008-04-30 17:32:06

60. rbj

Frak!

2008-04-30 17:32:09

61. tommyl

Maybe Andy needs some time at AAA

2008-04-30 17:32:49

62. Mattpat11

We;re just non competitive.

2008-04-30 17:34:22

63. RIYank

Those homers didn't look like such bad pitches. Inside of the plate.

2008-04-30 17:35:33

64. williamnyy23

At some point, Cashman needs to give Bonds a call. It make no sense to watch your offense flounder, while one of the best hitters of all time is begging for a job.

2008-04-30 17:35:35

65. weeping for brunnhilde

Oh, no.

What's the score?

2008-04-30 17:36:39

66. Mattpat11

65 4-2

2008-04-30 17:38:07

67. cult of basebaal

gah!

i don't know what's pissing me off more ...

mlb.tv has decided to black me out of EVERY game i try to watch (started yesterday)

or ...

the yankees aren't playing well enough to make it worth my while to bother getting the damn service back ...

2008-04-30 17:38:14

68. bartap74

As Yogi might say, April has been a long year.

2008-04-30 17:41:03

69. fansince77

I love that Pettite is not afraid to go inside but it seems his last two starts that he has almost refused to go outside. Say what you want but the outside fastball is nearly unhittable and he has abandoned it. Tonight is a perfect example...Pettite has not thrown many bad pitches at all...but he it doesn't take many mistakes on and INSIDE fastball to hurt you. Make a mistake on the outside corner and your still around in the seventh/eighth inning.

2008-04-30 17:41:45

70. RIYank

65 Two homers against Andy. Both on inside, uh, fastballs? Change-ups?

2008-04-30 17:43:34

71. Just fair

64 I'd prefer to slowly lose my mind watching this offense spit the bit for 6 months than have to root for Bonds. But that's just me.

2008-04-30 17:44:04

72. RIYank

69 Were they fastballs? Oh, that was his cutter. And he's a lefty. Now it's all making sense...

2008-04-30 17:44:34

73. williamnyy23

71 I'd prefer for the Yankees to win games.

2008-04-30 17:45:20

74. fansince77

Offense still has plenty of time to wake up tonight and stop sitting on the two freaking first inning runs. It always seems like when we get a lead its like....ah that'll probably be enough...why bother.

2008-04-30 17:45:45

75. Yankees Brasil

Glad to see Pettitte joining the suck party. This team is hopeless.

2008-04-30 17:46:34

76. fansince77

73 I wouldn't want Bonds even if it bought us a playoff berth.

2008-04-30 17:47:02

77. williamnyy23

69 The problem is that Pettitte has had to be perfect because the offense is awful. If we expect the Yankees to win 3-2 and 4-3 games, well, it's not happening. Either this offense busts out, or the Yankees don't play in October. Without Arod and Posada, this lineup will not hit. I don't think it's too early for Cashman to consider some significant moves.

2008-04-30 17:47:19

78. Jeb

If the Yankees sign Bonds it would accelerate the trial....let's do it.

2008-04-30 17:47:51

79. williamnyy23

76 That's a fundamental difference then. I root for the Yankees to win...not for players that I personally like.

2008-04-30 17:48:18

80. Yankees Brasil

I want what's best for the Yankees, and I really think Bonds can help us win some games. So yeah, I do want the Yankees to get Bonds.

2008-04-30 17:48:39

81. Jeb

I guess we'll just get swept tomorrow night. I'm glad we're helping the Tigers turn it all around.

2008-04-30 17:48:57

82. tommyl

The shift takes a basehit away from Giambi? No, Giambi hitting it to the same damn place everytime took it away from himself. That's like saying everytime A-Rod grounds out to third that those pesky fielders took a basehit away from him.

2008-04-30 17:52:45

83. 3rd gen yankee fan

76 Me neither. If Bonds joins the team I'll take the rest of the year off. The hell with it.

2008-04-30 17:53:24

84. claybeez

I have no problem with a Bonds signing if an agreement were reached to curtail the clubhouse distractions that were within his control. I'm not advocating signing him. I just don't see the big deal. If Rocket still had something left would Cashman refuse to sign him?

2008-04-30 17:54:51

85. Yankees Brasil

84 You gotta get players to help your team win. If Bonds can do that, so be it, sign him.

2008-04-30 17:54:59

86. fansince77

82 I can't fault Giambi for that particular out because he hit where it was pitched...that's all you can do with that pitch and he mangled it. Bonderman is smart enough to pitch into the shift

That being said- where Giambi's fault lies is in never showing he can do anything else BUT hit it there. So I agree with you.

Giambi's average is what 150? Well maybe he's rationalized that s