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Home Run, Javy?

2008-04-23 14:07

by Cliff Corcoran

Having taken the opener of their three-game set at Phone Field, the Yanks hope to clinch just their third series win of the season (in eight tries) tonight. Taking the hill for New York will be Mikey Moose, who will be happy not to have to face Manny Ramirez. Moose faced a far weaker White Sox offense at the Cell twice last year, one good, one bad. The third time he faced the Chisox, back in the Bronx, he pretty much split the difference with a solid quality start.

The Sox have moved ex-Yank Javy Vazquez up a day to keep him on normal rest after Monday's off-day. He has faced his old team twice since being traded to Arizona for Randy Johnson. In 2006 he survived six walks and a Jason Giambi homer by striking out eight and holding the Yanks to two runs (both scored on that dinger) over five innings in a slim 5-4 Chicago win. Last year, he struck out seven Yanks in six innings, walked just three, and kept the ball in the park, but gave up four runs and took the loss as his punchless offense conjured up just one run against Chien-Ming Wang, who pitched a complete game. Thus far this season, he's picked up where he left off with his comeback 2007 season, striking out 27 in 25 1/3 innings against just 6 walks and holding his competition homerless.

Joe Girardi has posted the same lineup he ran out there yesterday, which marks the first time all season that he's repeated a lineup exactly. That means Posada's back behind the plate, and Morgan Ensberg's still at third base in place of Alex Rodriguez, who is conveniently resting his sore quad while basking in the arrival of his second daughter. The Sox attempted no steals against Posada last night, in part because they just don't steal. They have three stolen bases in five tries on the season, both marks dead last in the majors. All three successful steals are by Orlando Cabrera. Cabrera singled twice last night with no one on base ahead of him, but did not attempt a steal.

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2008-04-23 15:52:47

1. mehmattski

Shouldn't that be Phone Phield?

I will miss tonight's game, to go to a concert that features the following:

Third Eye Blind
The Roots
Carbon Leaf
Frontiers (a Journey tribute band)

Hypothesis: Phil Hughes in 10 years = Javy Vazquez. Thoughts?

2008-04-23 16:07:23

2. Cliff Corcoran

1 The Roots have fallen hard and fast, haven't they? Ouch.

2008-04-23 16:22:38

3. ny2ca2dc

BBTN saying Oswalt may be on the block. IPK + Tabata + ?(Betances? Marquez?) for him? Schweet?

Anyone else want to see Miranda up to replace Giambi the first time Jason needs to go on the DL? (assuming it happens)

2008-04-23 16:24:10

4. Zack

1 2 Yeah, wow, that is rough. Nobody should be relegated to playing with a Journey tribute band (how do they even deserve a tribute band??)

3 Oswalt's #s have been in a steady decline for some years now. he's still good, but decidedly not for a package like that...

2008-04-23 16:25:59

5. Zack

4 Let me rephrase that. His peripheral #s have been in decline, indicated that a pitcher like him, slight who relies on strikeouts, may not have too many good years ahead of him...I'd much rather wait for CC

2008-04-23 16:31:27

6. ny2ca2dc

4 5 You may be right. I just looked at Oswalt's stats & PECOTA projection, and my concept of him had gotten a little out of whack with reality, it seems. Plus coming over to the AL. Maybe not worth a guy with Tabata's potential plus others.

2008-04-23 16:57:29

7. Sliced Bread

no Manny to terrorize Moose tonight, but facing Thome might not be therapeutic either.
48 AB 6 HR 15 RBI 1.006 OPS

hat tip to Michael Kay's radio show

2008-04-23 17:02:31

8. rbj

1 Gee, I think I've heard of Third Eye Blind, but none of the others. And Journey sucks.

Now if you'll excuse me, the damn kids are on the lawn again.

2008-04-23 17:06:37

9. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

{8] "Rupert! It's too loud down there!" Journey better than REO SPeedwagon though

2008-04-23 17:09:32

10. dianagramr

REO Speedwagon had that hit .... Roll with the Changeups ...

2008-04-23 17:19:14

11. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

Ok, I've got 455ft for the distance on Thome's first homer off Mussina.

2008-04-23 17:19:37

12. rbj

9 I think I'd prefer Styx to either of those, but that ain't sayin' much.

2008-04-23 17:22:58

13. OldYanksFan

"Let me rephrase that. His peripheral #s have been in decline..."
This is true, but the decline is very gradual and somewhat slight. Maybe he is not a Top 10 pitcher anymore, but his numbers are still very good.

He's not a big guy, listed at 285 lbs, so maybe he won't age (as a power pitcher) well. IPK + Tabata + ?(Betances? Marquez?) might be a bit much, but i think he's worth consideration.

Moose with a perfect game through 2 batters. PULL HIM NOW!

2008-04-23 17:24:18

14. OldYanksFan

(Is Giambi watching?)

2008-04-23 17:26:02

15. ms october

14 hopefully thome was explaining it to him

2008-04-23 17:28:42

16. rbj

Oopsy, Cabrera (the right Cabrera)

2008-04-23 17:29:13

17. fansince77

Hey guys just came on.

I really like JD's ab and approach. I felt like we are seeing a true leadoff hitter reemerge- he just has some kind of confidence suddenly.

Moose looked great- he was dealing that outside corner beautifully.

Got a REAL GOOD FEELING about tonight and the next five or so! Here we go Yankees are back!

2008-04-23 17:31:37

18. fansince77

Wow Dr. Dumbass Morgan just said a quad takes longer to heal than a hammy? What a moron- hamstrings can end seasons, Quads are a week or two usually.

2008-04-23 17:32:10

19. seattleyank

Dammit! Posada is seriously trigger happy this year.

2008-04-23 17:34:32

20. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

anyone got the stats on GIDP this season for the "Good Guys"?

2008-04-23 17:36:21

21. fansince77

I feel like with Vasquez tonight it's like - OK Javi you may have gotten by these early season games but remember WE KNOW YOU! - YOUR SIMPLY NOT THAT GOOD!

2008-04-23 17:38:12

22. fansince77

19 That's a tough one to put on Posada that was hit on the screws right up the middle- For Giambi that's going the other way.

Actually, some really good AB's so far...things are looking good - lots of pitches for Javi V.

2008-04-23 17:38:47

23. rbj

Vasquez is a control specialist?

2008-04-23 17:39:30

24. fansince77

Another quality at bat and more pitches more pitches more pitches - Yankee baseball!

2008-04-23 17:40:10

25. fansince77

That all started with a Cano walk...good times.

2008-04-23 17:43:52

26. OldYanksFan

44 pitches thru 2 for JV.

2008-04-23 17:45:14

27. Shaun P

23 Only 6 walks in 27 IP this year before tonight. So, yes. But I'm glad he's lost the plate tonight.

21 Actually, he is good. The 900+ innings he threw from 2000-2003, his age 23 to 26 seasons, eclipsing 110 pitches in almost half his 130 starts over those years, is likely why he faded so badly after the ASB in 2004 - and continued to pitch poorly in '05 and '06.

2008-04-23 17:46:14

28. fansince77

Great to see Moose go in and tight to get a broken bat- "It's a heavy 84 mph"

2008-04-23 17:49:11

29. fansince77

27 Shaun, point taken but all star break 2004 is a long time ago...no? I remember how excited I was to learn Vasquez was coming to NYC and then how disappointed I was each and every start. I thought he would be a great fit for the Yanks but he busted big time. ONe of the biggest disappointment of the 2000's for me.

2008-04-23 17:51:10

30. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

Crede has 19rbi?

2008-04-23 17:51:28

31. fansince77

Man Moose is dealing with that WTF I got nothing to lose attitude.

2008-04-23 17:53:44

32. fansince77

Wow - Moose just fooled the shit out of the Umpire - that was strike three. I know K - Zone had it an inch outside but he has gotten 3 pitches worse than that so far. CONSISTENCY!

2008-04-23 18:15:00

33. Simone

Can Mussina get through the White Sox line up one more time? We can only hope.

2008-04-23 18:17:22

34. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

quiet here..i'm hoping too the Angels can hold off Bos so we can pick up a game..

2008-04-23 18:28:18

35. ms october

that was nice - moose needed an easy inning

2008-04-23 18:28:19

36. OldYanksFan

The Moose.... IS LOOSE! Yahoo!

2008-04-23 18:41:51

37. Simone

Yeah, Jorgie! Nice job.

2008-04-23 18:41:53

38. Just fair

What, did the FCC put some of the posters on double-secret probation due to last night's excitemrent?
SWEET 3-0. Thatta boy, Jorge!

2008-04-23 18:43:43

39. Just fair

Whatever Moose took a sip of before tonight's game, he should give Robbie some.

2008-04-23 18:44:31

40. RIYank

Got here just in time for the Posada double. Yum.

Looks (from your comments) like Moose is pitching well.

2008-04-23 18:47:25

41. rbj

Springer is from Cleveland.

And Jerry, here's a tip: pay the ladies in cash.

2008-04-23 18:48:19

42. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

38 "Bueller? Bueller?"
looks like we can get at least 6 from Mussina tonight

2008-04-23 18:50:26

43. RIYank

Ouch. Left that one a little too high, and right down the middle.

2008-04-23 18:50:39

44. Simone

Ugh. I hope this isn't the beginning of a Mussina meltdown. Start warming up someone in the bullpen, Girardi.

2008-04-23 18:52:48

45. Shaun P

40 FWIW, from what I've seen on Gameday, it looks like Moose is getting the benefit of a rather wide strike zone. I'm not sure if Vazquez is getting the same or not, been working instead of paying close attention. =)

2008-04-23 18:53:37

46. RIYank

Torii Hunter drives in Vlad (who stole second) with a single in the ninth, 6-4 Halos.

2008-04-23 18:54:37

47. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

46 Vlad stole a base?? nice..one of my favorite players to watch in the last 10 years

2008-04-23 18:55:09

48. RIYank

Nick Swisher earns his name!
How many K is that for Moose?

2008-04-23 18:56:57

49. RIYank

47 Yah. Singled, stole second, knocked in by Hunter; Torii out trying for second.

Now Mr Francisco Rodriguez making short work of the crimson hose.

2008-04-23 19:00:25

50. Zack

13 As I said, he's still good, but I don't think he will be for much longer. And I think any package is probably too much for him, especially if Sabathia is available for cash. I know you and others are against him, but I cant for the life of me figure out why...

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2008-04-23 19:00:49

51. RIYank

And after (Varitek back-up) Cash flies out, Jacoby whiffs and Dusty grits out to third, and down go the Sox. So this is shaping up to be a very good evening (knock on wood).

2008-04-23 19:01:35

52. Just fair

This game has turned beautiful.

2008-04-23 19:02:00

53. yankster

Hell yeah. pile it on...

2008-04-23 19:02:42

54. RIYank

That was an odd play. (Damon's double.)

2008-04-23 19:08:07

55. RIYank

The Tigers are winning 18-6.

2008-04-23 19:11:44

56. fansince77

Moose dealin'...lovin' it! Damon was spark then a flicker, now a full fledged lead off hitter.

Yankee baseball is back!

2008-04-23 19:13:40

57. fansince77

I could see teams with a "shift guy" leaving that grass behind second base "extra-long" to slow down that ground ball to right thing.

2008-04-23 19:14:13

58. OldYanksFan

50 I think we would all love CC, it's just that we don't want to get Zitoed with a 7/$120m contract.

2008-04-23 19:16:15

59. fansince77

Moose has really thrown a gem tonight! Not a "he got away with a couple" gem but a true gem- I've watched every pitch and he has thrown fat cookie. The key is he has come inside a few extra times with a heavy ball.

2008-04-23 19:16:56

60. RIYank

Is Moose really throwing this well, or do the White Sox suck?

2008-04-23 19:17:34

61. OldYanksFan

Super quality start from the Moose. JD getting hot. JG with 2 hits in 2 games. Can Cano be far behind?

2008-04-23 19:18:40

62. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

58 I am also worried about being "Zitoed"! stay away from CC please...

2008-04-23 19:19:05

63. OldYanksFan

And Po finding gold going the other way. Nice!

2008-04-23 19:23:16

64. Shaun P

55 How long until the Yanks play the Rangers?

2008-04-23 19:23:22

65. RIYank

Check out the Tigers sixth inning tonight:

BB
single
sac
double
BB
homer
HBP
single
BB
HBP
single
double
sac fly
single
fly out

2008-04-23 19:25:28

66. RIYank

That worked out, but I don't see the percentage in walking Giambi.

Oh, wait. White Sox. No explanation necessary.

2008-04-23 19:28:30

67. RIYank

Detroit now has 19 runs on 14 hits. Walks and HBP galore. In the seventh they scored by drawing four walks. The Rangers' pitching is beyond awful -- can you imagine having eleven hits and trailing by 13 runs?

2008-04-23 19:33:47

68. tommyl

Did Moose just keep himself in the game again? I love that.

2008-04-23 19:34:21

69. OldYanksFan

That should be it for Moose. An excellent outing, and he lives to pitch another day.

2008-04-23 19:34:55

70. Shaun P

67 No. I wonder, though, if Volquez would be pitching nearly as well if he was still in Texas. Hamilton is hitting, but man could the Rangers use a pitcher, or 10.

2008-04-23 19:36:13

71. Shaun P

69 Excellent, yes, but I saw at least 7 pitches on Gameday that were way outside that the ump called as strikes. I'm glad Moose was able to take advantage, but it doesn't leave me feeling great about his future prospects.

Joba for two now?

2008-04-23 19:36:44

72. pistolpete

68 When Moose feels good, you can be damn sure he's staying in as long as possible. It doesn't happen every start, after all.

Maybe, what, one out of every 10?

2008-04-23 19:37:44

73. RIYank

70 No, probably not nearly as well. But yeah. They could even use half a pitcher.

That really was a great Moose outing. Makes me a lot more optimistic. Now if Phil can have a really good start, I'll be able to listen to sportstalk radio with a smug grin as the nitwits once again assure the public that Boston will run away with the division. (You should hear the locals slobber over Ellsbury. No, you shouldn't, actually, it's more than a strong man's stomach can take.)

2008-04-23 19:38:16

74. tommyl

71 Joba threw 1.2 yesterday (and that .2 was with the bases loaded). I think up 4 runs you can go to Hawkins and mabye Bruney unless Mo needs some work.

2008-04-23 19:38:24

75. weeping for brunnhilde

Well, Team, this is a happy state of affairs!

Mike actually pitched a good game and we managed to score 6 runs?

Things are looking up, eh?

2008-04-23 19:38:26

76. tommyl

71 Oh...or Dorf.

2008-04-23 19:38:57

77. tommyl

75 Lets just hope for a good start from Hughes tomorrow and all will be well with the world.

2008-04-23 19:40:49

78. RIYank

75 I knew you'd like this game. Not like that horrible game yesterday soiled 8/9 of the runs coming on homers.

2008-04-23 19:41:20

79. Shaun P

74 Thank you. I missed last night's action, so . . .

75 Let's hope the barrage continues into Cleveland . . .

77 Well, if Hughes really is death vs RHB, tomorrow should be a good night for him.

2008-04-23 19:41:30

80. weeping for brunnhilde

77 How 'bout 7/4ER?

Let's have that be the goal.

2008-04-23 19:42:44

81. weeping for brunnhilde

78 Heh heh. I've actually been out all night, so have no idea what's been going on.

How's Robby looked?

2008-04-23 19:43:34

82. SF Yanks

80 I want no more than 3ER.

2008-04-23 19:45:13

83. RIYank

81 Bad. He had a good walk, but bad in general.

Well, that's it, the Tigers are going to finish their game with 14 hits and 19 runs. I wonder when was the last time a team had five more runs than hits??

2008-04-23 19:45:24

84. OldYanksFan

Did you guys see Prince Fielder? He is 24 and he is Fat. I mean FAT! Huge! Fat! You wonder how good he could be if he lost 40 lbs. (Man, is he fat!).

2008-04-23 19:46:47

85. weeping for brunnhilde

83 Ok, well at least that's something.

2008-04-23 19:47:03

86. fansince77

I have to say once again - Jeter ranging so much better this year. Last year on that last ball hit up the middle- I am already at the fridge getting a beer- this year suddenly this guy number two is on the tv screen along with second base.

2008-04-23 19:47:22

87. OldYanksFan

Ok.... just don't walk the leadoff man...

2008-04-23 19:47:42

88. RIYank

Oh, god, this is Nick Swisher. Just throw him strikes. Jeez. Yuck.

2008-04-23 19:49:19

89. RIYank

86 I know. It's position, I'm told. I can't see it.

Weeping, the really good news is Posada and Damon both thwacking the ball nicely.
And Moose.

2008-04-23 19:50:07

90. pistolpete

out out out OUT TAKE HIM OUT.

2008-04-23 19:50:16

91. tommyl

Oh c'mon guys, do not ruin a good Moose outing.

2008-04-23 19:50:24

92. fansince77

ok - ONE MORE OUT AND THEN- GOTTA GO TO MO!

2008-04-23 19:50:25

93. weeping for brunnhilde

Nice hitting by Cabrera.

2008-04-23 19:51:20

94. Shaun P

88 LaTroy's 3rd pitch to Cabrera was a strike for Moose all night.

Traber time?

2008-04-23 19:51:31

95. RIYank

I'd have Billy the Kid pitch to Thome.

2008-04-23 19:52:48

96. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

I am not sold on Traber...

2008-04-23 19:53:05

97. RIYank

94 Hm, maybe, but Cabrera is a good hitter. To Swisher you really have to throw strikes, fo-sho strikes.

Yep, there's Billy.

2008-04-23 19:53:05

98. weeping for brunnhilde

89 Ah, well Damon is very good news, indeed. Jorgie I expect to have another great season because from the little I've seen so far, he's spraying the ball around nicely.

Good for Damon. Let's hope he can not cause himself major injury and maybe he'll be of some use to us.

2008-04-23 19:53:53

99. weeping for brunnhilde

Oh, it's Thome, of all people?

I don't like this...

2008-04-23 19:54:29

100. pistolpete

so much for that.

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