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A. Pettitte (L) BR BP BC E
P. Hughes BR BP BC E mi
C. Pavano BR BP BC E mi
A. Aceves BR E mi

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B. Bruney BR BP BC E mi
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S. Ponson BR BP BC E mi
D. Robertson BR BC E mi
H. Sanchez BC mi

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T. Peña (1B) BR BP BC
M. Harkey (Pen) BR BP BC

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J.B. Cox BC mi
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S. Jackson BC mi
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C. Curtis BC mi
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J. Jones BC mi
G. Kontos BC mi
J. Nuñez BC mi
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T. Pratt BR BP BC E MLB
T.J. Beam BR BP BC E mi PIT mL
B. Kozlowski (L) BR BP BC E mi Japan

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M. Smith (L) BR BP BC E mi PHI
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J. Sanchez mi PHI

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Observations From Cooperstown--What Do The Yankees Need?
2008-01-24 15:13
by Bruce Markusen

If I never hear the name Johan Santana between now and Opening Day, I will be a satisfied baseball fan. The endless rumors surrounding the premier left-hander have basically ruined this Hot Stove League season, holding several other potential blockbuster trades hostage. It’s almost enough to get me to kick the rumor habit—but not quite. The Santana rumors have so dominated Yankee hot stove headlines over the last two months that some members of the media have forgotten that this team has other concerns. Be it first base, the bench, the bullpen, or the back end of the starting rotation, there are plenty of questions to be answered by the time that the Bombers open up their final season at Yankee Stadium.

Yes, Brian Cashman has done well in playing defense this winter, bringing back critical free agents like Jorge Posada, Alex Rodriguez, and Mariano Rivera, re-signing an important complementary piece in Bobby Abreu, and holding on to all of his prized pitching prospects. (Did you know that the Yankees have 25 pitchers on their 40-man roster? That must be some sort of record.) On the other hand, he has done virtually nothing to augment the face of the team’s roster—a roster that produced another first-round exit in the postseason. Outside of LaTroy Hawkins (who will definitely make the team) and Jonathan Albaladejo and Jason Lane (who might not), the Yankees are counting exclusively on internal improvements to address the problems of pitching, first base, and right-handed power (or the lack thereof). Is that the right approach? Conservative baseball thinkers who prefer the reliance on one’s own farm system will likely say yes, while the wheelers and dealers among us will put forth a wholly different response.

With that debate providing a backdrop, let’s take a look at each positional need and what might be done between now and spring training, or at the very least, what needs to happen for the Yankees to avoid the first-half disaster that nearly drowned the team, along with the playoff performance that actually did sink the season.

First base

As he did last winter, Cashman has taken a lackadaisical approach to upgrading the Yankees’ weakest position. Resisting the temptation to trade for a big-time hitter like a Nick Swisher, Cashman seems content to shop at the discount aisle. He cut ties with noodle bats Andy Phillips and Doug Mientkiewicz only to import the Swiss cheese swing of Jason Lane. Frankly, the Yankees would have been better off with Nathan Lane, who can, at the very least, sing and dance. Jason Lane has been simply awful the past two seasons, after slugging .499 for the Astros in 2005. He’s not that young either, a 31-year-old veteran who is well on his way to a journeyman entry in Total Baseball. The signing of Lane tells me that the Yankees are worried that Shelley "Slam" Duncan might not be completely ready for spring training after suffering shoulder blood clots in November. They’re also legitimately concerned about the lack of outfield depth, what with only four real outfielders on the 40-man roster. Lane can play all three outfield positions, will learn first base in the spring, and has the kind of right-handed pop, when his swing is right, that the Yankees crave.

If Lane makes the team as the 13th and final position player, he might platoon with Wilson Betemit. While I’m no great fan of Lane, I’m a huge supporter of Betemit. If the Yankees let him play first base against all right-handers, he’ll hit 20 home runs, reach base 35 per cent of the time, and play the position with range and finesse. That kind of a package would represent a huge improvement over the 2007 trio of Phillips, Mientkiewicz, and Miguel Cairo. Then again, the Yankees might do something stupid and delude themselves into believing that Jason Giambi can play first base every day. Not a good idea. Giambi is the worst defensive first baseman I’ve ever seen; that illustrious group of stone hands includes Richie Sexson, Mo Vaughn, Don Baylor, Jack Clark, and Dave Kingman. (Keep in mind that I never saw Dick "Dr. Strangeglove" Stuart or Zeke Bonura play, but they could both be thrown into this barrel, too.) Giambi is a huge defensive liability the Yankees simply cannot afford to carry, especially with the presence of ground ball pitchers like Chien-Ming Wang and Andy Pettitte.

One other possibility is Brad Wilkerson, a free agent who has received some inquiries from the Yankees. He’s a left-handed version of Lane—he can play the three outfield spots and first base—but has loads more talent and a better pedigree. Even in an off year, Wilkerson hit 20 home runs. He has a history of drawing walks, having drawn 106 free passes in 2004, a trait that has been noted by the Red Sox, as well. (At last report, the Red Sox have offered Wilkerson a one-year deal worth $2 million.)

The Bench

This area already received an upgrade during the second half of 2007 with the call-up of Duncan and the acquisitions of Betemit and Jose Molina. Betemit can fill two roles—platoon first baseman and utility infielder—which is extremely valuable in an era when so many roster spots are soaked up by marginal pitchers. There’s simply no good reason that Betemit can’t fill both roles, backing up Robinson Cano, Derek Jeter, and A-Rod on days when he isn’t needed to play first base. Frankly, this is a method that teams like the Yankees need to embrace in order to become more creative, so that they can cover more positions with fewer bench players. As for the backup catcher, Molina probably won’t hit .318 again, but he’s light years better than Wil Nieves defensively. If Giambi is reduced to a reserve role, the bench becomes even stronger. The biggest question is the lack of right-handed sock, which would be abetted by a healthy Duncan but becomes problematic if Lane makes the club and continues to flail at the plate. Given Lane’s recent history, the lack of legitimate outfield depth behind the front four remains a concern, too.

Along those lines, recent trade rumors involve the outfield. There has been talk of Hideki Matsui being traded to the Padres for prospects, with those prospects then being forwarded to the Twins as part of a package for Santana. If that were to happen, the Yankees would be left with three fulltime outfielders and no legitimate backup. Ultimately, the Yankees would have to acquire another outfielder, be it Wilkerson, Corey Patterson, or some other flychaser to be named later.

Starting Rotation

At one point, I thought the Yankees might pursue a veteran innings eater like Noah Lowry (via trade) or Jon Lieber (free agency), but Cashman seems willing to roll the dice on the three prized right-handers (Chamberlain, Hughes, and Kennedy). Lieber has already signed with the Cubs, while the trade talks involving Lowry cooled off quickly in late December. Realistically, the Yankees need one of the big three to emerge if they expect to contend with the Red Sox, and at least two of the three to thrive if they want to overtake the Sox. Mike Mussina projects as a sometime starter and long reliever, and that’s the kind of secondary role he should play at this late stage of his career. But I have doubts about him successfully becoming the Ramiro Mendoza/Dick Tidrow of the 2008 staff. "Mr. Inflexible" needs 96 hours notice to start, doesn’t like the idea of relieving, and hates anything that breaks his routine. Those aren’t exactly the character traits of someone who can capably fill the swingman role. If not Mussina, the Yankees will likely have to rely on another kid, someone like Alan Horne or Ross Ohlendorf.

The Bullpen

Raise your hand if you’re confident that Kyle Farnsworth can handle the eighth inning. With no hands visible, Joe Girardi seems to be the last man on Earth who believes in Farnsworth. Let’s hope that Girardi can convince Farnsworth to throw a sinking fastball for strikes; if not, the Yankees are in trouble. Hawkins is no more than a sixth or seventh-inning setup option; the smaller his role the better. Ohlendorf and Jose Veras each looked good in September, but their resumes remain questionable. The best hope might be the massive Albaladejo, who’s built like Tim Stoddard and throws like Brian Fisher. He’s the kind of guy that Joe Torre used to ignore but might be receive a longer look from Girardi. From the left side, the options are less appealing. Sean Henn and Kei Igawa were both horrid in 2007, a fact that leaves the Yankees searching yet again for a lefty specialist. In terms of in-house answers, the best solution might be non-roster invite Heath Phillips, who has posted good minor league numbers and has an effective assortment of breaking pitches. There’s been talk of bringing back Ron Villone for a third go-round, but he’s not the answer. Damaso Marte remains available via trade, assuming that Cashman will relent on giving up one B-level prospect in return.

Clearly, the Yankees are crossing their fingers that they can find some gems amidst the rockpile. Realistically, they need one of the unproven right-handers to step up and fill a key late-inning role, and will likely have to find a lefty reliever from the trade market or the scrap heap.

So where does all of this leave the Yankees? The nucleus of the team is set, for better or worse, with a strong reliance on aging hitters to carry the offense and on young pitchers to fill out the starting rotation. But there is still some fine-tuning to be done, especially with regard to the bench and the bullpen. Those areas will need to be closely monitored—and ultimately addressed—during the six-week marathon that is spring training.

***

Finally, I’d like to extend get-well wishes to Yankee blogger Steven Goldman, who is recovering from recent thyroid surgery. While I don’t always agree with Goldman, I find his writing style entertaining and his knowledge of history impressive. The talented Goldman’s writing makes www.yesnetwork.com a good stopping point for Yankee fans.

 

Bruce Markusen, the author of seven books on baseball, writes "Cooperstown Confidential" for MLB.com.

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2008-01-25 06:56:39
1.   Sliced Bread
Nathan Lane! Yeah, when was the last time the Yanks had a bonafide song & dance man in the infield? But something tells me Joe Girardi's not down with the whimsical musical comedy thing.
2008-01-25 07:18:59
2.   YankeeInMichigan
I wouldn't put Giambi in the Kingman category of defensive first basemen. He handles throws in the dirt quite well, and his range is surprisingly good for a guy his size. On the other hand, he has zero leaping ability, and his throws to second are about as accurate as Knoblauch's throws to first.

The bigger problem with Giambi at first is the increased injury risk.

2008-01-25 07:59:10
3.   Shaun P
The signing of Lane doesn't concern me. I'd be surprised if he makes the team out of camp, but he's not bad as insurance goes at AAA.

Wilkerson might be a good add, but had injury issues the last two years, with only 338 ABs in '07 and 320 ABs in '06. I like his power/patience combo, but I'm not sure he's a better fit than Lane right now. That he's a(nother) lefty bat might be why I'm leaning to Lane.

Finally, I'm not worried about Farnsworth at all. I think with Joe G here, the days of the formulaic bullpen ("save situation + 8th inning = Farnsworth") are gone. I imagine Kyle will pitch the 8th in save situations some times, but I expect to see other guys there too: Britton (that was his main role in Baltimore in '06), Ohlendorf, maybe even Patterson, Edwar, etc.

As for a need - Jeter's glove to return to near-adequate (and stay there). What hurts a groundball pitcher more, a bad 1B or a bad SS?

2008-01-25 08:33:32
4.   tommyl
What would the price be on Nick Johnson (or Young)? Could the Nats be convinced to make a trade for salary relief?
2008-01-25 08:39:20
5.   Knuckles
I'd stay far away from Dmitri Young, and I don't think Johnson's going to be ready until May or June.
2008-01-25 08:47:04
6.   pistolpete
4 >>As for a need - Jeter's glove to return to near-adequate (and stay there). What hurts a groundball pitcher more, a bad 1B or a bad SS? >>

Probably a bad 1B - not every ball goes to SS, but every ground ball is eventually going to be attempted to thrown over to first.

That said, I still don't think Giambi is that bad with the glove. We just got spoiled with Donnie and then Tino after him.

2008-01-25 09:22:30
7.   williamnyy23
Maybe it's just me, but didn't all of the holes (back-end of the rotation, middle relief, 1st base) cited above exist last season as well? And yet, the Yankees still managed to miss the best record in baseball by 2 games.

I guess that's why I don't get the assertion that the Yankees "need one of the big three to emerge if they expect to contend with the Red Sox". After all, the Yankees 3-5 starters last season were Mussina, Pavano and Igawa!! And yet, still, they managed to "contend with Boston".

I also take exception to the notion that "As he did last winter, Cashman has taken a lackadaisical approach to upgrading the Yankees' weakest position". What would make anyone think Cashman has been lackadaisical in this area? Instead, I think Cashman has been unwilling to overpay for a veteran retread or trade prospects for a more established bat. Perhaps that's lackadaisical to some, but to me it's prudence.

2008-01-25 09:23:40
8.   williamnyy23
6 I've seen enough of Giambi at 1B...I think he is that bad, and getting worse each season. What's more, playing the field too often seems to hasten the onset of his inevitable injuries.
2008-01-25 09:24:13
9.   JL25and3
I wonder what it would take to get Juan Rivera from the Angels? He seems like he'd be a good fit as a fourth outfielder.
2008-01-25 09:24:46
10.   williamnyy23
One more note...don't forget about Juan Miranda at 1B. I wouldn't be surprised if he figures into the mix at some point this season.
2008-01-25 09:25:57
11.   williamnyy23
9 With Hunter, Matthews, Vlad and Anderson, Rivera may be expendable, but I can't see the Angels being reasonable in their demands.
2008-01-25 09:28:27
12.   ny2ca2dc
10 Good reminder, his reviews from fall ball were stellar. He's lefty though, so while I'm pretty excited about him, He doesn't address the RH power outage.

We discussed this last year, but the best option might be moving Matsui to 1B. As long as he's better than Giambi, and I think he would be, then Giambi can be the full(ish) time DH.

2008-01-25 09:28:36
13.   JL25and3
11 And Reggie Willets.
2008-01-25 09:52:07
14.   Shaun P
11 13 Why the heck do the Angels still have Rivera? Are they really going to carry 6 OF (7 if you count Figgins)? 2 Cs, 4 regular IFs, 1 backup MI, leaves 6 spots. Shoot, maybe they can carry 6.

But, if they keep Kotchman, Morales, Kendrick, Figgins, Izturis, and Aybar, plus 2 catchers, that leaves only 5 spots, which means one of the OFs has to go.

I'm kind of surprised that the Angels didn't non-tender Rivera. Sounds like a decision will need to be made soon though.

2008-01-25 10:38:59
15.   tommyl
What's the upside on Juan Rivera compared to say a Brett Gardner? How many years are on his deal? We do have Ajax and Tabata coming along in the next few years.
2008-01-25 11:25:49
16.   rbj
I was about to raise my hand re: Flameunworth, then I reread "man handle" as can handle.

I've got no sense of the bullpen, I think the bench is better than it was this time last year, and I don't think we are going to have any A-Rod drama this year.

2008-01-25 11:33:35
17.   JL25and3
15 The Angels just signed Rivera for 1 year/$2.25M. He's a free agent after next year.

With him, upside isn't the issue; he is what he is. But he's got some power from the right side, and he's got experience as a role player.

11 Now that Stoneman's gone, I wonder if the Angels will still be impossible to deal with.

2008-01-25 11:46:18
18.   Shaun P
15 17 And Gardner, in comparison, has no power. I also don't know if he's ever played RF before. Rivera can play all the OF slots, all reasonably well.
2008-01-25 13:36:10
19.   Schteeve
6 Your first point seems to be a fallacy. Yes, most ground balls end up at first base, but can you tell me that Giambi is bad at catching throws, or scooping throws? I believe the issue with Giambi's defense isn't that he can't catch throws, it's that he can't move laterally and he can't throw the ball with much accuracy.

But that said, Jeter is a shitload better shortstop than Giambi is a first baseman, so the RS/150 numbers favor Jeter significantly.

2008-01-25 13:38:08
20.   Schteeve
8 I think that's the best reason to keep Giambi out of the field, his bat is tremendously valuable when he's healthy. So do everything you can to keep him healthy.
2008-01-25 13:43:35
21.   markp
I don't think trading for set-up guys works as well as developing your own. With all of the potential in the BP, trading for them seems to be counterproductive.
I would hope Girardi (unlike Torre) can build a BP-it's part of a managers job.
In any case, after all we've invested in young starters and BP guys, I hope they're collectively a lot better than a "rockpile".
2008-01-25 17:28:11
22.   Gagne55
4 , 9 Juan Rivera and Nick Johnson can be had with Javier Vasquez. Randy Choate comes with them as a bonus.
2008-01-25 17:44:07
23.   Bruce Markusen
WilliamNYY, it's true that the Yankees had problems with the bullpen, bench, first base, and back of the rotation last year--during the first half (and then some) of the season. But when did the Yankees play their best ball of the season? That happened during the final two months, AFTER they brought up Chamberlain to address the bullpen situation, after Hughes and Kennedy came up (one from the disabled list, the other from Triple-A) to strengthen their rotation, and after they acquired Molina, Betemit, and Duncan to bolster the bench. Mientkiewicz also hit well in September, giving the Yankees better production from first base.

Teams need a bullpen and a bench to play well; when the Yankees struggled last year, it was in large part because of the lack of set-up relief and the lack of a bench. The bench looks a lot better now, but could still use another outfielder/right-handed hitter, especially if Duncan isn't ready. With Chamberlain back in the rotation, the bullpen is back to what it was--Rivera and several question marks. I agree that there's talent there, but most of it is either several years past its peak (Farnsworth and Hawkins) or not yet major league proven (Ohlendorf, Ramirez, Sanchez, etc.) The jury remains out.

Also, the 3-4-5 starters weren't really Mussina, Pavano, and Igawa. Pavano made a few starts, Igawa made a few more, and that was during the miserable start to the season. Both were long gone from being contributors by the time the Yankees turned their season around.

2008-01-25 18:16:16
24.   yankee23
Giambi at 1st - Worst 1b ever
Ortiz at 1st - ??
2008-01-25 18:29:47
25.   williamnyy23
23 Well, that's not exactly true. Over the last two months of the season, the Yankees were 36-19, but in June and July they were 35-20. So, the Yankees were actually playing at their peak from June 1 forward. The reality is the Yankees had turned it around long before Hughes returned from the DL, Chamberlain/Kennedy were promoted and Betemit/Molina/Duncan were added.

Having said that, I do agree that the Yankees additions later in the year bolstered the team, which is all the more reason why the 2008 Yankees don't really need anything special to happen in order to compete. The Yankees were the best team in baseball from June 1 on (8 games better than any other AL team). So, using your argument that the team as constituted at the end of 2007 was more like the good Yankees than the bad Yankees in April and May, well, that then lends one to believe the team should contend for the best record in the league.

Finally, your point about Mussina/Pavano/Igawa is true. As things turned out, they weren't the 3-4-5. Again, however, that's my point. If in April last year I told you that all three of those pitchers would either pitch poorly or not at all, I am sure you'd have said they couldn't contend with Boston. Well, the worst case was realized for each and the Yankees still managed to fall only two games away from having the best record in baseball.

I guess where I disagree with you is that I think this team as presently constituted is a legitimate contender that is on par with Boston. They don't need one of the Big 3 to emerge as a stud. But, if one should, I think it would catapult the Yankees past Boston instead of merely draw them even.

2008-01-25 18:55:38
26.   Just fair
I was reading Waswatching and he linked to another site which had a bunch of words and numbers I found interesting about next year's (this year's) possibilities. Halfway down is the good stuff. Sorry if it's been previously posted.
http://tinyurl.com/392nqk
2008-01-25 19:40:41
27.   Mattpat11
Ultimately, I think this is largely the same team that wasn't good enough last year, just older.

I think the bullpen will be the end of me. Our somewhat unorthodox strategy of building a bullpen around pitchers that allow a lot of baserunners (if at all possible, mainly through walks, but we'll take pitchers that give up base hits out the ass as well) doesn't sit well with me.

I have this funny feeling that while Farnsworth will always hold a special place in my heart, and I'm sure Latroy Hawkins will be nothing less than wretched, Jose Veras will be my new nemeses.

Few things bring me as much joy as watching a 27 year old man with a minor league WHIP of 1.46 "working through his problems" on a major league team in a pennant race.

And I'm sure we'll see more than our share of Kei Igawa and Brian Bruney, because the team seems to try to piss me off.

I think the offense will be good, probably good enough to make the playoffs singlehandedly again, because I think several people on Boston will come back to earth.

The key is the young starters. If they hit the ground running, I think we're in good shape. If this is a transition year for them, I think we're going to be embarrassed again come October this year.

2008-01-25 19:43:42
28.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Arrragh don't remind me of the Vazquez trade again, we would have been so much better off Keeping Nick / Juan and signing any reasonable pitcher that year. it looked espically horrid because in 04 Giambi broke down and it was the year where Bernie really really begin to play poorly.

I would definately do a Jeff Marquez or something like that for Nick Johnson. any combination of non-top prospects i'll do in a heart beat really, realistically when he's healthy he's fairly comparable to Mark Teixiera !

2008-01-25 21:07:15
29.   Mattpat11
Nick has also played in 351 games in the four years since being traded. In 2004, the year the trade looked "horrible" Nick Johnson missed the first two months and last two months of the season.

"When he's healthy" is a pretty big qualifier.

2008-01-26 05:44:03
30.   OldYanksFan
"Morneau, the 2006 AL MVP, received the most lucrative contract in Twins history -- an $80 million, six-year deal. Cuddyer got three years and $24 million."

This seems like a great deal for the Twins. Getting an MVP for 6 years at $13m/yr is a steal. I was however surprised to see Justin with a career line of:
.276 .340 .498 .838.
That's slightly less then Jeter with a little more power.
.317 .388 .462 .850
It's still a good deal but makes me tkink that both Matsui's and Jeter's numbers translate to a 1bman pretty decently.

A wonder if the Twins/Santana would go for an extention of 5/$100, meaning he does one year more at $13m.

It's funny. Santana (or any other player) might jump ship for $20m. Yet that difference could easily be made up in how his salary is invested. These guys get to sit on fortures for decades. How wisely they invest their money would be a bigger factor it what they are left with then a few $m/yr for salary.

Should teams hire high end investment people to help 'rich' players grow their money? Should they get into ventures that are typically more profitable then stock/traditional investment and allow/encourage players to invest? I wounder if there are others ways to entice/keep players other then a straight dollar salary amount.

"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary

2008-01-26 05:50:49
31.   OldYanksFan
Ultimately, I think this is largely the same team that wasn't good enough last year, just older.
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But the team WAS good enough. They just happened to lose ONE 5 games series. That is meaningless. Also, while Jeter, ARod, Bobby, Jorge, JD and Mats are one year older, so are Phil, Joba, IPK, FrankenShelly, Cano, Melky and a bunch of other talent. All in all, this 'extra' year might be more beneficial than destructive, especially come PS.

Anyone can think and feel whatever they like, but it kills me when people make statements that they feel are 'proven' by one, or a few PS series. I thought we were pretty much agreed and understood that tiny (not small, but tiny!) sample size renders stats valueless.

2008-01-26 10:21:09
32.   Sonya Hennys Tutu
OYF I tend to agree with your assessment of the team - this year and last.

Overall, one thing that hasn't been factored in to the 1B discussion (at least not in this thread) are the questions coming down the pike. Namely:

1) Texiera - do we sign him?

and

2) Posada - not to mention Jeter - and the fact that we may have to relocate one or both of them to other positions in the not too distant future.

Tough to commit to doing "too much" at 1B now with those questions emerging IMO.

2008-01-26 10:33:28
33.   Bronxer