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Detroit Tigers Again
2007-08-24 10:01
by Cliff Corcoran

Picking up what I wrote about the Tigers in my quickie look at the AL contenders over on SI.com today, Detroit is playing terrible baseball right now, their best pitchers have been horrible since the break, and they just lost Gary Sheffield for this weekend's series. Picking up part of what I wrote about the Tigers when they came to the Stadium last week, Detroit has faired much better on the road than at home this year, though of late they've been equally awful no matter where they play. Seeing as the Yankees took three of four from the Tigers in the Bronx last weekend, they have not excuse not to do at least as well in Motown this weekend.

Other than losing Sheffield, which has bounced Sean Casey up to the three spot in the batting order, the big changes for the Tigers are the return of flame-throwing setup man Joel Zumaya, who took the loss in yesterday's rubber game against the Indians, and tonight's starter Andrew Miller. The left-handed Miller was the sixth overall pick in last year's draft and made his major league debut against the Yankees last year in a brief relief appearance mandated by his contract (he pitched a scoreless inning marred only by his plunking Craig Wilson). This year, he joined the Tiger rotation in June after pitching six scoreless innings in a spot start in mid-May. He's only turned in a quality start in three of his ten appearances since then--one of those coming by the slightest margin (three earned runs, but four total in six innings in Philadelphia)--and spent the last three weeks on the DL with a hamstring strain. In his last three starts before landing on the DL, Miller posted a 8.56 ERA, a 2.34 WHIP, and opposing hitters hit .367/.465/.550 against him. Miller is, of course, a much better pitcher than that, and in his brief major league career has held his fellow lefties to a .169/.324/.237 line, having never allowed a homer to a major league southpaw. Indeed, Shelley Duncan will start in place of Bobby Abreu in right field tonight and Andy Phillips will start at first base, though Johnny Damon does get the start at DH.

In other roster news, the Yankees have called up Brian Bruney and Pete Abe suspects it's Ron Villone who's been designated for assignment to make room for him. Bruney had made just four appearances since being demoted. Here's his line from those outings: 6 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 1 HR, 2 BB, 5 K, 1.17 WHIP, 6.00 ERA, 2-0, SV. Meanwhile, Chris Britton's line since coming off the DL at the beginning of the month: 11 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 9 K, 0.64 WHIP, 0.82 ERA, 1-1. Amazingly, even Bruney's 6.00 ERA is a significant improvement over the 7.59 mark Villone has posted in August, and that doesn't even include the inherited runners he's allowed to score.

Opposing Miller tonight will be Roger Clemens, who struck out eight Tigers and walked none while holding them to two runs over six innings in his last start. Clemens did spend a fair portion of that game in trouble, however, as he allowed ten hits, including the first hit and later the first home run of Cameron Maybin's major league career. Clemens has been everything the Yankees had hoped for since his stinker against the White Sox two starts ago, holding the Tigers and Blue Jays to three runs on 12 hits and a walk and striking out 14 in his last 12 innings. Clemens had similar success in his last visit to Comerica Park with the Astros last June, but suffered a hard luck loss as the 'Stros failed to score a single run for him. Here's hoping he avenges that loss tonight.

Detroit Tigers

2007 Record: 68-59 (.535)
2007 Pythagorean Record: 68-59 (.538)

Manager: Jim Leyland
General Manager: Dave Dombrowski

Home Ballpark (2007 Park Factors): Comerica Park (99/99)

Who's Replacing Whom?

Andrew Miller (DL) replaces Chad Durbin in the rotation and Zach Miner (minors) on the roster
Joel Zumaya (DL) replaces Aquilino Lopez (minors)

25-man Roster

1B - Sean Casey (L)
2B - Placido Polanco (R)
SS - Carlos Guillen (S)
3B - Brandon Inge (R)
C - Ivan Rodriguez (R)
RF - Magglio Ordoñez (R)
CF - Curtis Granderson (L)
LF - Cameron Maybin (R)
DH - Marcus Thames (R)

Bench:

R - Ryan Raburn (IF)
S - Mike Rabelo (C)
S - Ramon Santiago (IF)
R - Gary Sheffield (OF)*

Rotation:

R - Justin Verlander
L - Nate Robertson
L - Andrew Miller
R - Jeremy Bonderman
R - Jair Jurrjens

Bullpen:

R - Todd Jones
R - Joel Zumaya
R - Fernando Rodney
R - Jason Grilli
L - Bobby Seay
L - Tim Byrdak
R - Chad Durbin

15-day DL: L - Kenny Rogers
60-day DL: R - Vance Wilson (C), S - Tony Giarratano (IF), L - Edward Campusano
Restricted List: S - Neifi Perez (IF)

Typical Lineup:

L - Curtis Granderson (CF)
R - Placido Polanco (2B)
L - Sean Casey (1B)
R - Magglio Ordoñez (RF)
S - Carlos Guillen (SS)
R - Ivan Rodriguez (C)
R - Marcus Thames (LF)
R - Brandon Inge (3B)
R - Cameron Maybin (LF)

*will miss the series due to a shoulder injury

Comments (704)
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2007-08-24 13:32:18
1.   Yankee Fan In Boston
i enjoyed the cut-to-the-chase refresher over at SI.com, cliff.

this series will be big.

also, peter abraham is speculating that ron villone might have been DFA'd (over at LoHud).

2007-08-24 13:37:45
2.   Cliff Corcoran
I've updated the above post with info on Bruney etc.
2007-08-24 13:48:34
3.   Chyll Will
If someone somehow found out why Britton's not up here already, would that knowledge somehow disrupt the space-time continuum?
2007-08-24 13:55:40
4.   tommyl
3 Maybe they keep thinking Bruney is Britton. You know, they are in a rush to get out the door and say to their assistant, "Call up that Br...kid!" and then Bruney appears.

Either that or George Constanza wants to be lead scout for the Mets.

2007-08-24 14:05:15
5.   yankz
It's clearly because Torre's a racist.

Seriously, Britton had to have hit on his wife at the spring training party or something.

2007-08-24 14:18:08
6.   monkeypants
According to Pete Abe, Villone was DFA'd. If true, is that the second time he has been released by the team this year?
2007-08-24 14:19:38
7.   monkeypants
6 In other news, I just actually read Cliff's article, which reported what I posted.

I'm an idiot. Let the mockery begin.

2007-08-24 14:22:53
8.   Jersey
7 mock mock mock I says

Actually, the Star Ledger is reporting Villone is going to the DL with a back strain...?

2007-08-24 14:23:22
9.   JL25and3
4 "You know...the fat one."
2007-08-24 14:28:14
10.   Jersey
Hey, there's Mike Myers, back from the dead. Walking Ortiz and Manny. Eeesh.
2007-08-24 14:30:22
11.   JL25and3
10 I don't care what his splits look like this year - Mike Myers should never be allowed to face Manny Ramirez. For god's sake, think of the children!
2007-08-24 14:35:38
12.   Jersey
11 Or Lowell, or Kielty, or Varitek, or Pukilis, or....

Duck Mike Duck!

2007-08-24 14:42:32
13.   spufi2007
I hope they're enjoying Myers here in the Windy City. And they have an option on him for next year too at a mere $1.1M! (bargain at twice the price)
2007-08-24 14:57:48
14.   spufi2007
11-3 final. Well, glad to see the Pale Hose are still trying....
2007-08-24 15:04:57
15.   JL25and3
13 Well, the White Sox getting him virtually for free this year. The Yankees are paying him to get pounded by the Red Sox.
2007-08-24 15:12:07
16.   randym77
Whoa, the Braves DFA'd Bob Wickman. That's kinda weird. He hasn't been that awful.
2007-08-24 15:15:23
17.   monkeypants
16 I bet he could earn a big slice on the wheel of guts, real fast.
2007-08-24 15:20:13
18.   monkeypants
16 More seriously, his ERA is ok, not great...but his 1.5+ WHIP is s-c-a-r-y for a reliever.
2007-08-24 15:46:23
19.   randym77
18 Good point.

He gave up a walkoff homer to Adam Dunn last night, and apparently sealed his own doom.

2007-08-24 15:54:33
20.   thelarmis
19 that was the 2nd walkoff homer wickman allowed to dunn. he was with the tribe the last time, however. i guess the bravos will go with r. soriano in the 8th and dotel in the 9th...
2007-08-24 15:57:54
21.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
I'd like to hear folks impressions of Miller tonight.

I won't be watching the game, but I heard a dire report on Miller about 3 weeks ago from Steve Stone, the former Orioles et al pitcher who used to do color for the Cubs and now has a show on sportstalk here in Chicago.

Stone -- who I find generally trustworthy, especially when it comes to pitching -- had been in Detroit and had seen Miller pitch -- I think just before he went on the dl with the hammy -- and predicted serious arm trouble for Miller.

Stone said he suspected the hammy was an early sign of trouble, and that the big issue was the extent to which Miller throws across his body.

He said he never would've advised a team to team to take a pitcher with Miller's mechanics, and that Miller would within the next year or 2 wind up on the dl with serious arm trouble, and that if he came back from it he'd have to radically change his mechanics.

2007-08-24 16:05:10
22.   Kered Retej
0 Nice job on the SI article Cliff, though the most entertaining part of it for me is all of the comments from people who haven't clicked on the link to the BP Postseason Odds page, and obviously have no idea what that means.
2007-08-24 16:13:10
23.   williamnyy23
Villone was placed on the 15-day DL with a back strain.

I wonder if the Tigers will think twice of pitching Miller, who is recovering from a hamstring, on the wet mound?

2007-08-24 16:21:09
24.   bobtaco
3 I emailed Pete this morning with that very question. No response back, yet.
2007-08-24 16:45:34
25.   bartap74
3 Seriously, the numbers are so stark, how is it that nobody in the mainstream media has flat out asked Torre or, more importantly, Cashman, why Britton is not on the major league roster?
2007-08-24 17:04:58
26.   randym77
Is there going to be a game tonight?
2007-08-24 17:23:32
27.   OldYanksFan
http://weather.yahoo.com/img/us_dtw_closeradar_medium_usen.html
2007-08-24 17:35:34
28.   rbj
The tornado sirens here in Toledo did go off this evening, during my Aikido class (actually we're doing judo on Friday nights now.) Looks like there are going to be a bunch of cells going through the area tonight. We had one 30 minute storm, then it cleared, now it's raining again I'd prefer the game gets postponed til tomorrow rather than have Rocket pitch 3-4 innings, then have another rain delay forcing an early bullpen.

Got my ticket for Sunday's game. Can't wait to finally see Phil the Future in person.

2007-08-24 17:44:04
29.   ny2ca2dc
Looks like it'll happen, from Petey:

UPDATE, 8:39 p.m.: The rain has stopped and the grounds crew is preparing to pull the tarp. And the casino managers breathe a sigh of relief as i won't be cleaning them out until later on.

I'll let you know when they announce a start time.

2007-08-24 18:05:05
30.   Chyll Will
24 Maybe his flux capacitor is on the fritz.

25 I honestly believe someone has asked that question and got either no response or a meandering non-answer. Is there anything in Britton's makeup that would suggest that he'd be a danger to the clubhouse (like Colter Bean vs. the post-game spread)?

2007-08-24 18:10:22
31.   rbj
30 I think there's just a homophone problem.

Cashman: "We're thinking of bringing up that Britton kid."

Torre: "Britain? I don't need no freakin' British kid, they don't even play baseball. You bring him up and he'll just sit on the bench."

2007-08-24 18:12:37
32.   tommyl
I am very upset no one is using my nickname for Britton anymore: The Make a Wish Kid.

Sigh.

2007-08-24 18:19:27
33.   Chyll Will
31 Do you think that when Torre here's Britton's... er, "The Make A Wish Kid"'s name 32 , he's thinking, "cricket, cricket..." ?
2007-08-24 18:21:14
34.   Sliced Bread
By decree of King Cashman, I knight thee, Chris Britton.......

Sir Waitsalot!

Sliced Bread misses outside, ball 1.

We now return to the red wine, and the first pitch of tonight's Yankees Tigers game.

2007-08-24 18:22:42
35.   tommyl
Any update on a game time out there?
2007-08-24 18:31:16
36.   SF Yanks
Someone please give me an update on Yankee land. Any chance for a game tonight? Happening soon? Something? Anything?
2007-08-24 18:32:58
37.   rbj
From Peter:

UPDATE, 9:28 p.m.: This is odd. They pulled the tarp, cleaned up the field and now the tarp is back down.

Gotta make sure the dirt is all neat under the tarp. The severe t-storm warning has been cancelled, but there's still rain in the area. Call the game, everyone goes to bed early and play two tomorrow.

2007-08-24 18:33:10
38.   JL25and3
30 This is another case where I have to believe that there is a reason. I don't know what it is, and so far they're not saying, but I have to believe that they know something that the stats aren't telling us.

It's not like they've been reluctant to bring people up from the minors. They've even seen some of the kids have bad outings and either kept them around, or sent them down and brought them back up later. Clearly it's something about Britton in particular, because they've really gone the extra mile to avoid bringing him up.

Some will attribute this to the complete ignorance and stupidity of Yankee management. I find that hard to buy. They see the stats, same as we do; they get reports from the SWB coaches, and probably Nardi Contreras as well; they've seen him in the majors as well as the minors. I really find it difficult to believe that they simply ignore all that information and randomly decide to bring up everyone else in the system instead of Britton.

I have to believe that, in all those brains - Cashman, Torre, Guidry, Dave Eiland, Dave Miley, Contreras - there are enough combined brain cells, and enough baseball awareness, so that somebody would have said: "Hey, how about this Britton kid?"

So while I have no idea what the reason is, I believe there is one.

2007-08-24 18:35:05
39.   Andre
yes please. I can't listen to the annoying music on extra innings anymore. If you haven't heard it yet you don't know what you're missing.
2007-08-24 18:40:22
40.   SF Yanks
We lost a full game to the Red Sox without even playing a game.
2007-08-24 18:40:53
41.   rbj
Looks like Tiger fans are just as confused:
http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/
Not gonna put the full link to the comments, it'd probably wreck the formatting here, but
read the comments from #30 on. Raining again, but rumors of a 9:30 - 10 pm start.
2007-08-24 18:41:39
42.   rbj
40 Thank you very fucking much, Ozzie. You're one guy I do not want replacing Torre.
2007-08-24 18:43:13
43.   OldYanksFan
Boston sweeps the DH. Seattle up 2-0. Not Good.
2007-08-24 18:43:37
44.   Eric
38 you think too highly of the Yankees braintrust. Trust me there is no valid reason.
2007-08-24 18:45:41
45.   Vandelay Industries
Was this grounds crew hired from a Home Depot parking lot or something?
2007-08-24 18:48:15
46.   tommyl
38 He's not on the DL so we know he's not hurt. He was a very good pitcher in the majors last year. He was excellent when they brought him up for a cup of coffee (and then sent him back down for no good reason). Since coming off the DL he has been much better than Bruney at AAA. This isn't a AAAA player. He was good last year at the big league level. He was good this year at that level.

So what the hell is the reason?

While you're thinking that one over. What was the reason behind calling up Ron Villone in the first place?

2007-08-24 18:51:06
47.   Max
44 I'm assuming this is sarcasm, or a very good parody of one of the more frothing "Free Chris Britton" posters on Pete Abraham's blog (or for that matter, the Banter).
2007-08-24 18:52:31
48.   monkeypants
46 Villone was called up b/c he was left handed and was perceived to be able to go as a 'long man.' The foolishness that was trusting Villone is independent of the inexplicable mistrust of Britton.
2007-08-24 18:54:45
49.   JL25and3
44 Well, that changes everything. Now that you've assured me that you know more than the entire Yankee front office and farm system, I can rest easier. Thanks for setting me straight.
2007-08-24 18:55:36
50.   tommyl
48 Yes, I was making that as a further point that the collective brains sometimes make incorrect or weird decisions. Look, maybe they have a good reason for not calling him up, but its tough to see. He can pitch better than some of the current members of the bullpen and he doesn't seem like the type to trash the clubhouse or show up to work drunk. So if there's a reason, it'd better be a good one because he satisfies my two criteria:

1. Not a schmuck

2. Can pitch

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2007-08-24 18:57:12
51.   Zack
The White Sox are more useless right now than the D-Rays...scary...
2007-08-24 18:57:33
52.   JL25and3
46 I hear what you're saying, and I obviously don't have a good answer. But it's not like we're outsmarting them with advanced sabermetric stats or anything; this is just ERA, Ks and so on.

So I'd turn the question around; what do you think is the reason? Do you really think that it's because the Yankees somehow don't know the things we do, or are so stupid that they don't care - essentially, that they ignore all relevant information when making a decision?

2007-08-24 18:57:59
53.   rbj
Signing off, good night all.
2007-08-24 19:03:27
54.   JL25and3
50 For a long time, I was willing to chalk it up to understandable but bad decisions. As 48 said, there were reasons that they brought up (and stuck with) Villone rather than Britton. We may disagree with those reasons, we may think it was an egregiously bad decision - but I think we can all understand what their reasoning was.

But now it's at the point where they've pushed a prized prospect from the rotation into the bullpen, where they've used Brower and Karstens and now Bruney before Britton. Now it's not just a matter of setting the wrong priorities; it either makes sense in light of info we don't have access to, or they actually know nothing at all about baseball. The latter doesn't make sense to me, so I'll have to believe the former.

I suspect that someday we'll learn the reason.

2007-08-24 19:03:44
55.   Eric
52 Steve Goldman has often made the point that the Yankees have tremedous difficulty trusting their young pitching prospects, the fact that they have let Hughes & Chamberlain pitch is a minor miracle. BTW Scott Proctor still sucks
2007-08-24 19:07:48
56.   ny2ca2dc
54 Shot in the dark: they're preparing to bring Britton up at the last minute and don't want the advance scouts to get a look at him. *Shrug* I'm as perplexed as you are, and I'm pretty much right with you on this one.

55 How's Procter been doing? You been keeping track? He's still a likeable guy, I hope he does OK.

2007-08-24 19:11:27
57.   Eric
56 not really just watching a little bit of the Mets game to get a baseball fix until the Yankees game starts. Proctor gave up his usual run in one inning and committed a balk.
2007-08-24 19:13:01
58.   JeremyM
The Britton deal is just infuriating, because you know Bruney is not going to do a good job based on his performance over the last few months. And apparently he stormed off after being demoted. I like a guy to have fire and want to stay in the bigs, but I also want a guy to recognize when he's been pitching like crap and take ownership of that fact.

I thought they had a real find in Bruney last season, but he doesn't seem to have what it takes, so give Britton a freaking shot.

2007-08-24 19:13:26
59.   williamnyy23
I wonder if Britton isn't being promoted because of his weight? Or, maybe he committed some unpublicized infraction? Absent that, I can't imagine one good reason he hasn't been promoted. I also don't buy the "they know more than we do argument" because while that might be true in this case, that shouldn't be the starting point.

Sadly, I think the answer is probably something like Torre and Cashman compromised on the bullpen. Maybe Torre told Cash he wasn't comfortable with so many youngins,