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Keep Hope Alive
2007-08-21 14:07
by Cliff Corcoran

Why do Yankee fans loathe the Angels so? There's the simple fact that no other team, not even the Red Sox, has a winning record against the Yankees since Joe Torre's arrival in the Bronx in 1996. Derek Jeter is fond of saying that boos on the road are the same as cheers at home. Yankee fans hate the Angels because the Angels have tortured them over the past decade. Indeed, with last night's win, the Angels won the season series from the Yankees for the fourth year in a row. Here's another simple fact: Since the end of World War II, only two teams have defeated the Yankees more than once in the postseason. The first is the Dodgers, against whom the Yankees hold a 7-3 advantage in postseason play (all World Series, of course, the most recent coming in 1981). The other is the Angels, who are 2-0 against the Yankees in the postseason, knocking them out in the first round twice in the last five years.

Quick note on last night's game: Phil Hughes said after the game that he knew from the get-go that he didn't have his stuff. Given that, it's pretty impressive that he was able to hold the Angels down after giving up that bases-clearing double to Jeff Mathis on a hanging curve in the second (though Hughes was charged with five runs in total, Luis Vizcaino had as much to do with the last two as Hughes did). Hughes was also really bothered by the five walks he issued. He said he wasn't sure he'd ever given up five walks total in back-to-back starts before, let alone in a single start. Looking over his minor league record without the benefit of game logs, he could very well be right. Hughes walked just 66 men in 54 minor league appearances (53 of them starts).

As for tonight, here's hoping Mike Mussina has his stuff (or his scuff). He sure as heck didn't in his last start in the opener against the Tigers. Moose had four strong start before that however and, unlike Hughes, has walked just four men over his last five starts, that disaster included. Mussina last faced the Halos in late May, turning in a strong outing (6 1/3 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 6 K, 0 HR), only to have the Yankee offense struggle and Scott Proctor blow the Yankees' slim lead. Sometimes it seems that could describe every game the Yankees have played against the Angels over the past four years.

The Yanks really have their work cut out for them tonight as they face one of the hottest pitchers in the league. Kelvim Escobar is second in the AL with a 2.68 ERA, but he's been far better than that over the last two months. In his last start in June, Escobar allowed seven runs in 4 1/3 innings to the Orioles. Since then he's posted a 1.56 ERA, averaged 7 1/3 innings per starts, and allowed one, count it, one home run in eight starts (congratulations, Travis Buck). Escobar has allowed more than one earned run in just two of those eight starts and in his last outing he struck out nine Blue Jays in seven innings and walked none. The Yankees last faced Escobar the day before Mussina's start in late May and saw more of the same: 7 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 8 K, 0 HR. Yes, Escobar is pitching over his head, but only slightly. His BABIP is a favorable, but not fluky, .289, and he's been succeeding beyond his usual level by suppressing hits and homers. He has not, however shown the increase in groundball rate that might explain those decreased rates.

There are some positives the Yankees can latch on to. First, 15 of the 17 men who have tried to steal against Escobar this season have been successful, that's a tremendous 88 percent success rate (on his career, baserunners have stolen at an 80 percent clip). Second, though Escobar has dominated his last eight starts, the Angels have only won five of them due to poor run support. Over that stretch, the Halos have scored just 3.5 runs per game on Escobar's behalf. Of course they just dropped seven on the Yanks last night, but you gotta have something to cling to, right?

With Jorge Posada having caught five games in a row including ten innings last night, Jose Molina starts behind the plate against his old team tonight. The hot-hitting Andy Phillips is at first. Jason Giambi will DH.

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2007-08-21 16:05:58
1.   Jeb
I'm thinking positive. The Yanks will win tonight. Here's why:

1. As a team, the Yanks only bat .265 against Escobar, but several guys have good averages including: (a) Jeter (.348); (b) ARod (.379); (c) Abreu (.333); (d) Matsui (.375); (e) Giambi (.353); and Cano (.375). Some are small sample sizes, but I'll take them.

2. As a team, the Yanks have a .348 OBP against Escobar.

3. Mussina's held the Angels to a .255 team batting average. He owns Vlad. Yeah yeah, I know that most of those numbers were created when the man was throwing in the low 90's but dammit, HE's DUE!

4. The Angels had an emotional win. The Yanks looked PO'd walking off the field, so there's the immeasurable and yet inevitable "LET DOWN" intangible factor. Don't y'all love intangibles?

5. Joba can go 2 innings tonight, Edwar can pitch too, maybe even 2 innings. I bet even Mo could throw an inning. That means Moose only needs to go 5 innings.

6. K-Rod (man I hate him) pitched 1.2 on Friday, and an inning on Sunday and again last night. He threw 20 pitches last night and looked just a little labored, which is why Darren Oliver pitched.

7. Because STONE COLD SAYS SO!

GO YANKEES!

2007-08-21 16:17:17
2.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
"First, 15 of the 17 men who have tried to steal against Escobar this season have been successful, that's a tremendous 88 percent success rate (on his career, baserunners have stolen at an 80 percent clip)."

Great, so we can look forward to Scioscia calling even more throws over to first tonight from the mound and the catcher.

2007-08-21 16:18:22
3.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Note to Sonnanstine:

When Papi's up, and you have 3 balls on him, and first base open, just effin walk the guy.

2007-08-21 16:49:24
4.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
Just posting so that people realize there are two different bombers fans in chicago
2007-08-21 16:51:17
5.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
I'm the better looking one.
2007-08-21 17:09:24
6.   Vandelay Industries
Bases loaded and one out in Tampa. Looks like another Sox win in the making.
2007-08-21 17:09:47
7.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
Yeah, but I pull more tail.
2007-08-21 17:10:55
8.   weeping for brunnhilde
Hey, Team, have I got a story for you.

I've been spending a lot of time in Brooklyn, lately, Park Slope, to be precise.

First of all, what is up with the fucking Boston caps in the neighborhood?

I was trying to be liberal and tolerant and multicultural, day in and day out, with each 'B'-cap I saw.

"That's weird," I'd remark.

Eventually, it ceased to be weird and became downright irritating.

What the hell? I lived in that neighborhood in the late
'90s and I never saw a Boston cap. Perhaps the odd cap that I wouldn't even have noticed because it was, in fact, the odd cap.

Tolerance, right?

So I'm wondering if anyone has an explanation.

Second of all, in the same neighborhood, I was made to feel uncomfortable in a sports bar for, get this, being too animated.

It was Sunday's game, and someone hit a ball just under Alex's glove in a big spot (Chien-Ming's start?) and I responded with my usual theatrics.

She snapped at me, "Dude, I like the Yankees too, but you're freaking me out."

Did I mention this was a sports bar?

What kind of world is it where someone makes you feel subconscious about caring about your team IN A SPORTS BAR???

Craziness.

Ok, so as for tonight, raise your hand if you have a good feeling about Mike.

(My hand is decidedly not raised.)

2007-08-21 17:10:58
9.   Vandelay Industries
Yep.....one run in and counting.
2007-08-21 17:13:16
10.   weeping for brunnhilde
1 You really think Joe will manage to use Joba for two tonight?

What if he uses him in the seventh and then goes, "You know, that Farnsworth's really showing me something...Chamberlain's arm...Two days off..."

2007-08-21 17:16:54
11.   Vandelay Industries
I think we should start by scoring some runs and fixing the bad news bears defense before we worry about anyone having to hold down a lead. Please remember, its Moose tonight, which I think is a good thing, gulp. It's teams with actual hitters in the lineup that shell him, not lineups with only one slugger, I hope!
2007-08-21 17:18:10
12.   Vandelay Industries
Two more runs in and counting, while Tampa has yet to record the second out.

Put the division out of your head boys and girls.

I am so glad I didn't shell out big bucks to get tickets and drive to Anaheim tonight.

2007-08-21 17:20:31
13.   weeping for brunnhilde
12 Never say die!
2007-08-21 17:25:08
14.   yankeemonkey
12 Sheesh, if you are so doom-and-gloomy, why even bother watching the games?
2007-08-21 17:26:42
15.   weeping for brunnhilde
In the spirit of optimism, I'd like to point out that Mike could, in fact, come up big tonight.

It wouldn't be unprecedented.

2007-08-21 17:28:55
16.   yankeemonkey
Meanwhile, gopher balls are once again flying out of the Metrodome...
2007-08-21 17:30:12
17.   weeping for brunnhilde
Did you guys know Bobby Meacham is San Diego's first base coach?
2007-08-21 17:30:17
18.   Vandelay Industries
Dude. I am not morphing into a Sox fan overnight. Get your hopes up only to have them dashed while standing near the pinnacle of achievement. Do I think they can win the division? You bet! Am I going to think about it anymore? No fucking way. I poo pooed Cliff and others all season for saying that the division was likely out of reach and calling it way too early, but be real man. It aint happening, barring some miracle.

Beltre HR. Jesus Christ! Seattle up 2-0, one out in the second.

Funny stuff though. I am watching the WSOP. Brad Garrett just got eliminated. I wonder if it was the sight of all those brown skinned people out and about in Vegas?

2007-08-21 17:32:06
19.   Vandelay Industries
14 I am not doom and gloomy. I think the Yankees are playing pretty good ball. I just think it came about two months too late.
2007-08-21 17:32:07
20.   Alex Belth
8) That is a great note about Park Slope. I lived in Carroll Gardens from 94-2000 and I knew of exactly one Red Sox fan in my neighborhood and he was a bitter dick. Brooklyn is not the only place where Sox fans have sprouted up like a weeds in NYC, but it is one of the most glaring. It's what happens when your team is good and a lot of young people who move to NYC have known the Sox only to be a pretty darn good team. I think the Red Sox heartbreak is much different for Sox fans who are too young to remember 86. The stuff in the late 90s early 00s to the Yankees wasn't fun but it wasn't crushing. Plus the Sox have just been a good, competitive team for a long time.

As for tonight, against all reason, I say the Yanks win pretty easily. Maybe 8-3, something like that.

2007-08-21 17:33:19
21.   weeping for brunnhilde
You know what's funny about Sterling?

For a guy who's quick to understate the significance of stats, he sure talks about them a lot.

"I could give you stats all day, what do stats really mean, but Jorgie is now 24-46, 24-40 if you go back to July 3."

I don't know how the man fritters away his broadcasts, but it sure isn't by talking about the game at hand.

2007-08-21 17:41:29
22.   weeping for brunnhilde
20 That makes a lot of sense. They're all, say, 35 and below.

Does that mean that if we crush Boston maybe a couple years running the caps will disappear in Brooklyn?

I'd say that's more incentive than a ring.

2007-08-21 17:44:42
23.   Mattpat11
21 I love nothing more than stats from seemingly completely arbitrary dates.

The Yankees are the best team in baseball since July 22!

Where the hell does that date come from?

2007-08-21 17:51:11
24.   Zack
20 Alex, I would say it extends beyond just the Pats too. I notice the same thing with the Patriots, who, up until 2000, were the 4th most popular team in New England, behind the Sox, Celtics, and Bruins (if not even the Giants, who had a huge following up there). But with the popularity of football on the rise, and the history of the Pats in the mid to late 80s on being relatively successful, factored into the recent run, and its quite similar. Lots and lots of young, cocky Pats fans with a sense of entitlement not unlike certain yankee fans...
2007-08-21 17:52:30
25.   Zack
And on another note, the D-Rays suck. Why did we have to play the Angels while the Sox got the Rays?
2007-08-21 17:52:57
26.   Zack
24 that should say "beyond just the SOX too"
2007-08-21 17:58:22
27.   weeping for brunnhilde
23 Yeah, that's what was funny about '98, with the 1-4 start.

Sterling kept having to factor out that 1-4 start (in Seattle, was it?) in order to make the team sound EVEN BETTER. He must have done that through the entire month of May, at least.

2007-08-21 18:09:11
28.   Mattpat11
So, in other news, we're screwed, aren't we.
2007-08-21 18:20:50
29.   weeping for brunnhilde
I'm watching an interview of Mike Sosia by John Flaherty.

I like Sosia.

He seems a very decent fellow.

2007-08-21 18:28:37
30.   yankeemonkey
29 Except when he's trying to get into a fight with Frank Robinson.
2007-08-21 18:28:50
31.   Vandelay Industries
28 Only if you mean by losing tonight we will fall six games back o' the Sox and 2.5 games behind Seattle, Seattle with four fewer losses, then yes, we are.
2007-08-21 18:30:49
32.   Vandelay Industries
30 Here here! I actually wrote a piece on that for my fantasy league. What made it worse is that Donnelly was obviously cheating, and Scioscia saw the need to challnge one of Frank's pitchers who was doing nothing wrong, in retaliation for Petroleum Jelly Belly Brendan Donnelly.
2007-08-21 18:31:35
33.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
29 Ugh. Ask Frank Howard about that.

Meanwhile, to add salt to the wounds from last night, the Sawx somehow succeeded in turning Whiffy-Mo into an actual prospect, getting Chris Carter from Arizona via Washington. WTF!!!!

2007-08-21 18:31:36
34.   weeping for brunnhilde
31 Six is all right. We're now in the 4-6 games back range whereas we were in the 7-9 games back range.

We've made progress.

If we can stay in the 4-6 rather than 7-9 range by the time we face Boston, at least we'll have a fighting chance, which is all I ask for.

2007-08-21 18:34:34
35.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
At least Lester had another typical weak outing. 5.1 ip, 4 hits, 4 walks, 2 homers, 5 er.
2007-08-21 18:52:08
36.   Max
Falling six games behind Boston doesn't bother me half as much as falling four games behind Seattle (in the loss column), for some reason. I like the way the team is playing and the schedule is favorable, but it sure would be nicer if we weren't constantly going uphill.
2007-08-21 18:54:26
37.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
36 Get a lot of Mariners games on tv over here, and can confidently say there is no way they will keep it up. They still have Sexon in the lineup at under .200!
2007-08-21 18:55:09
38.   weeping for brunnhilde
36 I know, but it's not that kind of a year.
2007-08-21 19:06:01
39.   weeping for brunnhilde
Btw, anyone know where Mike's velocity was last game?

Last I recall, he was up to 88, even 89, in these past few weeks.

2007-08-21 19:08:41
40.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow, the Mets just win in dramatic style in the ninth.

That was nice baseball.

2007-08-21 19:11:31
41.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn it!

Tight defense, these Californias.

2007-08-21 19:12:50
42.   Mattpat11
Well, that sucked.

And here comes Mussina.

2007-08-21 19:13:03
43.   weeping for brunnhilde
Good, Bobby.

Get mad.

2007-08-21 19:13:40
44.   Mattpat11
40 I was there. Stadium gun had 91 a couple times. I'd say he was sitting 89 most of the time.
2007-08-21 19:13:47
45.   Yankees Brasil
Why?! man, bad start..
2007-08-21 19:14:47
46.   weeping for brunnhilde
89 All right, well that's serviceable.

He can do this.

(You can do this, Mike.)

2007-08-21 19:15:18
47.   weeping for brunnhilde
89 ?

I have no idea.

2007-08-21 19:15:42
48.   weeping for brunnhilde
Figgins is the majors' best hitter since July 1.

:)

2007-08-21 19:15:43
49.   Yankees Brasil
He better have that same strike zone to Moose..
2007-08-21 19:15:50
50.   Benjamin Kabak
Jeter's now slugging under .400 since the All Star Break.
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2007-08-21 19:16:31
51.   Mattpat11
48 At least July 1st is a normal start date. Its not June 19th.
2007-08-21 19:16:37
52.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow, that's a sharp break to the breaking ball there.

That's a good sign.

2007-08-21 19:17:05
53.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ball four.
2007-08-21 19:17:09
54.   Mattpat11
Well, here we go.
2007-08-21 19:17:24
55.   Benjamin Kabak
52 Throwing that breaking ball for strikes would be a good sign...
2007-08-21 19:18:05
56.   JeremyM
When Figgins walked, did someone fire a shotgun to signal the start of the track meet?
2007-08-21 19:18:28
57.   JeremyM
56 I mean handgun.
2007-08-21 19:18:54
58.   weeping for brunnhilde
55 Indeed.
2007-08-21 19:19:31
59.   Mattpat11
56 I heard a toilet flush
2007-08-21 19:19:55
60.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, fuckkk.

He was out.

Can't even catch a break.

2007-08-21 19:20:00
61.   Benjamin Kabak
I see Mussina is employing the old "pitch around Figgins and Cabrera to face Vlad" strategy. I don't think he's really thought this one through.
2007-08-21 19:20:01
62.   Mattpat11
57 No, you got it the first time.
2007-08-21 19:20:08
63.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ball four, again.
2007-08-21 19:20:20
64.   Mattpat11
Figgins was out by three feet.
2007-08-21 19:20:21
65.   Vandelay Industries
Get Villone up.
2007-08-21 19:20:48
66.   weeping for brunnhilde
62 ha ha hah ah aha h a.
2007-08-21 19:21:05
67.   Vandelay Industries
64 It was there in time, but Jete missed the tag on the knee.
2007-08-21 19:21:05
68.   Mike T
Two walks to start things. Awesome.
2007-08-21 19:21:07
69.   weeping for brunnhilde
Hey, Vlad, welcome to the Hotel Mike.

Enjoy your stay.

2007-08-21 19:21:12
70.   fansince77
Figgins was out...why no to do? That was a clear thrown out runner.
2007-08-21 19:21:46
71.   Benjamin Kabak
70 You expect Derek to actually, you know, argue about something? HAH. Comedian.
2007-08-21 19:21:47
72.   Mattpat11
Dan Iassogna has butchered calls two nights in a row.
2007-08-21 19:21:48