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Mr. Brightside
2007-05-05 09:43
by Cliff Corcoran

Last night was ugly, but the Yankees have still won four of their last six games and have Chien-Ming Wang, the only baseball player to make Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People list this year, starting for them today against the Jeff Weaver and his 18.26 ERA.

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2007-05-05 12:38:10
1.   randym77
Tommy John surgery for Pavano. Out a year to 18 months.

And he missed his plane, and hence his doctor's appointment.

Methinks he's in the doghouse, big-time.

2007-05-05 12:40:19
2.   Count Zero
1 Never heard of him....

Let's hope we get 7+ out of Wang today. We need it badly considering what we are likely to get the next two days.

2007-05-05 12:50:05
3.   Vandelay Industries
Anyone have the link for the game on MLB.tv?
2007-05-05 12:52:24
4.   Vandelay Industries
1

I guess signing Ted Lilly, Keeping John Lieber and El Duque wasn't such a bad idea after all. Why do that when you have a bunch of bums in AAA and AA, Phil Hughes and Carl Pavano though, right?

2007-05-05 12:52:28
5.   JimCobain
3 Not on mlb.tv the game is on FOX.

Anyone else expecting the Yankees to go down 1-2-3 to Weaver in the first? Just thier luck that Weaver would rediscover something today.

2007-05-05 12:54:26
6.   Vandelay Industries
5

Its still on MLB.tv for international viewers I think. Please dont make me watch the Angels, pretty pretty please. It is on MLB.tv because you will be able to get it in the archives after today. Am I wrong?

2007-05-05 12:56:22
7.   Vandelay Industries
5

It could be worse. Could have been Erstad standing in Center last night letting a fly ball drop right behind him. Luckily they were west coast fans and it wasnt that bad for him.

2007-05-05 12:56:58
8.   randym77
IIRC, last week some people used foreign proxies in order to watch the game, even though it was on Fox.
2007-05-05 12:57:18
9.   Vandelay Industries
8

Yes. Does anyone have it?

2007-05-05 12:57:39
10.   thelarmis
stoopid FOX is showing giants/phillies game here in atlanta. : /
2007-05-05 13:02:11
11.   RIYank
Oh, yeah, so that's what actual ML Baseball is like. After last night I thought maybe it was all a dream.
2007-05-05 13:06:23
12.   thelarmis
how loud were the boos for weaver - a smattering or downpouring?
2007-05-05 13:07:41
13.   JimCobain
Nauturally 1-2-3. Oy.
2007-05-05 13:09:01
14.   RIYank
I'd say smattering. Anyway I didn't really notice, so it couldn't have been a torrent.
2007-05-05 13:09:03
15.   Emma Span
I was just trying to imagine what the Yankees' last two seasons would have been like without Chien-Ming Wang. It doesn't bear thinking about.

12 Because Fox is run by drugged wombats, they showed Jason Patric reading the lineup instead of the fan reaction to Weaver.

2007-05-05 13:11:16
16.   RIYank
15 I once went to a concert where the Drugged Wombats opened for Midnight Oil.
2007-05-05 13:12:45
17.   thelarmis
jason patrick = the lost boys. how fitting!

jon lieber just threw a 1-2-3 inning on my fox broadcast w/ mark grace & duane kuiper.

really wish i could see my yanks today. : /

2007-05-05 13:13:35
18.   thelarmis
16 that kicks ass! hope you saved the ticket stub... ; )
2007-05-05 13:14:41
19.   RIYank
Good to see C-M back in the saddle.
2007-05-05 13:15:29
20.   Simone
Either Buck or McCarver said, "those piercing eyes of Jason Patrick." I mean, I agree, but come on ... LOL!

What a mistake the Pavano signing. Should have signed Gil Meche in the off season.

2007-05-05 13:24:08
21.   Simone
Jorgie is hot!
2007-05-05 13:26:57
22.   RIYank
... but Robbie is not.
2007-05-05 13:27:18
23.   RIYank
... and Jason is slllllowwwww.
2007-05-05 13:30:33
24.   OldYanksFan
Question: Was Iggy throwing his curveball the other night... and if so, was it being hit? I think his fastball is only effective after a batter has seen the curve and changeup.
2007-05-05 13:33:50
25.   OldYanksFan
Robbie is very talented, but his lack of plate judgement is VERY frustrating. Can't the Yankees do something about that? How many balls in the dirt and over his head does to have to swing at?

Being patient and taking walks is the hallmark of this team, and one of the reasons for it's success. I don't think Melky and Cano should be allowed to not conform.

2007-05-05 13:38:44
26.   JimCobain
That was an odd play at first not sure if Melky touched the bag...
2007-05-05 13:39:22
27.   JimCobain
26 Guess he didn't nice break for the Yanks let's make Weaver pay.
2007-05-05 13:39:40
28.   randym77
Melky didn't touch the bag. We got a break there.
2007-05-05 13:39:47
29.   Simone
Coaching of base running is needed.

Don't bunt, Derek, don't do it!

2007-05-05 13:40:44
30.   Simone
What a break there. Derek, stop bunting!
2007-05-05 13:40:48
31.   Vandelay Industries
McCarver is an idiot. They couldnt tag Cabrera, Weaver was blocking his path without the ball. Shouldnt they at least know the rues? Once Weaver got in front of Cabrera down near the bag, he was safe.
2007-05-05 13:41:23
32.   brockdc
And let the Weaver meltdown commence!
2007-05-05 13:41:40
33.   JimCobain
The way the season is going Abreu will hit into a triple play...
2007-05-05 13:42:45
34.   Simone
Melky, come on! At least, a run is in.
2007-05-05 13:43:05
35.   randym77
Melky is fast but he's not a good baserunner.

Jeez, I hope he's not hurt too bad.

2007-05-05 13:43:16
36.   Vandelay Industries
Melky you putz!
2007-05-05 13:44:53
37.   brockdc
33 Close, but no cigar.
2007-05-05 13:46:37
38.   brockdc
If this were Jeff Weaver circa '03, he would've just given up 11 runs, screamed at the top of his lungs, and then curled into a fetal ball.
2007-05-05 13:47:51
39.   monkeypants
Melky overslides the bag at third. The only question, did he miss second base for th etrifecta?
2007-05-05 13:48:25
40.   RIYank
Hey, so far it's a shutout
2007-05-05 13:48:37
41.   Mattpat11
So what was the end result on Colter Bean?
2007-05-05 13:49:05
42.   JimCobain
Thanks for breaking into the game to show Bonds walk... I got goose bumps...
2007-05-05 13:50:07
43.   monkeypants
Cripes, do we have to cut to every Bonds at bat until the inevitable? Good lord--congratulations to him and his needles, but there really is no drama and little history being made.
2007-05-05 13:50:48
44.   Simone
Worse luck ever with this team. It is crazy.
2007-05-05 13:51:33
45.   JimCobain
Is this the first time all year the trainer went to the mound and came back without the pitcher?
2007-05-05 13:51:41
46.   OldYanksFan
There were so many mistakes in that inning, I can't speak. Christ! This team needs to be DRILLED on basics, and they should do nothing but bunt during batting practice for a week.

Terrible bunt. Terrible baserunning by Melky. Melky is screwing up too much. Time to read him the riot act. I can forgive a low batting average, but not all these mistakes.

2007-05-05 13:52:03
47.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Ridiculas, can we not get someone injured in one freaking week?
2007-05-05 13:54:23
48.   Mattpat11
FOX is awful
2007-05-05 13:58:44
49.   brockdc
48 Understatement of the thread.

Remember when nationally televised baseball games didn't cut to "faces in the crowd" every thirty seconds?

NBC's Game of the Week with Scully and Garagiola, back in the 80's seems so, so long ago.

2007-05-05 13:59:38
50.   Mattpat11
Are the Yankees unaware that Weaver sucks?
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2007-05-05 14:01:48
51.   Mattpat11
ITS JEFF EFFING WEAVER
2007-05-05 14:04:07
52.   brockdc
"Weaver's pitching really well. His best game of the year, by far."

-John Sterling, just seconds ago.

2007-05-05 14:04:28
53.   monkeypants
And why does there have to be some ass clown reporting from the stands? it's not like (s)he is breaking some story straight from the club house, instead of regurgitating some canned BS.
2007-05-05 14:05:47
54.   randym77
Chris Carpenter is out for at least three months with elbow surgery. Maybe the Cards will want Weaver back.
2007-05-05 14:07:46
55.   zanderthegreat
It would be perfect if wanger could keep this up. Just perfect!
2007-05-05 14:09:29
56.   BklynBmr
Sterling just mentioned something about the number of batters Wang has faced and the number of outs he has recorded...
2007-05-05 14:11:13
57.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Wow, incrediable game from Wang so far, now if only we could touch up on Cy Weaver
2007-05-05 14:13:05
58.   Mattpat11
Can someone hit Jeff Weaver? Anyone?
2007-05-05 14:14:49
59.   Mattpat11
I guess the Stink can.
2007-05-05 14:15:05
60.   randym77
Minky. You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him.
2007-05-05 14:15:17
61.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Ironic that Dougie is the only guy hitting Weaver's junk, guess that's the problem, only junk hitter hit junk pitchers?
2007-05-05 14:17:32
62.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Mink going? wtf is with the ridiculas running this game?
2007-05-05 14:18:53
63.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Wow, A-rod have realloy gotten bigger since then havn't he, arrragh Melky's hitting a lot better these days but the numbers havn't showed
2007-05-05 14:19:18
64.   Mattpat11
ITS JEFF WEAVER!
2007-05-05 14:20:17
65.   Mattpat11
Maybe someone has to remind the Yankees that Weaver is the fool that embarrassed them and cost them the 2003 World Series.
2007-05-05 14:25:28
66.   Yu-Hsing Chen
ok seriously Mcgraver, you just said A-rod dived for that ball, the replay prove you wrong
2007-05-05 14:27:49
67.   Yu-Hsing Chen
93 miles with that kind of downward sink is just rigged
2007-05-05 14:32:49
68.   Mattpat11
Now can someone hit the Scream Weaver?
2007-05-05 14:33:14
69.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Abreu have wheels for such a big guy
2007-05-05 14:33:18
70.   JimCobain
Let's give CWM some quick runs to work with.
2007-05-05 14:33:54
71.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Abreu shows Melky what baserunning is
2007-05-05 14:34:16
72.   Mattpat11
Weaver's making his meltdown faces.
2007-05-05 14:35:21
73.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Weavbomb set...
2007-05-05 14:35:55
74.   Clay Caviness
So it's one more out before Wang tears his hammy, right?
2007-05-05 14:37:00
75.   JimCobain
74 Nice gallows humor, I have a nice chuckle when I saw that.
2007-05-05 14:38:25
76.   Mattpat11
That was low.
2007-05-05 14:38:48
77.   Mattpat11
Oooh.
2007-05-05 14:39:11
78.   Mattpat11
He lost control of that right out of his hand.
2007-05-05 14:40:04
79.   RIYank
Igawa for Weaver, straight up?
2007-05-05 14:40:36
80.   Mattpat11
79 No.
2007-05-05 14:40:51
81.   JimCobain
Ok 1, maybe 2 more runs, then some quick outs, we don't want a 20min plus inning for CMW.
2007-05-05 14:41:00
82.   RIYank
Man. I think I've said at least once per game how grateful I am that we have Posada.
2007-05-05 14:42:05
83.   RIYank
80 So, Kei is the lesser of two evils?
2007-05-05 14:42:16
84.   thelarmis
82 i second that!
2007-05-05 14:42:54
85.   Mattpat11
83 I never want to see Weaver in a Yankee uniform again.
2007-05-05 14:43:42
86.   Mattpat11
There's the Stink I'm used to.
2007-05-05 14:43:50
87.   randym77
Why does Robby hit so much better on the road?
2007-05-05 14:44:39
88.   Yu-Hsing Chen
God, Robbie's waving at everything these days, Melky's had some nice hard drives today, god get a hit this time plz
2007-05-05 14:45:07
89.   Mattpat11
87 Maybe he shoots to hard for the short porch at home.
2007-05-05 14:45:52
90.   Simone
Nice Melky.
2007-05-05 14:46:23
91.   Mattpat11
Jetes should be up there looking walk as well. Make him throw strikes.
2007-05-05 14:47:36
92.   JimCobain
I hope Torre is taking note of how Hardgrove is treating Weaver. You need to eat innings and Hardgrove could have easily taken Weaver out once the bases got loaded, but after emptying ut the pen last night Hardgrove is letting the starter work it out.
2007-05-05 14:48:08
93.   Mattpat11
That was ball three
2007-05-05 14:48:47
94.   Mattpat11
Okay, thats somewhat better than a walk. :)
2007-05-05 14:48:48
95.   Bob Timmermann
Weaver also told the Seattle papers that he wasn't going to be listening to the Mariners coaches about his pitching problems. So Hargrove is just going to let him hang himself I imagine.
2007-05-05 14:48:52
96.   Simone
Nice hit, Derek.
2007-05-05 14:49:50
97.   JimCobain
95 Didn't hear about that. I guess that would explain when he kept him in there.

This inning is a long one... I hope it doesn't affect CMW too much.

2007-05-05 14:51:01
98.   Clay Caviness
Good news is we're getting to Weaver.

Bad news is it's taking a while ...

Also, I sure wish Jeter had done that in the 9th last night...

2007-05-05 14:51:27
99.   randym77
95 Good grief. Why would he do that? That WS ring go to his head?
2007-05-05 14:51:52
100.   RIYank
95 Oh, good point. Yeah, I heard Weaver say that. And McCarver said he's an inning-eater.
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2007-05-05 14:52:04
101.   Bob Timmermann
So nine batters in one inning is Weaver's limit I guess.
2007-05-05 14:52:19
102.   Simone
92 And that strategy is sure working out well for Seattle.
2007-05-05 14:52:29
103.   RIYank
99 Uh, because he's Jeff Weaver?
2007-05-05 14:53:36
104.   RIYank
Okay, BRING ON THE WANGER.
2007-05-05 14:54:39
105.   mehmattski
Just checkin in (been watching since the second inning).

I'm glad they finally torched Weaver. I thought it was October for a second there. But this brings up what I always hated about Jeff Weaver- he gets pissed when something doesn't go his way (like A-Rod's bleeder up the middle) and then gets wild and rarely recovers (see: 4 pitch walk to Giambi, fastball at Matsui's leg, etc).

I hope 9 more worms get killed today. In order.

2007-05-05 14:55:35
106.   randym77
103 Somehow, the Pitcher Whisperer got him to fix his mechanics.
2007-05-05 14:56:15
107.   Mattpat11
That was scary.
2007-05-05 14:56:29
108.   mehmattski
Whew. Matsui-san!
2007-05-05 14:58:15
109.   RIYank
Phew, he got past the Hughes Disaster out.
2007-05-05 14:59:20
110.   Mattpat11
He's not throwing first pitch strikes this inning. I don't know what that means one way or another.
2007-05-05 14:59:48
111.   Yu-Hsing Chen
shit,
2007-05-05 15:01:14
112.   Mattpat11
But he recovered.
2007-05-05 15:01:17
113.   RIYank
Gulp.
2007-05-05 15:01:23
114.   Yu-Hsing Chen
WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-05-05 15:01:28
115.   mehmattski
BOOM!
2007-05-05 15:01:36
116.   JimCobain
Whoop!
2007-05-05 15:01:36
117.   Simone
What an amazing strikeout there! Wang has had quite a few fly balls today to along with ground balls. Yet he is cruising along.
2007-05-05 15:01:43
118.   thelarmis
YES!
2007-05-05 15:02:02
119.   randym77
I think the pressure is starting to get to him.

It's getting to me. o_O

2007-05-05 15:02:41
120.   RIYank
So, if we had even one pitcher yesterday who was merely MUCH MUCH WORSE than Wang, we would have won that game. Sadly, all were MUCH MUCH MUCH WORSE, and a couple were worse than that.
2007-05-05 15:03:51
121.   RIYank
113 - 116 Welcome to Bronx Weird Monosyllables!

117 Simone, my impression is that he has the usual number of grounders, only a handful of flies. No?

2007-05-05 15:06:14
122.   RIYank
Ouch.

Hey, I hear there's some other important sporting event about to occur...

2007-05-05 15:06:33
123.   yankz
Just got here, and holy shit!

Except GameDay is stuck. What's going on?

2007-05-05 15:06:48
124.   mehmattski
121 I count 4 fly outs, one line out, 4 strikeouts, 12 groundouts.
2007-05-05 15:06:50
125.   rbs10025
122 Weren't the guys on Fox just complaining about NASCAR being rained out?
2007-05-05 15:07:04
126.   Clay Caviness
Kentucky Derby going off in a few minutes, too. TOO MUCH GOING ON.

I'm watching all of Wang's pitches, though.

2007-05-05 15:08:36
127.   randym77
Gameday might not be stuck. There was a delay because A-Rod got HBP.

Giambi singles, two on, no outs.

Phelps in to pinch-run for Giambi.

2007-05-05 15:08:37
128.   RIYank
Yeah, I meant the Derby, of course.

123 THere was a brief delay while Monahan came out and looked at Alex's elbow. HBP. Now Giambi mashes a hit.

2007-05-05 15:09:15
129.   Mattpat11
Did McCarver ever catch a no hitter? Did Gibson throw one?
2007-05-05 15:09:42
130.   Mattpat11
And I use that word just talking about McCarvers career
2007-05-05 15:09:51
131.   yankz
Only 91 pitches for Wang, sweet.
2007-05-05 15:09:56
132.   monkeypants
Iy probably really doesn't matter, but running for Giambi with...Phelps?
2007-05-05 15:10:16
133.   JimCobain
I like the offense but let's make this quick guys...
2007-05-05 15:12:15
134.   RIYank
129 Gibson did have a no-no, August 14, 1971. I guess McC must have been catching.
2007-05-05 15:12:17
135.   yankz
Thank you to all.
2007-05-05 15:12:37
136.   Mattpat11
Can Sheppard go into the HOF in some capacity?
2007-05-05 15:12:37
137.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Why post a picture of Bob Sheppard in black and white as if he's ....
2007-05-05 15:14:14
138.   monkeypants
136 I think that there is (still) a special contributor section for the HOF, but they may have changed that in the last few years. If coaches and, especially, announcers can get in...
2007-05-05 15:14:43
139.   RIYank
Derby: they're off!
2007-05-05 15:14:58
140.   Mattpat11
134 I just looked it up. Ted Simmons caught that game
2007-05-05 15:15:33
141.   yankz
What a terrible day for me not to be able to get mlb.tv to work
2007-05-05 15:16:21
142.   yankz
It's actually 11 GO, 6 FO for Wang.
2007-05-05 15:16:26
143.   Mattpat11
137 He's really not looking great these days. Maybe they wanted to use a picture of him that made him look better
2007-05-05 15:17:42
144.   RIYank
Street Sense in an amazing finish, coming from six or seven lengths back and earlier from 19th in the field....
2007-05-05 15:17:42
145.   Mattpat11
They almost missed the first pitch
2007-05-05 15:18:00
146.   Ramone
I believe posada has a chance to tie a record today.
2007-05-05 15:18:41
147.   Mattpat11
Oh Christ. Here we go.
2007-05-05 15:18:49
148.   yankz
Yeah Wang!!!
2007-05-05 15:19:12
149.   yankz
I'm shaking and it's only the 8th.
2007-05-05 15:19:23
150.   Mattpat11
146 This would be two for him.
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2007-05-05 15:19:37
151.   Ramone
I belive this is also the first time all season that I am happy to see scrabble at 1b.
2007-05-05 15:19:51
152.   RIYank
Ah, well. Too bad, Wanger. Sorry, bud.
2007-05-05 15:19:53
153.   Mattpat11
Damnit to hell.
2007-05-05 15:19:57
154.   Simone
It was fun while it lasted.
2007-05-05 15:20:15
155.   yankz
Fuck. Ah well.
2007-05-05 15:20:23
156.   Yu-Hsing Chen
bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck you Ben.

arrragh. still great game though

2007-05-05 15:20:31
157.   randym77
Oh, crap. Not the kind of hit Wanger usually gives up.

I really think the pressure was getting to him. He just didn't look the same.

2007-05-05 15:20:31
158.   seamus
bummer. what a game though.
2007-05-05 15:21:00
159.   RIYank
Can't complain about losing the no-no on a cheap hit, anyway.

Hm, he must be tiring.

2007-05-05 15:21:33
160.   mehmattski
K, time for some EDSP.
2007-05-05 15:22:18
161.   seamus
It really is a bummer (not to state the obvious) that Hughes got hurt. While Hughes may be better off for it in a sense, it would have been fun to see him and Wang in this rotation together.
2007-05-05 15:22:30
162.   yankz
Guess his arm strength isn't back?

You know, the big 3 have looked pretty darn good their last starts. Throw in The Chosen One, and there's no reason to give up yet.

2007-05-05 15:23:19
163.   RIYank
161 Seamus, we'll get to see them in the same rotation for fifteen years!
2007-05-05 15:23:35
164.   monkeypants
OK, Wang at 98 pitches, 2 hits, 6 run lead. Couldn't he be allowed to muscle through this inning? Or, will we see four pitchers?
2007-05-05 15:23:36
165.   seamus
162 to be fair, they have looked good all year - when they have pitched. Moose had that one bad game. Pettite was #2 in AL ERA until that one bad outing of his. Wang has had bad breaks mostly. Injuries have killed them.
2007-05-05 15:24:07
166.   seamus
163 oh, i know. I just meant it would be fun to watch them now. :)
2007-05-05 15:25:01
167.   monkeypants
136 Hmmm, perhaps not. From the HOF webpage:

6. Eligible Candidates — Eligible candidates must be selected from:

(A) Major League players who competed in any portion of at least ten (10) championship seasons and who have been retired as players for at least twenty-one (21) years. In addition, players whose service in the Negro Baseball Leagues prior to 1946 and the Major Leagues thereafter total at least ten years or portions thereof are defined as eligible candidates.

(B) Baseball Executives and/or Managers and/or Umpires who have been retired from organized Baseball as Baseball Executives and/or Managers and/or Umpires for at least five (5) years prior to the election. If the candidate is 65 years old at the time of retirement, the waiting period is reduced to six (6) months. If the candidate reaches the age of 65 during the five-year waiting period the candidate becomes eligible six months after the candidate's 65th birthday.

(C) Those whose careers entailed involvement as both players and managers/executives/umpires will be considered for their overall contribution to the game of Baseball; however, the specific category in which such individuals shall be considered will be determined by the role in which they were most prominent. In those instances when a candidate is prominent as both a player and as a manager, executive or umpire, the BBWAA Screening Committee shall determine that individual's candidacy as either a player (Players Ballot), or as a manager, executive or umpire (Composite Ballot). Candidates may only appear on one ballot per election. Those designated as players must fulfill the requirements of 6 (A).

(D) Any person designated by the Office of the Commissioner of Major League Baseball as ineligible shall not be an eligible candidate.

2007-05-05 15:25:17
168.   RIYank
166 Sure would.
But the next fifteen years... now that's a nice thought.
2007-05-05 15:25:32
169.   mehmattski
Mussina's probably not impressed. 22 in a row??? Pah, he says. He's gotten 26 in a row... twice...
2007-05-05 15:26:02
170.   seamus
168 i'll see your nice thought and raise you a Hell Yeah!
2007-05-05 15:27:39
171.   seamus
Wang going 8 innings is so monumentally important. With Myers going 4 last night right after we broke our 5 reliever streak, you gotta feel something good comin' on.
2007-05-05 15:28:51
172.   yankz
RLYW is hilarious:

"It usually takes two games for the Yankee starters to go eight."

2007-05-05 15:29:32
173.   RIYank
I know, it's HUGE.
It's huge as a good sign, as a good thing for the long run, and as something we needed today.
2007-05-05 15:29:41
174.   Simone
Thank you, Wang, for saving up from the bullpen.
2007-05-05 15:30:57
175.   yankz
Guys, Wang is 27 and has had arm injuries. 15 years isn't going to happen.
2007-05-05 15:30:57
176.   seamus
why is pavano in the dugout? Shouldn't he be seeing dr andrews?
2007-05-05 15:31:19
177.   mehmattski
Anyone else feel a swelling sense of unrivaled hatred when they put Carla on the screen?
2007-05-05 15:31:24
178.   Yu-Hsing Chen
115 pitches in a fullgame isn't really overwork, i would trott out Wang in the 9th until at least there's some sign of trouble.
2007-05-05 15:31:40
179.   yankz
I've always loved Wang because he came out of nowhere. Phenom will be awesome to watch, but the surprise feels really good too.
2007-05-05 15:32:18
180.   yankz
Put in Britton or whoever to mop up. No reason to throw a probably still-recovering Wang out there.
2007-05-05 15:32:19
181.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Yeah, I would want to kill Pussvano.
2007-05-05 15:33:07
182.   JimCobain
180 Agreed, no need for him to go out there at this point. Any word on who replaced Bean on the roster?
2007-05-05 15:33:27
183.   Mattpat11
177 Or when they mention his name.
2007-05-05 15:33:29
184.   RIYank
177 Yes, though I thought that was vomit swelling.
2007-05-05 15:34:12
185.   yankz
Isn't "glog" onomatopoeia for that sound you make when choking back vomit?
2007-05-05 15:34:16
186.   JimCobain
Or Torre can put Pavano in there for the 9th, let him get a nice "ovation" from the crowd.
2007-05-05 15:34:24
187.   RIYank
182 Not DeSalvo?
2007-05-05 15:34:26
188.   yankz
LOL Cairo batting for A-God
2007-05-05 15:35:48
189.   monkeypants
Hey, who's this Phelps guy? Did he get called up when Pavano got hurt?
2007-05-05 15:35:58
190.   yankz
You know, Weaver's ERA actually went down 3 points.
2007-05-05 15:35:59
191.   mehmattski
McIdiot goes on his contractually binding tirade against the mound height. It's like Dick Vitale and the Possession Arrow in college basketball.

I hope A-Rod's ok...

2007-05-05 15:36:55
192.   yankz
191 Don't go all Grey's Anatomy on us.
2007-05-05 15:37:24
193.   RIYank
190 That's an awesome fact. You win the Neat Fact of the Day along.
2007-05-05 15:37:56
194.   JimCobain
This is from Yankees.com:

Phil Hughes spent an hour of his Saturday morning in an MRI tube, and when his chance to see the image of his strained left hamstring came around, Hughes instead opted for the door.

"I was just ready to get out of there," Hughes said. "I was just sore and stiff from laying down for an hour."

The 20-year-old right-hander worked out with Yankees team physician Dr. Stuart Hershon on Friday on a battery of flexibility exercises, and according to Cashman, Hughes tested very well.

"Maybe it's not as bad as we first expected," Cashman said.

The Yankees still maintain their initial projection of four to six weeks on the shelf for Hughes, who suffered the injury while working in the seventh inning of a no-hitter on Tuesday at Texas.

2007-05-05 15:38:00
195.   Mattpat11
191 No reason for him to be in the game at this point. Six runs (at least) going into the top of the ninth. He would have been taken out anyway under normal circumstances.
2007-05-05 15:38:23
196.   RIYank
Uh, along = award 193.
2007-05-05 15:38:37
197.   mehmattski
Phelps in for Giambi???? Then who is the emergency first baseman if Minky goes down??? Such madness!!!!
2007-05-05 15:38:38
198.   JimCobain
187 Nope, Rasner gets activated tomorrow, then immediately after the game he gets sent down and Desalvo gets activated.
2007-05-05 15:39:23
199.   seamus
194 i imagine they'll be more careful than usual with hamstring injuries. Why not wait longer than usual? I hope it is less significant than previously thought.
2007-05-05 15:39:34
200.   yankz
196 Why thank you.
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2007-05-05 15:39:38
201.   randym77
I think Torre would have pulled A-Rod no matter what, once the no-hitter was gone. Time to put the scrubs in, once you don't need the GG defense any more.
2007-05-05 15:39:40
202.   RIYank
194 Wow, nice! Shave a couple of weeks off the recovery time, maybe?
2007-05-05 15:40:07
203.   OldYanksFan
191 FWIW, I agree with McC. Time to raise the mound back to where it was for 60 years.
2007-05-05 15:40:13
204.   yankz
197 Johnny Damon
2007-05-05 15:40:39
205.   seamus
Any news on Damon?
2007-05-05 15:40:47
206.   yankz
Awesome story about Zilla over at LoHud
2007-05-05 15:41:24
207.   yankz
Yeah, I'd rather trot out DeSalvo for a few starts than rush The One back.
2007-05-05 15:41:47
208.   yankz
Bruney, in a 7 run game? How exclusive is the Circle of Trust exactly?
2007-05-05 15:43:13
209.   monkeypants
There was a time, not that long ago, when Wang would have gone out for the ninth. Or, you would throw a slop pitcher.
2007-05-05 15:44:14
210.   mehmattski
208 Bean, Henn, and Myers all pitched yesterday (and the former two may never pitched for the Yanks ever again)... Farns and Mo aren't gonna pitch today. That leaves Bruney and EDSP...
2007-05-05 15:44:27
211.   RIYank
Who else is available? Didn't all our garbage guys pitch yesterday?
2007-05-05 15:44:55
212.   yankz
The article Alex linked to is awesome. I bet Taiwan was going freaking nuts today.
2007-05-05 15:45:08
213.   RIYank
210 There ya go, that's what I was asking in 211.
2007-05-05 15:45:30
214.   yankz
208 That's true, didn't think of that. My B.
2007-05-05 15:45:55
215.   yankz
Er, sorry Cliff. That article Cliff linked to is awesome.
2007-05-05 15:46:23
216.   mikeplugh
203 Why so you get a bunch of 2-1 ballgames? Fans aren't coming in to break attendance records because they love soccer scores.
2007-05-05 15:47:04
217.   yankz
Yahoo! Great win.
2007-05-05 15:48:58
218.   monkeypants
Well, if Vizcaino or EDSP can pitch every day, I would trot Beam out there again to throw 80 mph frisbees. Then again, I didn't pay too much attention to his pitch count yesterday--if it was 30 or 40 pitches, I guess you shouldn't run him out there again.

Anyway, this just reinforces the notion that Wang should have been sent out for the 9th--on a short leash, so he does't throw 130 pitches.

2007-05-05 15:51:07
219.   mehmattski
218 You mean Bean. But Bruney had pitched Thursday, and has thrown all of 20 pitches in the last week. I have no problem with Bruney in the ninth... Farns, Proctor, and Mo all haven't been used in a couple days, they're all good to go tomorrow.
2007-05-05 15:51:11
220.   RIYank
Suzyn interviewing C-M W. His English is excellent, though heavily accented.
He was not thinking about the perfecto. He knew how important a long start was today. He's pretty cute.
2007-05-05 15:51:57
221.   Mattpat11
218 if they sent Bean out there they'd have to warm up Mo.

I don't think he's on the team anyway

2007-05-05 16:00:36
222.   monkeypants
Yeah, I meant Bean. As for 221, not really--you can always go to Bruney of if Bean (or Beam :) ) can't get the first couple or few batters. A seven run lead is pretty safe. I understand that Bruney has not been used much lately, but these long starts are so few and far between that the Yankees need to maximize the few chances to rest the real BP.

Anyway, I am picking at nits and swatting at gnats. Can't complain too much about tonight!

2007-05-05 16:59:55
223.   OldYanksFan
203 The mound was lowered (before the DH?) because the pitchers were dominating. One year, Yaz won the BA title with a .301 average, the only guy to bat over .300 on MLB.

Things are different now. Many offensive all-time records are being broken or approximated, while there are very few true aces in the game. Raising the mound now won't return us to 2-1 games, but there may be fewer 15-11 games.

It was lowered for a very specific reason. That reason doesn't even come close to applying now. Smaller parks, the dh, better bats, players working out, body armour and other 'enhancements' primarily favor the batter.

Plus if it DOES lower the number of pitching injuries, that will make the game better.

2007-05-05 17:00:39
224.   OldYanksFan
Oops.. that should be 216... Mike
2007-05-05 22:08:04
225.   markp
The mound was raised in the late 50s and early 60s, then lowered again in the early 70s. The strike zone was expanded at the same time. The result was boring baseball.
TV/radio ad revenues went down dramatically in the late 60s because nobody wants to watch hitters make that many outs. When teams score just over three runs a game there's no excitement.
2007-05-06 00:17:25
226.   nawlins yankee
via Peter Gammons on ESPN Insider: "With Tim Lincecum coming up and Jonathan Sanchez in the shadows, the Giants are discussing shopping a starting pitcher to get a young position player. They would like Melky Cabrera, but it is doubtful the Yankees would consider Cabrera for Noah Lowry."

I don't see why the Yanks wouldn't consider this trade if the Giants offered it to them.

2007-05-06 02:14:11
227.   Vandelay Industries
223

Great post. I couldn't agree more.

226

It hurts my brain to think about it. We shouldn't even be in a position to be thinking about trading Melky. But alas, we have found ourselves here. I still say no to that trade. I have a feeling about Melky. Remember, he's only what, 22? Either way, I had this same feeling about Adrian Beltre. I live in LA now and the fans and my friends would always give me grief about it as the best defensive third baseman in the game (You have to give it up to his defense, Chavez should never win a Gold Glove again if Beltre is healthy), would finish up another season batting .250. Then, he had a monster season and carried them to the playoffs. He hasn't matched that in Seattle but he's a third baseman I would certainly want on my team.

I don't want to give up on Melky just yet. Once he gets some confidence I think he'll be ok.

2007-05-06 02:15:14
228.   Vandelay Industries
226

Not to mention, I am always iffy on NL pitchers like Lowry. Most notably because he pitches in such a poor division.

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