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A Fine Day For It
2006-09-23 11:41
by Alex Belth

Chien-Ming Wang won his 18th game of the season as the Yanks beat the Rays, 4-1 on Friday night. Gary Sheffield didn't get a hit but made a couple of nice picks at first. Mariano Rivera wasn't particularly sharp in his return but he did manage to strike out the side in the ninth.

Cliff is getting married today and will be honeymooning in Italy for several weeks (he won't return until after the ALDS). Go Cliff and Becky and go Yanks!

Comments (253)
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2006-09-23 11:49:57
1.   Bob Timmermann
Cliff obviously had confidence that the Yankees would have clinched by now.

But when are the Belth nuptials? And where will the romantic honeymoon be? Antwerp?

2006-09-23 12:06:18
2.   Sliced Bread
Congratulations, Cliff & Becky! Great cherce of honeymoon. My wife and I went to Roma, Capri, and Positano on ours. Best vacation we ever had.

Buono fortuna, and have a great luna di miele!

Looking forward to your Yankees 2006 ALCS posts.

2006-09-23 12:15:06
3.   Shaun P
All the best, Cliff and Becky - and safe travels.
2006-09-23 13:02:11
4.   Dimelo
When is the best time of year to get married?

January - football playoffs are starting, Giants are making a run to the Super Bowl, Knicks are starting to heat up (wishful thinking, I know), hot stove, hmm...maybe not this month.

February - NCAA conference championships are starting, Super Bowl has now been moved to this month and Jints are playing the Colts, Knicks are about to show their superiority over the Atlantic division, pitchers and catchers report, hmmm...maybe not this month.

March - Jints won the Super Bowl last month, spring training, prepping for fantasy baseball draft, March Madness, hmmm...maybe not this month either.

April - Start of the baseball season, NCAA championship game, pro football draft, Knicks are locking up the division and the best record in East. Not this month either...

May - Knicks are in full swing, they are playing crisp basketball and look poised to win a championship, Yankees are looking good and there's a 6 game series against Boston. Not this month either.

June - Knicks are playing the Lakers in the championship, nuff said...not a good month to think about a wedding.

July - Knicks have already won it all, but the Yanks have a series against the Mets, Angels, A's and Red Sox before the trading deadline. I don't know if I can be preoccupied with wedding plans....so not a good month either.

August - The Yanks are really taking off, Eli is looking good for the Jints. Not a good month either.

September - The Yanks are battling for the AL East crown against the Blue Jays and Red Sox and there are 6 games remaining against each team. The Giants open up against Philly, Dallas and the Patriots...the wedding will just have to wait.

October - The Yanks are in the Serious. Nuff said....no wedding plans this month.

November - Yanks won the serious. Giants play the Cowboys and Skins at home and if they win those two then they win the NFC East. The Knicks are back on the tube and ready to defend their NBA Championship. My mom won't let me disappear away from the family for Thanksgiving, so the wedding will just have to wait.

December - The Giants lost last month against the Cowboys, they are in a two way tie for the NFC East and they have four tough games in December. The Knicks were 12 - 4 in November and we don't want to disrupt the karma, so wedding plans will just have to wait.....

....wait a second I have no more month's left. I guess I ain't getting married.

Nevertheless, good luck to you Cliff and I wish you all the happiness in the world. How ever did he find time to get married? And still keep us abreast of each upcoming Yankee opponent. Sorry Alex, Cliff is the MVP this year.... :-). Just kidding...you both have done wonderful work.

2006-09-23 13:27:41
5.   mehmattski
4HAHAHAHA The Knicks in the playoffs... hahahahaahaha... no seriously, you told a good one there. Oh man, you really had me going until that. I guess you won't get married until 2050 or so, when Isaiah Thomas is long dead. Next, you'll tell me that you can't miss those MLS games...

May or June it is...

2006-09-23 13:27:52
6.   C2Coke
4 ROFL!

Cliff and Becky, congrats!
Enjoy Italy and your life together!

2006-09-23 13:32:12
7.   Dimelo
5 I know that's crazy for me to ever think the Knicks would ever become respectable. I can still wish, right?!?!?!?

You know, I just remembered that Thomas is their coach this year. Anyhow, those are my excuses and I'm sticking with the script or else I'm afraid as to what I might miss.

2006-09-23 14:07:10
8.   singledd
Off the Wall:
"(Nick) Johnson and Kearns slid for the ball, which landed between them, and appeared to bang knees and heads. Johnson immediately rolled onto his stomach, took off his hat and was face-down on the outfield grass.

He eventually was driven off the field with what appeared to be a leg injury."

Poor Nick. Injuries just seem to find him.

2006-09-23 14:07:38
9.   wsporter
Anyone catch the Mets game today? Nick Johnson looked like he really messed up his right knee/leg in a collision with Austin Kearns chasing a tough pop in shallow right.

It looked horrible. Does anyone have word or news on his condition? I always liked Nick and thought he was going to be our guy for a long time. Hope he can get over this one.

2006-09-23 14:48:46
10.   randym77
Melky Cabrera LF
Derek Jeter SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Gary Sheffield 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Hideki Matsui DH
Jorge Posada C
Bernie Williams CF

Randy Johnson P

2006-09-23 14:56:11
11.   randym77
9 Yikes, that's terrible. I was watching college football, not baseball, but I just read the story at MLB.com. Jeez, that sucks.

I've always liked Nick, too. Kinda like "Once an Ag, always an Ag" at Texas A&M; once a Yankee, always a Yankee, at least in my mind. I even keep an eye on the ones who weren't very good, like Tony Womack.

2006-09-23 14:59:23
12.   yankz
11 "weren't very good"

The highest praise he's received since the '01 World Series.

2006-09-23 15:04:00
13.   kylepetterson
12 11 I'm just wondering who's being referred to as being "like Tony Womack"
2006-09-23 15:10:43
14.   randym77
13 Ummm...Matt Lawton?
2006-09-23 15:12:08
15.   kylepetterson
14 ha ha...I forgot about him. Memories of T-ball are coming back also...
2006-09-23 15:19:36
16.   kylepetterson
Remember Darrell May (0-1 16.71 ERA) and Tim Redding (0-1 54.00 ERA)? They were both easy to forget...
2006-09-23 15:24:06
17.   randym77
Speaking of forgotten players...Joe Torre appears to have forgotten about Kevin Thompson. I really wish he'd try Thompson or Guiel in CF instead of Bernie.
2006-09-23 15:26:01
18.   kylepetterson
17 Won't happen. For the same reason that RJ is going to start game 1 in the playoffs.

Experience

2006-09-23 15:34:35
19.   Jeteupthemiddle
I doubt very much that Randy Johnson is the game 1 starter in the playoffs.

He may be game 2 because they want Mussina in a possible elimination Game 3, but Johnson will not be the Game 1 starter.

2006-09-23 15:38:22
20.   randym77
18 The media was reporting yesterday that Wang will start game 1. Wouldn't surprise me if RJ did, though. :-/

I can see Bernie as the main backup CFer. But what about a LIDR for him? Joe trusted Bubba, but doesn't seem to trust anyone else. Given how fragile Damon is (prone to unexpected weird injuries, just before or during a game), it's something that should be addressed. Now is the time to see if Guiel or Thompson can handle it.

2006-09-23 15:42:46
21.   kylepetterson
Don't get me wrong, if you'll notice, I don't think I've posted a single negative thing about Torre, I think he is a fantastic skipper, one of the main reasons that this team wins year after year, but he seems, big portions of the time, to value experience over skill. I do like to use the comma.
2006-09-23 15:53:25
22.   randym77
YES just reminded me...Bernie hits really, really well in the Trop. Joe thinks he just sees the ball better indoors (while Jeter doesn't).
2006-09-23 15:55:06
23.   Jeteupthemiddle
I agree that quite often Torre would prefer to go with experience; however, that isn't always the case...and in the post season, all bets are off.

Last year he did start Crosby in centerfield because he needed defense (though that backfired...if Bernie were in center, no one is anywhere near Sheff to collide with him).

He has benched players such as Tino in post season games when he knows someone else is performing better.

And, all season long he has been praising the efforts of Wang. I would be absolutely shocked if Johnson is the Game 1 starter. I would prefer him to be the Game 3 starter, but wouldn't be surprised to see him start Game 2. (Though, I think having him start Game 2 is a defensive move, instead of an offensive move...it says he trusts Mussina over Johnson in an elimination game...which isn't unfounded, but is still defensive as if he is almost EXPECTING an elimination game).

2006-09-23 16:19:59
24.   Adam B
Congratulations Cliff. I hope you have a wonderful time in Italy as well.
2006-09-23 16:21:34
25.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Right now, the rotation seems set for Wang to start game 1.

However, given Wang's home/road splits, I think it'd make sense, if we somehow don't get home field in the first rd, to think about starting Rj in game 1, since his record is significantly better on the road this year, and his era is a notch better as well. With Moose in Game 2, where he could come up with a big hold if we lose game 1, and Wang ready to go in game 3 at the Stadium.

2006-09-23 16:31:50
26.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
To clarify, when I say rj's record on the road is significantly better, I mean compared to HIS home record. Even tho the Wanger's road era is a run and 1/2 worse than at home, it's still better than rj's road era, and his 8-3 road record ain't too bad.
2006-09-23 16:33:53
27.   randym77
23 He started Crosby in CF, but only after futzing around most of the season with Lawton, Womack, Sierra, etc.

And he pinch-hit Sierra for Bubba in that last game. Even though Bubba was 2 for 3 with an RBI and a stolen base that night. And Sierra was batting something like .150 for the past month, while Bubba was batting .320.

2006-09-23 16:35:43
28.   JeremyM
If the Yanks get Minnesota (it looks probable), then how has Johnson pitched in the dome? I'm thinking it would be better to line him up there since the weather will be controlled and we don't have to worry about him going Achy Breaky Back on us again.
2006-09-23 16:36:43
29.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Robbie pulls witin 2 of Mauer,who's sitting tonight.
2006-09-23 16:43:10
30.   randym77
28 Good point. I'm sure Joe will take that sort of thing into consideration.
2006-09-23 16:47:31
31.   JeremyM
Detroit up 10-0 in the 1st and they still have the bases loaded. Ouch.
2006-09-23 16:48:39
32.   mehmattski
28 Since I consider myself the designated Banter SplitMan: RJ has only pitched 17 innings against Minnesota (at least as a Yankee), all of them last year, all of them at Yankee Stadium. He's allowed just one earned run on seven hits. Not exactly a trend I'd rest my chances on.

Mussina, meanwhile, has pitched 24.2 innings in the Metrodome over the last four seasons (including this one), giving up 15 earned runs, compared to 38 innings and 18 earned runs overall versus the Twins.

If you want to consider that a trend, I'd start Mussina in game 1 at YS, and avoid Wang on the turf for game 2. That leaves RJ in Minnesota for Game 3, but if its 2-0 Twins, the Yanks have worse problems than who starts the game...

2006-09-23 16:48:59
33.   randym77
31 What???? Are you serious?
2006-09-23 16:57:41
34.   mehmattski
!@$#@( Rocco Baldelli
2006-09-23 16:59:04
35.   randym77
Baldelli has no respect for Jorgie's arm. And pays the price...
2006-09-23 17:03:39
36.   yankz
This (batting) race isn't over yet...
2006-09-23 17:05:21
37.   singledd
Joe benched both Paulie and Giambi in the PS. He stretches it a bit, but in the PS he manages differently... to win now.
2006-09-23 17:05:53
38.   singledd
Good for Jetes. He really hasn't been hitting the ball hard lately.
2006-09-23 17:06:51
39.   yankz
Howell's ERA has already gone down .51.
2006-09-23 17:07:26
40.   yankz
Was Arod's last hit pre-Verducci?
2006-09-23 17:11:05
41.   mikeplugh
Mauer at .344
Cano at .342
Jeter at .339

But none of that matters as Mr. Creaky Back has handed TB a 3-0 lead.

2006-09-23 17:13:18
42.   JeremyM
Good to see the Unit rounding into form for October.
2006-09-23 17:13:30
43.   Stormer Sports
I finally get back from vacation and I see Johnson hasn't changed at all.
2006-09-23 17:14:20
44.   Stormer Sports
42

He's not in post season form yet, he's only given up 3 runs man, not 6, yet!

2006-09-23 17:15:40
45.   randym77
Well, this is pretty much how the Unit's pitched all year. He's been really lucky with the run support.
2006-09-23 17:16:29
46.   Simone
Randy Johnson in the post season is terrifying. I really hope that he is pitching the 2nd game.
2006-09-23 17:17:18
47.   singledd
Does anyone have a HRs allowed number on RJ. He must be close to the leader.
2006-09-23 17:18:12
48.   randym77
47 The leader...you mean Josh Beckett? ;-)
2006-09-23 17:20:58
49.   JeremyM
47 Oh Beckett has got him beat. 34 to 27 as of tonight. So it is a heck of a lot closer than I like.
2006-09-23 17:20:59
50.   singledd
Is MLB TV gonna play the same 'music' every game throughout the entire season? I'd rather watch commercials.
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2006-09-23 17:21:46
51.   singledd
At 27, is he in the top 10%? Whats the league average?
2006-09-23 17:21:49
52.   randym77
According the MLB.com, Johnson's not even close to the leader. He's given up 26, way down the list.

Buerhle, Silva, and Beckett are at the top. 36, 36, 34 respectively.

2006-09-23 17:28:48
53.   randym77
I can't believe Sheff missed that.
2006-09-23 17:30:29
54.   mehmattski
52 Man, I hope the Yankees avoid the Twins and that unbeatable pitching staff. It's a wonder anyone has scored any runs against the Twins this year. Santana is going to pitch 3 perfect games and strike out 81 batters in the playoffs. What's that, you say? The Twins have to pitch someone else in games 2 and 3? Brad Radke and Carlos Silva. Oh, okay then...

my sarcasm is dripping like Niagra Falls tonight...

2006-09-23 17:33:49
55.   Bob Timmermann
For the record, Boston was officially eliminated from the playoffs today.
2006-09-23 17:33:51
56.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Yeah, but it's a little different if Liriano is pitching, and winning, game 2, which is what most folks were afraid of.

So, yeah, being down 2-0 in a 3 game series is pretty tough, even if Silva and Radke are the next 2 pitchers. Luckily we won't have to deal with that scenario this season.

2006-09-23 17:37:48
57.   Simone
55 Heh. The only thing that would make Boston's elimination more fun is the Blue Jays taking 2nd place in the division.
2006-09-23 17:38:57
58.   JeremyM
The Angels are almost gone too. I consider them #2 on the enemies list right now:)
2006-09-23 17:40:20
59.   mehmattski
I seriously doubt that Liriano will pitch in the Division Series. There may be a chance that he would pitch should the Twins advance, but I believe the Twins' officials who are saying they care more about his 200 innings next year than his 7 or 8 in a ALDS this year. If Wang (or Hughes) had this kind of injury, would you want him to pitch in the playoffs at all costs, even if it endangered his career? I wouldn't.

Echoing Jim Kaat, it's the Twins and Tigers who have more of a right to worry about who won't have to face the Yankees, rather than vice versa. Regardless of who the opponent is, if the Yankees don't perform to an elite level on offense, defense, and pitching... they're not going to win any playoff series. And if we are to believe that this team can with the whole thing, then we should believe that they are capable of taking out any postseason opponent... and they are capable of that.

Santana's a great pitcher, but he is not the whole team. The Twins' weak hitting lineup will decide more than one starting pitcher.

2006-09-23 17:40:25
60.   randym77
Amazing how dominating the A's have been, for a team that doesn't hit and doesn't get on base.
2006-09-23 17:43:16
61.   yankz
This game is making me really unconfident...2 hit by JP Freaking Howell through 5+?! The only two to get hits are batting close to .340! And RJ sh1ts the bed against a sh1tty team. Can't wait for him to pitch against Detroit.
2006-09-23 17:43:59
62.   yankz
61 OK, it's just one game, I'm overreacting...right?
2006-09-23 17:45:42
63.   JeremyM
62 Probably but I feel ya! But on the bright side, the Unit always sucks against Tampa, and the team can't see right to hit because they still have the burn of champagne in their eyes. That's why it's good to clinch early, it takes a bit to work it out.
2006-09-23 17:46:36
64.   Ken Arneson
60 Since the All-Star break, the A's have hit for AVG and OBP nearly as well as the Yankees have. Their slugging has been a little bit lower. Check out my post on Catfish Stew:

catfishstew.baseballtoaster.com/archives/515295.html

2006-09-23 17:46:45
65.   randym77
62 Yes. The Yanks aren't exactly fired up for these games. They'll take it a whole different level when it counts.
2006-09-23 17:48:55
66.   mehmattski
61 Perhaps he will pitch like this game:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=260529106

or perhaps this game:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=260831110

where he took a no hitter into the seventh...

2006-09-23 17:48:58
67.   randym77
Close but no cigar for Sheff. He's getting there, though.
2006-09-23 17:52:20
68.   rbj
Just wanted to chime in to congratulate Cliff on his autumnal nuptials.
4 hours of Aikido, plus a nice wine tasting afterwards, and I do not think I am long for this day.
I will say this: Unit would fair better in Comerica than in that rinky dink dome the Twins play in.
2006-09-23 17:52:55
69.   mikeplugh
Sheff won't be considered "back" until he hits 2 or 3 foul home runs into the upper deck. That's when he's going good, and he looks about 3 weeks away from that kind of swing.

I think you'll actually see him start to whip the ball around in about a week, for the record.

2006-09-23 17:54:23
70.   randym77
Yikes. Nick Johnson's leg is broken.
2006-09-23 17:54:27
71.   JeremyM
Is Sheff hurt? Shouldn't he stay out there to learn the position at this point?
2006-09-23 17:56:08
72.   Simone
RJ trying to take make up ground on Beckett.
2006-09-23 17:56:13
73.   mehmattski
Like last night, I must once again resist a joke involving Randy and Mr. Upton....
2006-09-23 17:57:17
74.   JeremyM
72 I think he's just trying to get his ERA over 5.00--and he's done it!
2006-09-23 17:58:50
75.   Simone
69 Agreed. Sheffield doesn't look right as yet.

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