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Surf's Up, Yankee Fans
2006-09-22 05:10
by Alex Belth

The Boss speaks (says he feels fine and that the Yanks will go "all the way"); Jason Giambi might need surgery on his left wrist this off-season (he's playing with a torn ligament); Tyler Kepner profiles Brian Bruney; Will Weiss looks at the Yankees division-clinching games since 1996; Christian Red writes about Ray Negron's new book; the Yankees are moving their AAA operations to Sranton, P.A.; over at the Replacement Level Yankees Blog, SG takes a look at the Good, Bad and the Ugly of the 2006 season; and last but not least, Bronx Banter reader Pistol Pete has arranged some clips of the Yankee's post-game celebration the other night over at You Tube. Good looking, bro.

I'm looking forward to see Gary Sheffield play first base this weekend down in Tampa. Nothing like a little hometown cooking to get him going again.

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2006-09-22 05:34:14
1.   NetShrine
AB - FYI, the link on the Brian Bruney mention points to YES, not the NYT.
2006-09-22 05:39:26
2.   Alex Belth
Yikes. I'll fix that. Thanks, man.
2006-09-22 05:52:30
3.   rbj
Wow, sounds like the Mets were left standing when the musical chairs music stopped.
2006-09-22 05:57:19
4.   pistolpete
Glad I could help out with the videos - I guess those of us in the tri-state take it for granted that we're able to see everything on YES while our brethren in other parts of the country get cut off immediately after the game.

Enjoy, all - I'll try to get these better organized in the future- I'm new to uploading anything on YouTube...

I'll do it for future celebrations as well if everyone wants...

2006-09-22 06:00:08
5.   pistolpete
BTW, here's a better link if you want the vids in order or want to bypass all that confusing stuff on my YouTube channel page:

http://tinyurl.com/m8a4b

2006-09-22 06:10:48
6.   Sliced Bread
Right on, re: Sheff, Alex. Can't wait. And Tino's joining Sterling tonight as Suzyn observes Rosh Hoshanna. I know some here don't appreciate the broadcasting Tino, but he can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned.

Great stuff from SG. I especially like that he gives props to Pena, and Bowa.

But I don't agree that the Yanks thrilling 14-13 win over Texas on May 16 was the game of the season.

The game of the season was Aug. 20, which SG beautifully breaks down as "the game that broke Boston's back." Definitely read his recap of that game. Giambi hasn't hit a home run since. Damn.

SG nails most of my favorite moments of 2006 including Melky's catch (June 6?) robbing Manny.

But SG missed my absolute favorite moment of 2006: May 24 - Fenway, 8th inning: Ortiz steps to the plate with the bases loaded.

Yanks up 8-6

Lord Kyle Farnswacker appears to be melting down with two outs. He has just walked Loretta, setting up Ortiz.

Power against power.

Farnstantinople freezes Papi, strikes him out looking at an 86 mph slider. Ortiz also went down swinging against Unit in the first, watched a Unit fastball blow by him in the 4th inning, whiffed on an outside pitch from Myers in the 7th, and got frozen by Farnwacker in the 8th.

I will admire Farnstantinople forever for that.

Turning point of the season (in my opinion) which SG did not write up:

Aug. 1 Abreu's Yankees debut. 4th inning. Abreu falls behind 0-2. Checks his swing several times, and works a 9 pitch walk.
Sets up Bernie's 3 run double. Yanks beat Blue Jays 5-1, but more importantly, Yanks 6th win in 7 games moves them into the AL East lead for the first time since June 18.

2006-09-22 06:11:38
7.   Sliced Bread
5 Pistol, I thanked you at the end of the previous thread, but again, great job!
2006-09-22 06:16:30
8.   Sliced Bread
I'm digging the Scranton move because I pass through there many times a year on the way to my in-laws in Siberiacuse, NY.

Will definitely be stopping by Scranton next spring-summer for some Yanks Triple A ball -- even if Phillip Hughes will be in da Bronx by Father's Day!

2006-09-22 06:56:45
9.   unmoderated
I look forward to a few Scranton road trips as well... they should have a BB night with Alex and Cliff bobbleheads. T-Long can throw out the first pitch.

...although that strange metal scaffolding around the airport you pass on I-81 creeps me out.

2006-09-22 06:59:26
10.   Chyll Will
SG --> Space Ghost?

Thanks a bunch, Pete, especially from those in the tri-state who don't have Cabledrivel or Crime Warner. Looking forward to it.

This all is starting to feel like 1996, with the mix of hardened, winning vets and giddy, ambitious youth led by a quiet, yet profound field general and his misfit assistants, complete with media derision from all sides. Next thing I know I'll be hanging halfway out a friend's window from five floors up screaming my head off. Good times...

2006-09-22 07:04:17
11.   wsporter
8 Slice, See you in S/WB.

Do you really think Hugheser the Abuser will be in the Bronx by Father's Day? Jesus I hope it works if he is. I'm hopping they let him get up to 7 - 9 innings slowly and a normal MLB workload for a middle of the rotation starter before they bring him up; if not next year then early '08. I had July/August in mind if he came up next year at all.

If he's up early next year I hope they don't let him fall into the Papelbon shoulder/arm problem syndrome. So many folks talk about the evils of babying pitching prospects but I think we've all seen the down side of rushing sub 22 year old youngsters whose bodies have not fully formed to the bigs. I keep asking what is the rush?

2006-09-22 07:06:59
12.   RIYank
Muchas gracias, Pistol Pete. Highly appreciated by all of us outlying Banterers.
2006-09-22 07:09:51
13.   Bama Yankee
10 Is the Space Ghost Reptilian? ;-)
2006-09-22 07:16:02
14.   Chyll Will
13 Banjo!!!
2006-09-22 07:42:26
15.   Peter
Thanks, Pistolpete, for posting those. It was fun to watch the celebration again.

I found a YouTube clip of Wang at the celebration from what I'm guessing is Taiwanese tv. It's only 8 seconds long but I find it pretty funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlKI_YhzwGo

2006-09-22 07:48:28
16.   Bama Yankee
6 Good recap on the Farnstantinople vs. Papi moment...

Also, I'm with you on Tino in the booth. I would like to see them bring in some other people besides Waldman to call the games on occasion. Maybe they could just give Waldman Saturdays off (since those are the games that I am forced to MLB.noTV's radio broadcast during the FOX blackout).

Does anyone know how Waldman got that job in the first place and how long until her contract is up?

2006-09-22 07:50:45
17.   Zack
The great thing about that youtube clip of the Wanger is how totally goofy Damon is. Exactlly like the guy you lived next to in college, which is exactlly how I would expect him to be. Downing the labatts, and screaming random words in total joy...
2006-09-22 07:58:28
18.   JL25and3
17 Definitely. I can see him in a huge penthouse on 5th Avenue, with a case of Old Milwaukee (and nothing else) in the fridge.
2006-09-22 08:01:12
19.   Shaun P
16 Bama, that BP article you found was the one I was talking about yesterday re: superstar trades - thanks!

Here is my favorite blurb from it, two trades all Yankee fans probably remember well:

"7. Athletics deal Rickey Henderson (26) with Bert Bradley to Yankees for Stan Javier, Jay Howell, Jose Rijo, Eric Plunk, and Tim Birtsas, December 5, 1984.

This deal illustrates fairly vividly the problem with dealing a superstar. You have Rickey Henderson, one of the very best players in baseball, already staking his claim as the greatest leadoff hitter in history. But your team isn't very good (75-87), so you figure: why not use Rickey to fill a bunch of holes on the team and pick up several promising players? The problem here is that you are left hoping that one or two of these players become regulars, or maybe one becomes a star, when you already had a star, a superstar in fact. And you just traded him away for some shiny gold rocks.

8. Yankees deal Rickey Henderson (30) to Athletics for Greg Cadaret, Eric Plunk, and Luis Polonia, June 21, 1989.

Four-and-a-half years later, Rickey is still a great player, so you get him back. Once again, there is no realistic hope that these players are going to add up to Rickey Henderson-in fact, it's a much less hopeful group than the 1985 lot. Nice reversal, but you missed out on some pretty good seasons, and Rickey might have helped out in 1987."

2006-09-22 08:35:09
20.   Bama Yankee
19 Shaun P, thanks for the excerpt from that BP article. I knew it would probably have something in there about those Rickey trades. I guess they also mention these:
1)Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas
2)Ozzie Smith for Gary Templeton
3)Tom Seaver for Pat Zachry, Doug Flynn, Steve Henderson, and Dan Norman.

I guess the moral is: Your HOFer in the hand is better than two in the bush (leagues).

2006-09-22 08:53:39
21.   wsporter
20 Bama, I'd have to say that the Ozzie for Templeton trade may be the exception to the rule. At the time of the trade Templeton was viewed as the real 'star' while Ozzie was seen as a defensive specialist that couldn't hit Twiggy's weight.

Boy did everybody have that one upside down.

2006-09-22 09:00:32
22.   David
Who gets home field advantage if the Twins win the Central Division and end the regular season tied with the Yanks?

The Yanks were 3-3 against the Twins this year; they went 5-2 against the Tigers. I assume the head-to-head record is the first tie-breaker, so the Yanks have the edge on the Tigers. But, what happens if two tied teams also have tied head-to-head records?

2006-09-22 09:06:28
23.   BklynBmr
4 pistolpete for president!

Thanks again, great work. Three more to go! ;-)

2006-09-22 09:13:17
24.   Peter
22 I believe the Yanks get home field. I think Bob Timmermann wrote yesterday that in that situation, the team with the best record against their own division wins.
2006-09-22 09:13:49
25.   Shaun P
23 4 I'd like to add my own "Here here!" to pistol pete. First you designed those Worm Burner signs, now this. Bravo!

20 Bama, they didn't include the Ozzie for Gary swap - probably for the reasons MFD wsporter mentions in 21. They did mention the Gary Carter to the Mets deal, and Reggie Jackson and Ken Holtzman for Don Baylor and Mike Torrez. I always forget Reggie played for the Boids one year, same as I always forget Kevin Brown did too.

2006-09-22 09:15:42
26.   David
24 Thanks, Peter
2006-09-22 09:16:09
27.   mehmattski
22 The wild card is always the fourth seed in the playoffs, so the Yanks would get HFA if the Yanks and the Twins had the same record.

But if the Twins were the Central champs and the Yanks and Twins both won their division series, according to this website (http://tinyurl.com/hbjsc), the tiebreaker after head to head is "intradivision games." The Yankees have a record of 41-23 versus the East; Minnesota has a 37-32 record versus the Central. The Yanks have 10 games left against East opponents and so can do no worse than 41-33; the Twins can do no better than 44-32.

2006-09-22 09:17:39
28.   Bama Yankee
21 Good point wsporter. I had been trying to think of an exeption to the rule. I guess I stumbled onto the exception by trying to prove the rule (even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then).

BTW, Templeton's middle finger salute to a fan in 1981 had a lot to do with that trade.

I still like the following quote from Whitey Herzog:
"He (Garry Templeton) doesn't want to play in St. Louis. He doesn't want to play on turf. He doesn't want to play when we go into Montreal. He doesn't want to play in the Astrodome. He doesn't want to play in the rain. The other eighty games he's all right."

2006-09-22 09:29:16
29.   wsporter
28 Yeah I remember that. The White Rat had a way with the language didn't he?
2006-09-22 09:43:36
30.   Bama Yankee
29 Yes he did. Here are a few more gems from Dorrel Norman Elvert Herzog:
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it."
"We need just two players to be a contender. Just Babe Ruth and Sandy Koufax."
"We need three kinds of pitching: left handed, right handed, and relief."
2006-09-22 09:46:06
31.   Sliced Bread
Man, no computer at work for several hours drove me nuts. At least I was able to sneak to the barber.

11 Nah, I don't think Hughes will be up that soon. Just talkin' smack. I agree they should take the Ernst and Julio Gallo Bros. approach with him: "Sell no wine before it's time" and all that.

2006-09-22 09:53:46
32.   Bama Yankee
31 Good analogy on the wine slogan there Orson "Sliced Bread" Welles. But wasn't that Paul Masson...
2006-09-22 09:55:08
33.   wsporter
30 Bama thats great stuff, what a great name, I had truly forgotten that. I was thinking about that quote from 28. Templeton was really the Anti-Jeter wasn't he? Can you immagine anyone describing the Captain that way? It just couldn't happen.

31 Slice, thanks for that. My world seemed to go spinning off it's greased grooves when I read those words in 8. I feel better now.

2006-09-22 09:56:45
34.   Sliced Bread
32 You are correct, sir.
2006-09-22 10:08:02
35.   Sliced Bread
Alex, just read the piece on Negron. I was going to wait until Christmas to get his book for my sons, but I might have to jump on that sooner.

Looking forward to the Negron piece you're working on.

2006-09-22 10:12:40
36.   Sliced Bread
Hey, is Cliff getting married tomorrow?

If so, is this the Bronx Banter Bachelor Party?

Good luck, and best wishes, Cliff!

2006-09-22 10:19:22
37.   wsporter
25 That year that Brown spent in Balto should have told us everything we needed to know about him in the AL before we made that deal. God was he awful. I know Weaver had to go but Oye Ve!
2006-09-22 10:20:13
38.   wsporter
37 Sorry that should have read MFD ...
2006-09-22 11:00:44
39.   mhmitch
28 Great Herzog quote on Templeton. I think it might have been Templeton who came up with the infamous line regarding his potential attendance at the All-Star Game: "If I aint startin' I aint departin'."
2006-09-22 11:26:02
40.   Shaun P
38 Not a problem at all, MFD! Speaking of old Union, are you planning to be there for homecoming this year?
2006-09-22 11:50:17
41.   wsporter
40 MFD, Are you going up? I was just there this August for a short trip. The old place really looks great.

I did my 25th a couple of years ago with my best friend from those days who remains my best friend (A dyed in the wool SAWX fan btw). So I don't think I'll make it up this spring. Spring is the really busy time in my business and it's hard to get away; I have to pick my spots. I have to be truthful about it as well; I found it a little depressing. I found that many of the people I liked either didn't go or had become the kind of people I can't stand hanging with.

In some ways though, it was a blast. Spending a gorgeous spring afternoon walking about a beautiful campus, checking out the co-eds and visiting old professors who can't quite place you all the while sipping from a fifth of Jameson that's been iced in a 24 ounce go cup holds a certain magnetic charm that is not to be missed. I do recommend it.

2006-09-22 12:02:04
42.   Shaun P
41 MFD, except for my best friend's wedding at Memorial Chapel last November, neither the wife (also a Union alum) or I have been back in years. A long story, which perhaps we'll get to share in person some time, over a fifth of Jameson in a 24 ounce cup.

A good friend of ours - another U alum - just moved out there, so we were thinking of going for Homecoming. Fall on campus was always my favorite time of year. Just something in the air, I guess. I dislike some of what's happened to the old place, but its still part-home-sweet-home.

It would also be nice to be able to walk around in a Yankees cap and not get jeered, as often happens in MA.

2006-09-22 12:15:32
43.   C2Coke
Thank you, pistolpete! You Rock!
2006-09-22 12:20:14
44.   wsporter
42 MFD I agree the campus is beautiful in the fall. For some reason I thought you meant Reunion not Homecoming. No I can't do it. You should definitely go and see your friend if you can. As my 30th reunion rolls around I realize even more keenly than ever that those opportunities to visit friends shouldn't be missed. Have a blast dude.

Shef tonight? I think so. You?

2006-09-22 12:26:35
45.   C2Coke
36 I believe so.

Cliff, Best of Wishes! And have a wonderful wedding day tomorrow.

We, the Banterers, will miss you and your always informative write-ups in the next week or so while you enjoy your honeymoon.

2006-09-22 12:28:00
46.   Shaun P
44 MFD, thanks for the advice. I think we are going to do it, and presuming we do, I'll let you know how it goes when we get back.

As for Sheff, I think he plays tonight too. I hope he pulls a Matsui in his return. If Giambi is even slightly off, the Yanks need Sheff's big bat.

2006-09-22 12:32:50
47.   Bama Yankee
I would like to echo everyone'e kind words about pistolpete. I finally got a chance to watch all that celebration footage.

Thanks again pete for spending the time and effort it took to provide that video to those of us outside of the YES viewing area.

Pete and all the other great posters here along with the great stuff from Cliff and Alex (not to mention Ken making it all possible) make the Bronx Banter the best place on the net for Yankee fans.

2006-09-22 12:47:29
48.   C2Coke
46 " I hope he pulls a Matsui in his return." Don't we all?

47 Hear hear!!

2006-09-22 12:51:43
49.   Bama Yankee
39 You are correct mhmitch, that was Templeton.
2006-09-22 12:53:50
50.   pistolpete
47 Thank you all for the appreciation - it definitely made the effort it took to post the videos all worthwhile.

I'll be sure to do it for as far as we go into the playoffs.

The World Series videos might take a bit longer than all the others, however. :-) My favorite post-Series clip has always been from 1996, when they had interviewed all the players, coaches, etc., and they finally got to John Sterling, who looked unusually disheveled & tired after all the revelry that night. I stayed up for ALL of it - it was such a great night to be a Yankees fan.

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2006-09-22 12:56:49
51.   Bama Yankee
48 Carl Pavano "pulled a Matsui" once and it landed him on the 15-day DL...
2006-09-22 13:02:40
52.   BklynBmr
45 Any truth to the rumor that Cliff will honeymoon in Tampa until Tuesday, then spend the rest of the week in the beautiful Bronx? ;-)
2006-09-22 13:04:53
53.   wsporter
50 Pistol I'd like to echo the thanks as well.

'96 was a wonderful time. After all those years of waiting and then after those first two games when it looked like we were soooo dead; just beautiful. Man I hope we all get to feel that way again this year. The masacre was just a small taste I hope. Wouldn't it be cool to see Donnie BB get a ring?

2006-09-22 13:06:37
54.   pistolpete
53 Donnie getting a ring would definitely bring my Yankees 'fanhood' full circle. I just got chills thinking about it.
2006-09-22 13:16:27
55.   Chyll Will
53 Getting teary just thinking about that.

50 Thanks again pistolpete, you're definitely cool.

2006-09-22 13:18:59
56.   wsporter
50 Bama, Pavano is so played but that is so funny. Line of the week for my money.
2006-09-22 13:19:37
57.   Yankee Fan In Boston
great off-day post. plenty of great links. thanks, alex.

I know that it has been said a few times already, but many MANY thanks to pistolpete. as you might imagine, the coverage here in boston was minimal at best.

one "sportscaster" (he's terrible) here showed highlights of the sox loss, briefly stated that the loss secured the division title for the yankees and followed that with:

"we won't be showing a single frame of yankee celebrations... why would we?"

i was livid. i'm sure it wasn't that way in NY in 2004.

whatever...

thank you. much obliged.

2006-09-22 13:20:05
58.   wsporter
56 Uhm that's 51 sorry.
2006-09-22 13:25:36
59.   Bama Yankee
53 That '96 comeback was extra sweet for me. Down here in the middle of Braves-bandwagon-country, I was hearing some serious smack from a 5th & 6th grade basketball team that I was coaching.

After we lost those first two games, I remember them giving me a hard time for wearing my Yankees cap during one of our practices. One of them said, "You still wearin' that cap" and I replied with all the confidence that I could muster "It ain't over yet, son. Last time I checked it takes four games