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The Doctor Will See You Now
2006-09-20 14:18
by Alex Belth

Doc Halladay, I presume?

Comments (417)
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2006-09-20 14:24:34
1.   Jeb
Something tells me that this is going to be House Money day at the Rogers Center. I don't know the lineup, but I think that some folks will get some rest.

Frankly, that might not be such a bad thing with a travel day tomorrow, particularly when we know that Henn is not going to pitch well as compared to Halladay.

I want the Yanks to win 100 games and to have home field advantage, but I also want them to be fresh. I'd tell Giambi to take the next week off and play Sheff at first.

QUESTION: Does everyone hope that the Yanks get the Paper Tigers or the Twins in Round 1? I'd personally rather have the team with the low OBP, High K'ing offense, young pitchers, and kids who've never been in the playoffs (who the Yanks went 5-2 against) than Johan & Company (who the Yanks went 3-3 against).

2006-09-20 14:33:36
2.   randym77
This could be interesting...

Melky Cabrera LF
Robinson Cano 2B
Bobby Abreu RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Hideki Matsui DH
Bernie Williams CF
Aaron Guiel 1B
Miguel Cairo SS
Wil Nieves C

Sean Henn P

2006-09-20 14:37:59
3.   Schteeve
There are teams that would kill for that lineup.
2006-09-20 14:38:31
4.   Fred Vincy
Clearly prefer the Kitties over the Twins, but the Tigers'll be better than they look now in the playoffs because it looks like Polanco will be back and Neifi Perez relegated to riding pine.
2006-09-20 14:43:30
5.   yankeemonkey
Didn't they say just a few days ago that Polanco is done for the year?
2006-09-20 15:01:13
6.   Simone
1) Damn, Giambi is being crushed on PTI and elsewhere on sports tv/radio for his comments in that article which were taken somewhat out of context. See, I'm right that people don't really want professional athletes to be forthright.

2) Yeah, it doesn't look good for the Yankees with Henn going against Halladay, but what you never know.

2006-09-20 15:05:05
7.   randym77
And here's the Jays:

Reed Johnson LF
Alex Rios RF
Vernon Wells CF
Troy Glaus 3B
Bengie Molina C
Aaron Hill 2B
Lyle Overbay 1B
Jason Phillips DH
John McDonald SS

Roy Halladay P

2006-09-20 15:07:45
8.   bloodyank78
I'm kind of sick of hearing how scary Johan and the Twinkies are. Yeah, I would rather face the Tigers out the gate, but if we do not, so what? The Yanks have beat Santana in the post-season before. The Twins have a good bullpen w/Crain, Rincon, Neshek, and Nathan as the anchor, but the they're not too good that the Yank offense cannot do damage to them. Besides, if the Twins are the best out there, I'd rather battle them first and move on. If the Yanks are going to do it this year, they better get it done no matter who they face.
2006-09-20 15:11:37
9.   SF Yanks
Wow! ESPN is going on for about 10-15 min. on the AROD STORY.
AROD has read all of the article and has no problems with any of it...
the timing...
and other nonsense...sorry it's just hard to let go of this.
2006-09-20 15:20:48
10.   joejoejoe
Ugh. ESPN is still going on and on and on about the A-Rod/SI story. Ten plus minutes with no break. Now Tino Martinez is throwing A-Rod under the bus. I love Tino but here you go...

356AB .233/.321/.351

Tony Womack? Nope. Tino's career post-season numbers. A-Rod?

118AB .305/.393/.534

And A-Rod's NEVER had on OB% lower than .378 in any Yankee post season series. Giambi's stats from 2004? He has none. He was left off the roster.

Give us all a break with the A-Rod bashing Tino. And ESPN, please, I beg you, stop mischaracterizing the Verducci piece. You had Verducci on and he said it wasn't a negative piece, and A-Rod said he didn't have a problem with a single word in the SI piece and Giambi's like a brother. So what's the problem?

Going on 15 minutes into Sportscenter - 14 minutes on A-Rod. If you are going to do a story about the story at least get the initial story right. Tony Kornheiser is talking about it and he admitted he hasn't even read it.

2006-09-20 15:25:44
11.   randym77
What did Tino say???
2006-09-20 15:30:06
12.   yankeemonkey
Note to self: don't go anywhere near ESPN tonight or the next few days. Thank goodness they don't have anymore Yankee games this season!
2006-09-20 15:38:07
13.   Simone
8 Word! The whole "fear the Twins" every post season when the Yankees play them is out of control. If the Yankees' pitchers are half-way decent, they beat the Twins.
2006-09-20 15:38:21
14.   joejoejoe
Tino was saying that it drives other Yankees crazy when A-Rod mentions other teammates slumps when talking about his own troubles (like Jeter and Mo blowing 3 saves in a week) and when A-Rod talks about other players getting lots of money as well. That part was honest but then Tino went into a rant about A-Rod's approach to the game and then cited a bunch of intangible bs that is based on vapor, not performance.

I'll let other people who saw it weigh in.

2006-09-20 15:46:47
15.   Simone
11 Tino said that the fans and players get tired of A-Rod's excuses when he struggles. No one wants to hear them. They just hear that he is working hard to come out of his slump. Also, some stuff about A-Rod beating himself mentally. Basically, Tino sticking the knife in A-Rod's chest rather than his back.
2006-09-20 15:52:09
16.   David
Glad to see Cano move up to 2nd in the batting order. He's likely to get 5 plate appearances.

Cano needs 38 more plate appearances to qualify for the batting race, with 11 games left.

If Torre rests Cano for one more game, Cano would need 3 PAs in two games and 4 PAs per game in the other nine games. That should be no problem.

But, if Cano misses 2 games and only plays in seven, he'd need 5 PAs in 2 games and 4 PAs per game in the other 7.

2006-09-20 15:52:09
17.   rbj
Sorry I missed it all, had to get groceries.
Can't wait until BBTN, maybe Peter Gammons will be the voice of reason.
2006-09-20 15:57:46
18.   randym77
Thanks for the recaps. I was curious, but not enough to actually watch ESPN. :-P
2006-09-20 16:01:04
19.   randym77
The Columbus Clippers are now the Nationals' Triple-A team. They will keep their nickname and continue to play in the IL. It's only a two-year deal, because the Clippers are hoping to land an Ohio team when Reds' and Indians' Triple-A contracts are up.

The Yankees are rumored to have reached an agreement with the Scranton Red Barons, but so far there is no official announcement.

2006-09-20 16:07:28
20.   Simone
Gammons is back on BBTN. Good to have the Red Sox shill back. However, it was fun watching Theo struggling to make deals at the trading deadline without Gammons floating fake trades on the Red Sox behalf.
2006-09-20 16:09:14
21.   Simone
Let's go Yankees! Let's go Twins! Play today, clinch the division today.
2006-09-20 16:09:19
22.   rbj
20 Heh.
2006-09-20 16:13:13
23.   C2Coke
That was one fast half inning.
2006-09-20 16:15:21
24.   Simone
Goldman has thoughtful comments about the SI article in the Pinstriped Blog (http://tinyurl.com/p3thd). I hope that Goldman's health problems are not serious.
2006-09-20 16:15:59
25.   Simone
Henn's ERA is 9?! Ugh.
2006-09-20 16:18:07
26.   rbj
F you BBTN.
Giambi, Torre, A-Rod all say the right things, yet BBTN is still trying to make out that there are deeper issues.
2006-09-20 16:21:57
27.   C2Coke
26 You know there is only one thing to do: turn BBTN off.
2006-09-20 16:22:11
28.   smingers
Chien-Ming Halladay.
2006-09-20 16:22:23
29.   Simone
I do have a question: how is A-Rod biracial? I thought both his parents were Latino. Just wondering. Does anyone know?

The Twins 1-0 over Red Sox. Go Twins!

2006-09-20 16:26:12
30.   C2Coke
28 Wang's my favorite. No question. But Halladay's the Doctor of groundballs with more experience and Ks. As efficient as Wang is, Halladay needs less pitches. Just as a baseball fan, it's a pleasure to watch Halladay.
2006-09-20 16:26:45
31.   smingers
25 A couple more outs and Henn will have a lower ERA than the Big Unit.
2006-09-20 16:27:20
32.   wsporter
20 Simone gets cranky harsh on Petey G. No grace period for the old guy?
2006-09-20 16:27:52
33.   C2Coke
29 I had exactly the same thought went through my mind yesterday without an answer.
2006-09-20 16:30:18
34.   rbj
29 Hispanics are actually Caucasian*, Spain is a part of Europe. A lot of escaped/freed/former African slaves in the Carribean (and even South America, just look at Brazilians) stayed in the area, married in with the Hispanic population. Look at El Duque, dark skin color, but a Latino because he's from Cuba.

*(not that race has any real meaning, biologically)

2006-09-20 16:30:40
35.   Javi Javi
They just used the phrase "house money" in the YES booth.
2006-09-20 16:35:43
36.   C2Coke
It's too bad one pitcher cannot carry the whole team on his back. I look at the Jays and know that they "should be" so much more talented than the Red Sox. Maybe next year with Chacin healthy and Burnett more stable,the Yankees can have a real rival.
2006-09-20 16:37:22
37.   rbj
35 I wonder if the YES people lurk on the Banter.
2006-09-20 16:38:18
38.   Chyll Will
28 ...with the Wang out.

34 Race is a social construct!

2006-09-20 16:38:50
39.   BklynBmr
OT: From today's NY Post:

"OLIVER Platt will have to get a shave and a haircut - he's been cast as George Steinbrenner in the ESPN miniseries of "The Bronx Is Burning," Jonathan Mahler's best seller, subtitled "1977, Baseball, Politics, and the Battle for the Soul of a City." The story sets the Yankees pennant race that summer - capped by Reggie Jackson's three consecutive home runs in Game 6 of the World Series - against the hunt for the Son of Sam killer, a blackout which erupted into full-scale looting and the brutal race for mayor between Ed Koch and Mario Cuomo. Variety reports that John Turturro will play Yankee manager Billy Martin."

2006-09-20 16:40:25
40.   Simone
Yeah, Robbie. Steal that batting title from Jeter and Mauer.

34 Trying to be tactful and not use the term, "race," I did a crappy job with my question. Latino usually means people from Latin American heritage. Like you said, they can be from a variety of ethnic backgrounds. I'm not even clear about what the term, "Hispanic" refers to any more. However, like you said, people from Spain are Europeans, but I don't think that they are considered Hispanic.

When A-Rod says that he is biracial what does he mean in terms of his parents? Is one of his parents of European heritage and the other Indian or African heritage? I just don't know a lot about his family background.

2006-09-20 16:44:04
41.   Simone
39 Eeeee, I love Oliver Platt. He is a good actor who will do Steinbrenner justice and take him beyond a caricature. Who plays Reggie? I would love Trevor Howard or Omar Epps or Mekhi Phifer to play Reggie.
2006-09-20 16:44:39
42.   smingers
The dreaded lead off walk.
2006-09-20 16:45:03
43.   Simone
Dp, Henn, dp! No more walks.
2006-09-20 16:45:25
44.   rbj
40 It's that Hispanic refers to Latin American people, but they are descendents of people from Spain, and Portugal (in the case of Brazillians).

I think A-Rod's mom was one of those descendents (from the Iberian penninsula) and dad's forebearers were from Africa (but then, all our ancestors were from Africa, if you go back far enough).

I hate race based classifications. Really meaningless.

2006-09-20 16:45:32
45.   LI yankee
39 Also starring Alex Rodriguez as the young lost boy who is to blame for all those troubles.
2006-09-20 16:45:41
46.   atc
40
My question is why did he say "biracial" in the same sentence as rich, good looking and bright? How is biracial similar to those other adjectives?
2006-09-20 16:46:42
47.   ny2
it's interesting a-rod would bring that up especially since jeter is the one who gets death threats for being biracial and dating "white women"
2006-09-20 16:46:47
48.   Simone
See BBTN is good for something. I get to see highlights during the Yankee game.
2006-09-20 16:50:13
49.   randym77
Well, those census forms always say, "Hispanics may be of any race." ;-)

I don't know much about A-Rod's family, either, but he sure looks biracial.

Not that you can tell all that much by looking at people. One thing that's come out of those DNA tests that are so popular now for genealogy and such...most people have mixed ethnic backgrounds, even when they think they don't. And looks are not a good guide. People who thought they were black find they have no African ancestry at all. People who thought they were pure European find there's a big chunk of African or Asian blood in their family somewhere. I'm tempted to try it myself, just to see if anything interesting shakes out of the woodpile.

2006-09-20 16:52:03
50.   Simone
Henn needs to settle down.

44 Okay, thanks.

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2006-09-20 16:53:01
51.   mikeplugh
Did Al Leiter just say that celebrating winning the division in Baltimore a few years back despite losing the game was "cheap shit"?

I swear I heard that and then dead air for a minute.

2006-09-20 16:53:04
52.   BklynBmr
37 I wouldn't be surprised if a few players lurked here.

41 Looks like Mekhi Phifer is already angling for the role ;-)

http://tinyurl.com/e5n49

Willie Randolph could almost play himself...

2006-09-20 16:53:51
53.   LI yankee
51 I think he said cheap champagne, not sure though.
2006-09-20 16:55:05
54.   Chyll Will
Jeter's bi-racial, don't see how that has much bearing. People like to pick on people who react is my best guess.

Terrence Howard would do Reggie the most justice, not because he's the hot name. He's a real talent, no offense to Omar and Mehki. Any other casting ideas?

2006-09-20 16:55:46
55.   rilkefan
44 - "I hate race based classifications. Really meaningless."

I certainly agree from an "all men are created equal/before the law" perspective, but there are one or two areas of life (genetic screening for certain diseases, use of some particular medicines) where it can matter.

I would think the important issue here is A-Rod's socioeconomic history - iirc his dad abandoned the family and he had a rough childhood.

Anyway, the post-season can't come soon enough.

2006-09-20 16:55:53
56.   Simone
Henn loads the bases.
2006-09-20 16:56:13
57.   LI yankee
Wow Henn seriously got squeezed that AB against Wells
2006-09-20 16:56:25
58.   rbj
51 Dang missed it. Had to let the dog in.
2006-09-20 16:59:57
59.   C2Coke
56 And he is at 60 pitches. Guess we can start early guessing who's poping out of the bullpen today.
2006-09-20 17:00:05
60.   randym77
Wow. Henn is doing the same thing Rasner and Karstens did. Escape artists, the lot of 'em.
2006-09-20 17:00:06
61.   Simone
54 That is exactly why I named Trevor Howard first. He always stands out in all the roles that he plays. What a talent. The only other actor I would like for the role is Don Cheadle, but he is too old and doesn't have the right physical build. Morris Chestnut is hot, but he is a blah actor.
2006-09-20 17:00:11
62.   BL-YF
wow-I'm impressed at Henn standing up to the pressure there.
2006-09-20 17:00:42
63.   C2Coke
Can believe Henn got out of it. Are the past three days unofficial auditions for the playoff?
2006-09-20 17:00:52
64.   Chyll Will
52 Karim Garcia?
2006-09-20 17:01:00
65.   Simone
Yesss! Henn doing an El Duque impersonation.
2006-09-20 17:01:59
66.   yankz
Have I mentioned that I love Cano?
2006-09-20 17:02:24
67.   C2Coke
61 Don Cheadle is one awesome actor.

And in 63, I kinda meant can't...

2006-09-20 17:02:50
68.   yankz
I really, really hope A-rod's 0 for his last 5 has nothing to do with Verducci.
2006-09-20 17:02:52
69.   yankeemonkey
Henn doesn't want to be left out of the "gritty rookies" mix...
2006-09-20 17:05:01
70.   singledd
From Fox Sports:
Although Angels GM Bill Stoneman has not made a splashy trade in his seven seasons as GM, the team is likely to re-open discussions with Baltimore for Miguel Tejada, perhaps re-engage Boston about Manny Ramirez and maybe EVEN TALK to New York about Alex Rodriguez.
2006-09-20 17:06:05
71.   yankeemonkey
71 Did Steve Phillips co-write that story?
2006-09-20 17:07:45
72.   singledd
eeee... cameraman gets a shot of Melky picking his nose. Do they look for these shots?
2006-09-20 17:08:26
73.   yankeemonkey
Wow...Halladay out of the game. What happened?! That's a shame, he's fun to watch.
2006-09-20 17:08:42
74.   singledd
70 from Hot Rumors: Posted September 20, by Ben Maller
2006-09-20 17:08:50
75.   atc
Steve Somers of all people on Espn News. They couldn't find another FAN host?
2006-09-20 17:09:03
76.   Chyll Will
61 I was thinking the exact same thing about Cheadle, all of it.

Uh-oh, what's up with Halliday? Did anyone see it?

2006-09-20 17:09:14
77.   Travis
I feel for Halladay, and I hope he's not seriously here, but does anyone else feel its a great opportunity for Sheffield to pinch-hit for Guiel and play 1B?
2006-09-20 17:09:14
78.   Simone
What is the injury delay about?

70 Someone tell FOX that the Yankees are not trading A-Rod.

2006-09-20 17:09:36
79.   randym77
Whoah. Halladay injured? What happaned?
2006-09-20 17:09:49
80.   Travis
77 *hurt, not here
2006-09-20 17:10:10
81.   rbs10025
59 Joe Ratzinger?
2006-09-20 17:10:25
82.   BL-YF
What happened to Halladay? I am stuck with gamecast and no additional useful information!
2006-09-20 17:10:58
83.   randym77
I didn't see anything happen. Suddenly he just called the trainer out, and that was that. <