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One More Pin Rodney
2006-09-19 19:18
by Alex Belth

There is only one kind of real daily tension remaining in the regular season for the Yankees and that's hoping that the team can get through each game without losing anyone to a significant injury. On Tuesday night, Derek Jeter was hit in the hand with a pitch, Johnny Damon made a funny motion with his left arm after making a poor throw from the outfield in the fith, and, later in the same inning, sustained some minor cuts on his left hand after making a terrific, game-changing catch. Jason Giambi left the game early with tenderness in his aching hand. The YES announcers did not say that anything to lead us to believe that it's a devastating issue, but nevertheless, it's enough to make you hold your breath.

Ron Guidry looked like his old fluid self tossing bp to Gary Sheffield this afternoon. The Yankee slugger, wearing a sweat-soaked t-shirt cranked Gator's first offering into the second deck of the Rogers Centre. He was activated and available to pinch hit tonight but did not appear. However, we will see him soon--regardless if Giambi will need a few days to rest. Joe Torre has stated that he'd like to wait until the Yankees clinch the division before he uses Sheff, and tonight, the Bombers (with a little bit of help from the Twinkies) moved two steps closer, their magic number reduced to one. Not bad when you consider the fact that Roy Halladay is pitching for Toronto tomorrow.

Jeff Kartsens pitched a very nice game and the bullpen was effective as the Yanks beat the Blue Jays, 6-3. Bobby Abreu broke a 3-3 tie with a two-run dinger to straight away center in the seventh and Godziller Matsui added a solo shot in the eighth (earlier, Jorge Posada cranked his 20th homer of the season). A good job all around by the boys tonight.

The Yankee announcers spent a good deal of the broadcast talking about Verducci's cover story on Alex Rodriguez, which will be on the stands tomorrow. After thinking about it for a few hours the thing that really stands out about the story is not that it tells us a lot that we don't already know, or haven't already suspected about Rodriguez and his teammates, but the fact that it reveals some of the behind-the-scenes atmosphere of the Yankees. One thing that has been a constant during the Torre Era is that the Yankees have kept their business to themselves. When Buster Olney wrote his book about the team he learned about a dispute that Jorge Posada and Tino Martinez had had while Olney was covering the team. Olney never knew about it and Posada told him that was because the Yankees didn't let anyone know about that kind of stuff. It was all handled in house. It doesn't get into the papers.

Af for the SI piece, well, I can't remember the last time we've read anything as intimate or direct about the Yankees since Torre came to town. It's not as if Giambi or Torre didn't realize that their words would get out there. Maybe that is part of what they are trying to do. I've spoken with a few people today who thinks if that is the case it's a lousy move on their part. No matter, let's just hope this doesn't shake Rodriguez out of the nice groove he's started to get in. The Yankees have too many good things going on to let themselves get sucked into any kind of controversy. Still, cruddy timing continues to plague Alex Rodriguez (who was 0-3 with a walk tonight).

Hold your head, bro, and way to go Yanks!

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2006-09-19 19:51:46
1.   Jim Dean
For a story I thought was dead, did SI pick a grand time to release it or what? In the doldrums of the pennant without Yankees-Sox to fan the flames. No doubt they sat on it for the last three weeks to get maximum exposure. Then every one will be talking again about the sma enonsense even as the story of the 2006 Yanks is NOT A-Rod. Gotta love the media - they'll sell their magazines. A-Rod: the story that keeps on giving long after its dead.
2006-09-19 19:57:11
2.   SF Yanks
Amen brotha!
2006-09-19 20:10:08
3.   Max
To continue on a thought from the previous game thread, it seems that the most likely scenario is that we clinch on Thursday -- the off day. Kind of strange.

It's not like we can't get to Halladay tomorrow, but making up the number of runs Henn is likely to give up seems pretty optimistic.

Boston has a decent matchup with Schilling tomorrow against Bonser, but Santana agsinst Beckett on Thursday may be the game that clinches it for us.

2006-09-19 20:10:30
4.   Travis
1 Many will remember that Verducci did a similar story on Gary Sheffield published on the eve of the Yankees-Sox series in 2004. My favorite quote, in light of what has happened in 2005 and 2006:

The MVP? "If it was A-Rod [having the year I'm having], it would be unanimous. If it was someone else, it would be unanimous. But why isn't it? Because it's Gary Sheffield. And I'm supposed to be flattered [by being mentioned]? My uncle [Gooden] said, 'Man, don't say anything' or 'Do this or do that' to get it. If I have to kiss your behind to get an award, guess what? I won't win it."

2006-09-19 20:17:39
5.   wsporter
Jesus Crist, it's like little girl, middle school gossip and nonsense; who gives a crap?
2006-09-19 20:21:34
6.   Jim Dean
1 By the way, is it any wonder why SI is a dying brand. I remember when I used to read it cover to cover as a kid three or four times each week before the next one came out. Now, this is their best attempt at an interesting story? Like it's somehow a fresh perspective? The quotes are interesting and all especially as they rarely escape Yankeeland, as Alex notes. I especially liked the bit about Donnie B having to order him into the cage. But puh-leze - I'd rather read all that stuff after the season's played out in a fuller Olney-style treatment. This smacks of Verducci thinking he'd lost his story - Word, he did.
2006-09-19 20:36:11
7.   Alex Belth
Good point, Jim Dean. If the Yanks and Sox were battling it out, or A Rod was still slumping, the story would have more bite. As it stands, Barra's cover article in the Voice last month was more timely. But there was no way SI was going to bury a juicy story like this one. Plus, everyone loves to bash A Rod. But what if people just passed on this and moved on...interesting.
2006-09-19 20:38:30
8.   yankz
This season would (will?) make for a great book some day.
2006-09-19 20:40:48
9.   Max
When you have this kind of view into the Yankee clubhouse, with these types of quotes...too good to pass up. Might not be timely, but it's still good reporting...I enjoyed reading the story. And what little we've heard of the "denials" doesn't exactly sound strenuous.
2006-09-19 20:42:01
10.   Simone
I don't understand why Giambi, Joe, et al. talked so frankly to Verducci about A-Rod. Jeter obviously refused to cooperate beyond giving his standard answer to the "why he didn't intervene on A-Rod's behalf" question. Someone in the Yankees organization authorized the team/coaches to talk to Verducci. I wonder who and why.
2006-09-19 21:09:34
11.   Max
If anyone expects this story to die...it may be a few days. Tyler Kepner's recap in the NY Times barely talks about last night's game or the magic number, but instead summarizes the highlights of the article and the "professional" relationships A-Rod has with Giambi and Jeter.
2006-09-19 21:15:16
12.   nycfan
"Jeter obviously refused to cooperate beyond giving his standard answer to the "why he didn't intervene on A-Rod's behalf" question"

I'm not so sure about that. The anonymous quote about A-Rod being used to only the numbers mattering in Seattle and Texas seems like Jeter. He always talks about winning being the only thing that matters and he probably still holds a grudge over the esquire article

2006-09-20 03:34:11
13.   Shaun P
It wasn't very pretty, but Karstens pitched decently again. Hopefully this means when the Yanks need an emergency start next year, Torre will be happy to have Karstens come up and make it. Instead of us seeing someone like Scott Erickson!

I also hope Sean Henn pitches well tonight. Its good to have pitching depth, as any Red Sox fan would tell you, and a nice performance out of Henn could enhance his value. Young lefties who can pitch are always desirable.

2006-09-20 03:39:08
14.   randym77
Agree that the most interesting thing about that article is the detailed and attributed quotes, particularly from Giambi. It's just not what you expect from the Yankees.
2006-09-20 04:57:49
15.   Jeteupthemiddle
The only part of that article I read (mostly because I'm lazy like that...a 10 page article? yeesh) was Giambi's quote on the cover.

Giambi is a dolt for saying any such thing about Arod considering his current slump (though I'm sure he gave the quote before the slump took place) and what was it? Oh yeah, 2004 and 2005. I don't think Giambi has any right to tell anyone to "man up" when he sucked so thoroughly himself for so long. Especially when said person won an MVP here.

I was asked recently "True or False: Arod will have an OPS of over 1.000 in September" My answer was "true, but no one would notice."

So far, I couldn't have been more right.

2006-09-20 05:14:27
16.   Paul in Boston
One consistent theme from all the reporting on the Yanks since the late 1990s is that Mariano Rivera sounds like a true mensch. I wonder if there's a word in Panama that means the same thing, because he's the real deal!

By the way, I have to agree this was excellent reporting. Maybe now the other journalists can let it die, but I doubt it.

2006-09-20 05:20:15
17.   Simone
Verducci was on ESPN's Mike & Mike a few minutes ago. He was defending A-Rod from the negative spin that Greenberg was putting on some of A-Rod's comments. Even Greenberg said that he thought that this whole A-Rod thing was in the past, but now it is back. He called A-Rod, "lightning rod."

12 Giambi, Posada, Joe, and Jeter all spoke on the record so the anonymous quotes are most likely from other players who don't want to get embroiled in this mess.

2006-09-20 05:24:30
18.   Sliced Bread
The Yankees; Torre, Giambi, A-Rod, even the anonymous quoters, granted Verducci rare access, and allowed the secret in-house mechanisms to be exposed because THERE'S NO STORY HERE.

If the Yanks didn't discuss A-Rod's slump among themselves, and to the media, that MIGHT BE A STORY. But THIS IS NO STORY.

Despite how the sports radio hosts, NY rag writers, Yankee-haters, and even the Yankee broadcasters themselves want to portray Verducci's "intriguing expose," THERE'S NO STORY HERE.

A great player, who's had image issues for years, forever it seems, went into a slump and got booed by thousands of NY fans who want him to somehow be Derek Four Rings, or Scott Brosius, or someone else he is not. Actually, I don't know what the booers want.

I figure for every booer, there was a silent supporter wishing the booers would shut their yaps. Verducci validates the booers, referring to them as "Yankees traditionalists" who question A-Rod's pinstripe worthiness. Silly notion.

Now, the booers are cheering his game again, waiting to see how he'll do in October, when they'll cheer or boo him mostly depending on how the team does.

This is a national baseball sensation worthy of ten pages, regurtitation and analysis, as the playoffs are about to begin?

Verducci compares A-Rod to a pretty girl. Fine. I'll take that silly analogy a step further. A-Rod is a Playboy pinup. Some appreciate what they see. Some say, "Eh, does nothing for me." But does anybody want to read ten pages about how the Playboy pinup had a bad month, confidence issues? Care to delve into her relationships with her fellow Playmates, or with Hugh Hefner? That might be a story, but not to me.

Would you rather watch A-Rod and the Yanks play ball, or keep analyzing the third baseman's psyche? Me too. END OF NON STORY.

2006-09-20 05:28:31
19.   Murray
11 Why write a detailed story about what makes an actual baseball game interesting and how the action unfolded when you can write your story about non-game "issues," during the game, file it for the bulldog edition the minute after Joe's post-game press conference ends, and head off to the hotel bar before midnight?
2006-09-20 05:34:00
20.   ny2
I think jeter said it best when asked about it yesterday: Derek Jeter: "That's all over with. Let it go. You're bringing up old stuff."
2006-09-20 05:48:09
21.   C2Coke
18 Well said, Sliced. You'd make a wonderful columnist.

I'd say we end this here on the Banter.

Maybe we can be the ones who focus on the fact that after all this, the Yankees are playing 30-games-over-.500 baseball. And that we have another month and a half to go.

2006-09-20 05:52:56
22.   C2Coke
I figured there may be a bit more people here, can someone please explain how the Toaster.TV works? (Please see sidebar, under Fairpole)
2006-09-20 06:01:25
23.   rbj
18 Amen, Sliced Bread.
Great news for the Yankees:
Magic # is 1.
Peter Abraham reporting that Mo is ready to go.
Yankees in the driver seat for HFA
Matsui's back and swinging well.
Shef's been activated.
Yanks have the opportunity to rest guys.
Karstens and Rasner look like they may be competing for the #5 slot coming out of spring training next year, possibly allowing the Yankees to flip Lidle and/or Wright (plus cash) for, um, let's see. Ah, middle relievers (so Torre can milk their arms for a year).
2006-09-20 06:01:42
24.   unpopster
"The Yankee announcers spent a good deal of the broadcast talking about Verducci's cover story on Alex Rodriguez, which will be on the stands tomorrow..."

I didn't watch most of last night's game but I'm curious, what were Singleton, Kay and Leiter saying about the article? Anyone care to paraphrase in a few sentences?

BTW, I have really grown to appreciate Leiter's contribution to the talking heads on YES. During Monday night's game, Leiter was very, very candid when discussing AJ Burnett. He spoke from his prespective as Burnett's teammate in Florida and essentially called Burnett stubborn and immature. He said that Burnett has great stuff but his fastball is straight, and no matter how much the veteran pitchers and coaches have tried to get AJ to change his style, Burnett has resisted. And Leiter went so far as to say that Burnett's mediocre career stats are a result of this stubborness. This was all on the air, no less!!!

2006-09-20 06:10:04
25.   Max
If someone wants to be amused by provocative quotes, they could do worse than to check out today's story about the war of words between Kevin Towers and Doug Mirabelli:

http://tinyurl.com/jwenv

Mirabelli refers to himself in the third person no less than six times in defending himself. Sample excerpt:

`Like I said, there are things he said that I don't think were totally accurate. It was unprovoked and it had nothing to do with anything except taking a whack at Doug Mirabelli.

``Hopefully I won't get crucified over one person's opinion of Doug Mirabelli. "

I actually thought I had stumbled upon an Onion parody, but Mirabelli is so crushingly insignificant that I knew it had to be the real thing.

2006-09-20 06:12:59
26.   Sliced Bread
21 23 Thanks.

The magic number will disappear soon enough regardless of who the Yanks trot out there. For the sake of rest, and risking further injury, here's the lineup I hope the Yanks mostly deploy between now and Sept. 26th when the Yanks come home for their final postseason tune up.

Sheff and Matsui should bat 3rd/4th and I don't care how they stack the rest.

Green 3B
Cannizaro SS
Cano/Cairo 2B
Phillips/Wilson/Sheff 1B
Fasano/Wilson (let's see what he can do) C

Guiel, Thompson should share CF/RF.

Give Bernie a little LF/DH duty. Matsui LF when he's ready.

Posada, Giambi, Damon, Melky, Jeter, A-Rod shouldn't play until the Yanks come home next week, and very little after that.

2006-09-20 06:14:36
27.   bp1
24 The big surprise for me this year is how good John Flaherty is in the broadcast booth. I know there is a lot of Leiter love around here, and I like him too, but he stumbles over his words quite a bit. He has a lot of great things to say, but he needs more practice in getting those things out of his mouth. Flaherty seems made for the job. He has insight, has a good sense of humor, especially about his own career, knows the players, knows the game, and is quite a smooth talker. I hope they sign him for a long term deal.
2006-09-20 06:15:51
28.   Chyll Will
Boo not letting this s#%! die. Hooray Sliced Bread!

Chyll Will said this yesterday and Chyll Will says it today. Hit the ball. Throw the ball. Eat the ball. Tell them to kiss your behind if necessary. Win games and have a nice warm cup of STFU.

Pretty please, with a cherry on top???

2006-09-20 06:28:27
29.   Sliced Bread
27 I like Flaherty too, even if I keep thinking he's Paul O'Neill until he pops up on screen.
2006-09-20 06:35:48
30.   rsmith51
29 How do you get Flaherty confused with O'Neill? Flaherty is very good in the broadcast booth, while O'Neill doesn't appear to prepare. As much as I disliked Leiter being on the Yanks last year, I am surprised how much I like him in the booth.
2006-09-20 06:37:06
31.   rsmith51
Why not DH Sheff tonight? Give Matsui the night off. The earlier he gets his hacks in the better off he will be, IMHO.
2006-09-20 06:37:33
32.   Sliced Bread
30 I think their voices are very similar, to my ear anyway.
2006-09-20 06:38:18
33.   JL25and3
4 Ah yes, the Sheffield selflessness. As renowned as Tholian punctuality.

I believe Sheffield was still ticked off at being "snubbed" in 1992, when he campaigned for it pretty actively. He had a great season that year, but I guess Barry Bonds kissed a lot of writers' behinds. Either that, or he just had a better season.

That was also the year that Sheffield talked to the LA Times about tanking on his team the year before, in Milwaukee. I can't imagine that won him a lot of votes.

2006-09-20 06:43:28
34.   Count Zero
To quote one of my favorite bloggers...

"Remember when SI was relevant? Neither do I."

2006-09-20 06:55:45
35.   Alvaro Espinoza
I was going to add my 2 cents but 6 and 18 said it better than I ever could have.

Ok, well one last thing which I believe somebody previously touched on: Kay pumping the story in the booth last night. At the time, not having read the story yet, I couldn't help but get the feeling that this was Michael Kay, the ESPN radio host, doing a segment on his show and not Michael Kay, the YES play-by-play guy. It sounded like Verducci's column would overwhelmingly read as high on style and little substance. Well, I just read the article and my Spidey senses were confirmed.

Nothing to see here, move along...

2006-09-20 07:05:32
36.   wsporter
34 Ah the Tholians, that's a tangled web you weave.

I wish we would just sit Giambi for the next ten days and give him the shot if he needs it. Maybe he needs a couple of months for the inflamation to disapear but could the 10 days rest hurt?

Giambi has two years remaining on his contract. He's no spring chicken and he seems to be breaking down. That might be the best reason i can think of to hang on to Shef. If he really can play first he might form a deadly 1b/DH combo with Giambi next year; the righty lefty dynamic would be impressive. Shef then also becomes an extreamly versitile and valuable player as he could also play the outfield to spell Abreu and who ever is starting in left on days when we face tough lefties.

I really think Ca$hman and Co. should give hanging on to Shef. a long hard look.

2006-09-20 07:07:23
37.   Knuckles
Why don't we leave the dissection of this article to people who have nothing better to do, like the Red Sox and their fans?

I'm interested in talking about more pressing issues:
- clinching the AL East
- securing home field advantage
- getting Sheff (and Matsui) back into the swing of things
- ID'ing the postseason roster
- seeing what we can get out of the young arms, which will enable Cash to accurately address needs this Winter
- figuring out how much of a delay there is between 880 and the TV broadcast so we don't have to listen to BuckCarver
- deciding who we want to face in the first round (I say Detroit: fading fast Polanco injured, young pitchers, free swingers, rather than a short series against Minny, seeing Santana twice, and a couple games in that quirky dome)
- figuring out which Mets fans in your office are for real vs bandwagon, so you know which ones to needle once they get bounced in the NLDS or swept by the Bombers

2006-09-20 07:11:28
38.   mehmattski
33 Easy on the Star Trek references, so early in the morning...

Just wanted to stop by with Random Stat of the Day, courtesy of MLB.com's sortable players stats:

Guess who leads the 2006 New York Yankees in "RBIs with runners on 1st and 3rd"?

Give up?

It's Bernie Williams, with 12! Just ahead of Cano, Posada, and A-Rod, who all have ten. You could look it up.

2006-09-20 07:33:46
39.   Simone
Just because some of you don't want to talk about the story any more and deem it a non-story doesn't make it your opinion the one that rules the day. The article is very interesting not because it analyzes A-Rod's psyche, but rather because it provides a window into the Yankee clubhouse that we rarely see as fans. A point that Alex made in his comments on the article several times. He felt that the article was so significant that he devoted a whole post to the topic and has even commented on it several times the thread.
2006-09-20 07:34:22
40.   Shaun P
When I first started posting BP's Postseason Odds, someone said I should let them know when the odds for the Yanks hit 100%, because it ain't over 'til its over, 2004 and all that.

Well, I guess its over.

BP Postseason Odds
Generated Wed Sep 20 08:56:52 EDT 2006

Yanks:
AL East: 100.00000
Wildcard: 0
Overall: 100.00000

Red Sox:
AL East: 0
Wildcard: .00263
Overall: .00263

2006-09-20 07:34:44
41.   RIYank
Look, I understand he's always been a lightning rod, his dazzling talent draws all eyes to him; I understand that his huge salary is a target on his back; and sure, his under-performance this year naturally draws the ire of the fan base... But in the name of all that is baseball, please, please 25, just leave Doug Mirabelli in peace and let the story die.
2006-09-20 07:41:17
42.   Chyll Will
37 I listen to 880 every chance I get since I don't have cable, and when the game is on My9 or Fox, I do what you do. I do believe that they have gotten much better in closing the gap; if there's much of a delay, it's down to split-second and even so, it's tolerable. Last year it was around 1.5 seconds and the year before 2 seconds. This year is much better.

I won't comment on Sheff until I see him. If the Yanks fall behind late in the game, I anticipate seeing him. If they clinch tonight, I expect to see him from hear on out. Point is, he needs real at-bats and with Giambi gurting, he'll get the long look we thirst for (apparently).

Dotel + 4R Lead = 3R HR. No mas.

A lefty long reliever would be nice. Who? We have to have somebody in the system, anybody?

My friend upstate claims her two supervisors are rabid Mets fans originally from the Bronx. Eh?? Is that like Yankees/Jets in reverse? I told her to go to work today with a Yankee cap on backwards, but she says there'd be funeral arrangements made if she did. I'm rounding up the posse as we speak, heh-heh...

2006-09-20 07:42:08
43.   vockins
Did anyone read the "Secret Sauce" article at BP today? Essentially, based on normalized strikout rate, closer quality, and defense, the article predicts the Twins will beat the Yankees in a five game series 3-1.
2006-09-20 07:43:22
44.   DarrenF
24 I heard Suzyn Waldman uncharacteristically annoyed at Yankee player (ARod) because ARod whined about other Yankee players (Mussina, Giambi, etc.). Waldman and Sterling both agreed that ARod said some things he shouldn't have said and, instead, he should just say, "Let's win a World Series."

For all of Torre's strengths, I've thought for a long time that he is ... errr ... inflexible ... in his managing style. Of course I am not complaining about the results and maybe a high-strung manager would lead the '06 Yankees into last place. But, in this context, it's intersting to me tha