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I Love a Rainy Night
2006-09-02 06:45
by Alex Belth
Note: The Bronx Banter blog has moved to bronxbanterblog.com.

I can only imagine what must have been running through a Minnesota Twins fans' mind last night as they watched Alex Rodriguez hit two homers and a bases loaded RBI single--"This is the guy who is supposed to stink?" Now batting .282 with 29 dingers and 99 RBI, Rodriguez, according to my pal out west, Rich Lederer, "is having one of the best seasons for a bum in recent memory." Rodriguez had that good look back last night--even when he grounded into a double play his second time up, his frustration inspired confidence, instead of a "here we go again" feeling. Lee Jenkins reports in The New York Times:

"He looks more comfortable," Manager Joe Torre said. "I'm pleased and everybody else is pleased, too, because he makes a huge difference."

After Rodriguez's first home run, the fans at Yankee Stadium begged him for a curtain call, but he did not respond. After his second, in the seventh inning, they begged again. Only when Torre told Rodriguez to acknowledge the cheers did he walk to the top step of the dugout and wave his helmet.

"Unless Joe tells me to go, it's not in my nature," Rodriguez said. "I don't feel comfortable doing that."

The Yankee third baseman was not the only offensive star--Derek Jeter and Bobby Abreu had three hits apeice too, as the Bombers rolled over the Twins, 8-1 on a rainy night in the Bronx. Corey Lidle got ahead of hitters consistently and tossed six shutout innings. Meanwhile, the Twins committed three errors and played a sloppy game.

The rain held off enough for them to get the game in. The swirling winds made virtually every fly ball to the outfield an adventure. Late in the game, Jorge Posada hit a line drive to center field. On the crack of the bat, Torii Hunter turned and ran to the spot where he thought the ball would land (Charles Euchner has a fascinating chapter about how outfielders track fly balls in his book, "The Last Nine Innings"). When he looked up, he discovered that the ball had dropped in behind him by a good 20-30 feet. "Wow," was all he could say.

It's actually not raining right now, but the winds are fierce. Not exactly an ideal day for playing ball, forget about sitting in the stands. Both Cliff and I will be at the park tomorrow. Hopefully, the weather will improve some by then.

Jason Giambi was back in the line-up but Mariano Rivera was unavailable and, as Kevin Kernan reports in the Post, the Yankees are holding their breath that their star closer will be okay come October. However, it is possible that both Hideki Matsui and Gary Sheffield could return before all is said and done. A dizzing proposition, for sure.

Comments (227)
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2006-09-02 07:33:37
1.   Matt B
I kinda hope they can get the game in, just for the novelty of seeing what the wind gusts can do to high pop flies.
2006-09-02 07:35:57
2.   yankz
I was there. Lots and lots of love for Arod (I guess more people are reading BB), and some great MVP! chants for the Captain. Lidle was great, never pitching into trouble. The wind made Torii Hunter look like a bonehead on Posada's double. Jeter's hit on the hit and run was a beauty.
2006-09-02 07:49:48
3.   randym77
I'd much rather see the game today on YES than tomorrow on ESPN.

But it doesn't look good. :-(

I suppose this means the U.S. Open will be rained out, too. Andre could probably use an extra day of rest...

2006-09-02 08:24:42
4.   C2Coke
It looks unpleasant to even go outside. Playing baseball in the Stadium will be dreadful when one can barely stand still in the wind.

3 Agassi played his heart out on Thursday. That was one awesome show. However, if it gets rained out today, he might have to play on Sunday and Monday if he keeps his skill up like he did this week.
Man, the National Tennis Centre would go insane if Agassi gets to play Roddick.

2006-09-02 08:30:59
5.   randym77
I'm old enough to remember when Agassi was a young up-and-comer. This last run of his reminds me of the 1989 US Open. Only then, it was Jimmy Connors in the twilight of his career. Young Andre sent him home in an epic five-set quarterfinal match. The crowd was solidly on Jimmy's side, the way they are on Andre's now.
2006-09-02 08:48:15
6.   pistolpete
Not to go off the beaten path, but can anyone believe what's going on with the Sox these days?

Now it's Schilling and Papelbon who are hurting. Makes you look at the Yankees' situation with a degree of thankfulness - that it all happened at the start of the season, and not now when the playoffs are soon arriving.

Hopefully Lester comes out of this okay - I wouldn't wish what he must be going through on my worst enemy - or any Red Sox player/fan for that matter. ;-)

2006-09-02 08:58:51
7.   Ron Burgundy
6 It's the Curse of the Gimpy Crow.
2006-09-02 09:04:38
8.   JeremyM
7 That story is too funny. And then the thing getting devoured by a hawk afterwards is just unreal.
2006-09-02 09:06:34
9.   LI yankee
7 It's kind of sad to go from getting cursed by the greatest slugger of all time to getting cursed by an injured bird. It's pathetic really...
2006-09-02 09:07:25
10.   murphy
today's pitching matchup in St. Louis:

Chacon v. Weaver.

hehe. : )

2006-09-02 09:11:36
11.   JeremyM
10 It's funny, I hate Jeff Weaver but I'll always have a soft spot for Chacon. I hope he can refind his curveball in the NL.
2006-09-02 09:16:09
12.   randym77
Chac did okay in his last start. I wonder if the problem was his knee all along.
2006-09-02 09:17:21
13.   C2Coke
6 At least Big Papi will be back in no time.
2006-09-02 09:19:26
14.   randym77
13 Do we know that yet? Last I heard, they were monitoring him for several days with a portable heart monitor. Ortiz says he can play today, but the team and his doctors seem to disagree.
2006-09-02 09:19:53
15.   C2Coke
5 Yea, and it's kinda fitting now Connors is helping Roddick with his game. However, Roddick still gets a long way to go be the man Agassi is (his character and his likability...if that's a word).
2006-09-02 09:21:18
16.   LI yankee
Is anyone watching YES? How's the rain looking at the Stadium?
2006-09-02 09:21:23
17.   C2Coke
14 I heard from the news that Papi could be back on Tuesday or Wednesday.
2006-09-02 09:22:03
18.   C2Coke
16 i saw the rain in the Tennis Center. It's not looking good.
2006-09-02 09:24:36
19.   RIYank
I'm not going to make any jokes about Lester. But with all these injuries, how the heck are Ortiz, Schilling, Manny, Nixon, 'Tek, and Papelbon going to enjoy a good game of golf in October??? They'll be reduced to watching television. I wonder if there'll be anything good on.
2006-09-02 09:26:30
20.   kdw
11 I'm the same way. Will also always have a soft spot for Chacon and want very much for him to get it back together.
2006-09-02 09:28:09
21.   LI yankee
19 There won't be anything good on in October...if you're a Red Sox fan!
2006-09-02 09:28:33
22.   Cliff Corcoran
You know, if they start this game and it gets called before it's official, thus burning Karstens, the Yanks could start eight different men in seven days, what with Moose due off the DL on Tuesday.
2006-09-02 09:29:45
23.   JeremyM
19 Lost will be starting again.
2006-09-02 09:30:04
24.   wsporter
Eddie Rabbit? Oh my!
2006-09-02 09:30:43
25.   RIYank
22 That's what I was thinking yesterday. (I mean, I was thinking it yesterday, and I was thinking it about yesterday. There, that really clarified what I was saying.)
2006-09-02 09:32:13
26.   randym77
Weather permitting...

Johnny Damon CF
Derek Jeter SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Jason Giambi DH
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Melky Cabrera LF
Aaron Guiel 1B
Sal Fasano C

Jeff Karstens P

2006-09-02 09:33:25
27.   LI yankee
26 Good to see Posada getting some more well-deserved rest.
2006-09-02 09:34:42
28.   Alex Belth
No Mo today or for the next few days...
2006-09-02 09:35:04
29.   randym77
And here's the Twinkies:

Nick Punto 2B
Luis Rodriguez 3B
Joe Mauer C
Michael Cuddyer RF
Justin Morneau 1B
Torii Hunter CF
Phil Nevin DH
Rondell White LF
Jason Bartlett SS

Scott Baker P

2006-09-02 09:37:14
30.   Cliff Corcoran
24 Judging by this and Will Farrell's Crystal Gale shirt in Talladega Nights, light pop country from the early '80s could be the next frontier of retro cool.
2006-09-02 09:38:37
31.   Cliff Corcoran
Aaron Guiel has an iron clad grip on the first base job, no? At least against righties.
2006-09-02 09:40:14
32.   LI yankee
http://tinyurl.com/jv62y

Just found this. Still gives me goosebumps, especially with that music in the background.

2006-09-02 09:41:14
33.   randym77
31 Pretty impressive, considering he just started playing 1B recently. He looked pretty klutzy at it before he was sent down, but seems to have picked it up quickly in Columbus.

I wonder if Sheff can pick it up that fast?

2006-09-02 09:52:09
34.   sabernar
I think the Yanks should just put Rivera on a shelf for a week or more. Just let the guy rest. Our other relievers can fill in for him on a rotating basis in the meantime. And keep resting Posada - the guy is probably exhausted by now. I wouldn't let him play any more then 2 out of every 3 games.
2006-09-02 09:57:30
35.   Sliced Bread
30 Yup, especially if it's up to Will Ferrell. "Afternoon Delight" never went out of style if you ask the REAL Ron Burgundy.

31 I have no prob with that. I think Sheff is eager to take that role from him. Last night, after Guiel sacrificed, he was getting congrats in the dugout, and I don't Sheff even looked up at him.

2006-09-02 09:58:45
36.   randym77
They ought to use this month to rest everyone, as much as possible.

Wonder if they're going to call up an OFer once the Clippers' season ends? It would probably have to be Bubba, with Jones DFA'd, Reese out for the season, and KT so sick. Unless they want to try Sardinha. He was an infielder, but has been playing mostly outfield lately.

2006-09-02 09:58:50
37.   LI yankee
DAMN MLB.TV! it has the game blacked out. Didn't someone have a way to get through the restrictions a while back?
2006-09-02 10:04:40
38.   BklynBmr
34 I'm starting the official Bruney Bandwagon Club. This guy looks like he could go every day, in any spot you want to use him...

35 Funny, I caught that too. Sheff was sitting right next to the bat rack, looking down and did not lift his head when Guiel passed by. Hmmmm.

2006-09-02 10:04:45
39.   nemecizer
Okay, youse guys are going to call me a pussy, but I had tickets for the game to day and chickened out. It's fucking freezing outside. Is this October?

I am going to watch from the warmth of my apartment with my good friend Johnny Walker. I am kinda hoping it will get rained out so I can take a rain check and go tomorrow.

If not, LET'S GO YANK-EES!

2006-09-02 10:05:38
40.   joejoejoe
It's so cool to have Aaron Guiel on this team. The idea of being released by the Royals and then getting picked up by the Yankees and contributing is just too fun. If Melky gets the day off for Bernie in RF the Yankees can roll out 9 All-Stars (including DH) and Guiel. That makes anything and everything positive contributed by Guiel a backbreaker. ESPN has a good piece on Guiel from '04 about his 935 games in the minors. That's some journey.

http://tinyurl.com/olwmo

2006-09-02 10:06:48
41.   BklynBmr
37 Not positive, but I think that was bobtaco? SF Yanks should know if he stops by...
2006-09-02 10:07:48
42.   RIYank
David Pinto has a very interesting Musing today. It starts off being about the Blue Jays' implosion, but by the end it's about 'schools' of managers. Briefly: he speculates that there is a new 'school', the Torre School, which is a hybrid of the Hanlon and Rickey schools.

http://tinyurl.com/kksz5

2006-09-02 10:09:02
43.   Sliced Bread
38 I'm with you re: Bruney. He's the nuts.
2006-09-02 10:09:47
44.   Cliff Corcoran
I caught that lack of acknowledgement of Guiel by Sheff as well.
2006-09-02 10:10:03
45.   JeremyM
The Red Sox have the Aaron Guiel of pitchers throwing for them today, Kevin Jarvis, freshly acquired from Arizona 2 days ago.

Nice link on Guiel by the way. I've seen him play a lot of games for the Omaha Royals.

2006-09-02 10:10:16
46.   Cliff Corcoran
Game on.

Fly out Karstens is in effect.

2006-09-02 10:11:08
47.   Marcus
7 I think the "Curse of the Gimpy Crow" may have some staying power, but I'd just like to point out as a nerdy bird watcher that the bird was actually a common grackle, not a crow. They looked pretty similar, but the grackle is a bit smaller than a crow.

One Boston writer seems to have gotten it right:

http://tinyurl.com/jv62y

2006-09-02 10:11:22
48.   LI yankee
41 Are either of you guys on today? Help would be much appreciated.
2006-09-02 10:11:57
49.   BklynBmr
Maybe Damon should get a day or two off. He's gonna pull a hammy out there...
2006-09-02 10:14:16
50.   nemecizer
47 Important question Marcus, can Grackles bestow curses?
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2006-09-02 10:14:54
51.   randym77
Joe did say he wanted to rest Damon more. Too bad our only backup CFer is GOB.
2006-09-02 10:18:44
52.   nemecizer
Not off to a good start here.
2006-09-02 10:18:55
53.   Marcus
50 If Bambinos, goats, creature's ghosts, were-rabbits, and black pearls can cause curses, surely grackles can.
2006-09-02 10:19:57
54.   randym77
Oh, man. What a catch by Sal.
2006-09-02 10:21:06
55.   kdw
48 Ditto for me if you hear anything. Fox here is showing an old movie and the black-out is still on.
2006-09-02 10:21:37
56.   kdw
54 What happened? Thanks.
2006-09-02 10:22:04
57.   bobtaco
37 Email me, bobtaco at yahoo dot com.
2006-09-02 10:22:06
58.   bobtaco
37 Email me, bobtaco at yahoo dot com.
2006-09-02 10:22:50
59.   randym77
Popup caught by the wind. He had to run a lot farther than he thought, then ended up juggling the ball. I thought he was going to drop it for sure, but he managed to grab it with his other hand.
2006-09-02 10:24:54
60.   Sliced Bread
56 Sky high pop up which appeared to be in fair territory in front of the plate.
Sal did a great job of tracking the wind blown ball about half way to the Yanks dugout. He bobbled it, but held on for the final out. Hunter was not pleased.
2006-09-02 10:25:11
61.   LI yankee
57 Will do
2006-09-02 10:27:51
62.   kdw
57 Would you mind if I emailed you too, I'm having the same issue? Thanks.
2006-09-02 10:32:04
63.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Yesterday I posted that Melky's day/night split were severe, with him platying much better at night.

Giambi's the exact opposite:
.216/.356/.487 night

and an amazing .344/.523/.784 during the day

. . . and with that he pops up.

2006-09-02 10:32:08
64.   bobtaco
62 Sure, please do...
2006-09-02 10:37:17
65.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
The other interesing thing about G's splits is that he has been relatively poor in the 3hole in 56 games, ok cleanup in 30 games, and absofriggin brilliant in the 5 hole -- where he's hitting .356/.551/.851.
2006-09-02 10:38:12
66.   kdw
60 and 64 Thanks.
2006-09-02 10:41:36
67.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
I'll add that unfortunately A-Rod also hit much better 5th than he does 4th or 3rd.

Also look for Giambi to suck in September -- hot April, June, and August, poor in May and July. The good news is that he could carry the team in October if the hot/cold month thing continues.

A-Rod's been the opposite of Giambi with a cold April, June, and August and hot May and July and looking good in Sept.

2006-09-02 10:51:47
68.   singledd
What the F is the matter with Fox. There are NO games televised today in my area. NONE. Yet they still black out MLB.

So corporate. So thoughtless. So Fox.

2006-09-02 10:53:13
69.   maineyank
FOX is the pits across the board. Everything they do
2006-09-02 10:54:00
70.   singledd
I'm lowered to 'watching' on game day... worst then doing a fat. ugly chick. Can I get an update on the weather. Will it go at least 5? Will it go more.

Is Karstens doing any good?
Is Baker holding someone's child hostage?

2006-09-02 10:55:50
71.   BklynBmr
70 I can tell you one thing: the Yankees are being no-hit right now...
2006-09-02 10:56:18
72.   Alvaro Espinoza
70 Cold, clammy, windy, steady drizzle.

Let's play two!!!

2006-09-02 10:56:56
73.   Ron Burgundy
I understand I'm going to have to kill Adam Loewen and Scott Baker. How can two pitchers so horrible that the rest of the league tattoos them own us so much?
2006-09-02 10:57:16
74.   JeremyM
The Yanks don't have any hits? None? Zero? Nada? Nil?
2006-09-02 10:58:59
75.   BklynBmr
73 [Johnny Sacks] They need to go... [/Johnny Sacks]
2006-09-02 10:59:38
76.   Ron Burgundy
68 Incredible, aren't they? I check what game I ight see, and I see boxes being moved. Exhilarating.
2006-09-02 10:59:50
77.   JeremyM
Pena is at first for Boston day. No, not Carlos---Wily Mo.
2006-09-02 11:00:39
78.   randym77
I think Baker's an honorary URP.

Though according to the YES announcers, after Liriano, Baker is the pitcher everyone wants.

2006-09-02 11:00:54
79.   Bama Yankee
68 I'm getting the YES broadcast down here in Alabama, so I'm not sure it's a Fox blackout. Maybe MLB.TV has just made a mistake and forgot to turn off their blackout message.
2006-09-02 11:01:19
80.   Bob Timmermann
The boxscores say it's Carlos.
2006-09-02 11:01:37
81.   Ron Burgundy
75 They really do. What the hell is their problem? They suck against everyone else but turn into Randy Johnson and Greg Maddux against us. And Baker is even worse than Loewen. It's still the 3rd, but nobody in the line-up has even put up a fight against him other than Guts and Guiel.

I'm guessing Johnny goes deep here.

2006-09-02 11:01:46
82.   rbj
47 (joining in late).
Curse of the Gimpy Common Grackle? CGCG? (as opposed to CGBGs)

Gee, I'm actually getting the game on EI

and 39 You're pussy nemcizer. Just grab a sweater & rain slicker. /jk.

2006-09-02 11:03:55
83.   JeremyM
80 Damn that infernal CBS Sportsline.
2006-09-02 11:04:09
84.   randym77
MVP! MVP! MVP!
2006-09-02 11:04:11
85.   rbj
Gee, I didn't realize that the Yanks are not only being shut out, but no hit as well.

And as soon as I type that, Jeter comes through.

2006-09-02 11:04:20
86.   JeremyM
Nice Jeter!
2006-09-02 11:04:43
87.   Bob Timmermann
I turned the Red Sox game on and it's definitely Carlos Pena at first.
2006-09-02 11:05:42
88.   Ron Burgundy
Jeter hits an RBI Double. That's so typical of him.
2006-09-02 11:06:17
89.   JeremyM
87 You've ruined my day. For some reason guy playing out of position interests me. Johnny Damon at first made my year.
2006-09-02 11:07:40
90.   BklynBmr
Way to go, Cap!!!

79 Way out west, we're getting the Giants-Cubs on FOX in a few minutes. I'm also getting the YES feed on EI, which is rare for a Saturday...

82 I like the simplicity of 'Crow' myself. Here's my new hero:

http://tinyurl.com/rohxn

2006-09-02 11:08:05
91.   randym77
89 That was great. The look on his face when Proctor threw to first - way high.

There there was "Wheels" Wright, pinch-runner...

2006-09-02 11:09:48
92.   Alvaro Espinoza
That's a BOMB!
2006-09-02 11:10:15
93.   JeremyM
Well, good thing Sal caught that popup last time Hunter was up.
2006-09-02 11:10:53
94.   rbj
90 Nice pic.
2006-09-02 11:13:10
95.   Ron Burgundy
You did NOT just walk Rondell White!
2006-09-02 11:14:32
96.   randym77
Wow, Robbie almost got that one.
2006-09-02 11:15:15
97.   JeremyM
95 No kidding. I hate White because I thought he would be a good player for the Yanks--instead, he stunk.
2006-09-02 11:17:29
98.   rbj
OK, time to stop all these letter-Rods. Alex is the one and only.
2006-09-02 11:18:21
99.   Ron Burgundy
Karstens' unpleasant pitching wouldn't be so infuriating if we had managed something big off Scott "Maddux" Baker, the fucking Canadian. This is where we score 6 runs off that stupid hockey player.
2006-09-02 11:20:28
100.   randym77
Hey, I like Canadians. Aaron Guiel is a Canuck.
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2006-09-02 11:20:43
101.   Ron Burgundy
Giambi will make things happen with his OBP.
2006-09-02 11:22:33
102.   RIYank
Agassiz/Blake are at 6-6 in the tiebreaker of the fifth set.
2006-09-02 11:22:43
103.   Ron Burgundy
Hmm...Burgundy doesn't like what he sees. Stupid WIND.
2006-09-02 11:23:21
104.   BklynBmr
98 Hear, hear!
2006-09-02 11:24:15
105.   randym77
102 Are you serious? Another five-setter?
2006-09-02 11:24:21
106.   RIYank
Great point won by Ag., then Blake double-faults, and Andre wins!
2006-09-02 11:26:14
107.   rbj
Yea Andre!
2006-09-02 11:27:31
108.   Travis
102 Isn't that a replay from last year? Agassi's next match is against Brian Becker.
2006-09-02 11:27:48
109.   randym77
Wait a minute, wasn't it last year that Agassi beat Blake in a five-setter? I bet they are showing last year's match because of the rain.

Agassi is supposed to play Becker today, not Blake.

2006-09-02 11:30:29
110.   Ron Burgundy
Damn right, get Mauer out.
2006-09-02 11:31:54
111.   Zack
Karstens got a 6-7 gb/fb ratio. Pretty good for him
2006-09-02 11:32:21
112.   Ron Burgundy
ERA of 6.89 and WHIP of 1.59.

Seriously, we knock this mo-fo out this inning and take a big lead.

2006-09-02 11:32:26
113.   Zack
108 109 omg, too funny!
2006-09-02 11:36:47
114.   Zack
Wow, i just used omg, time to have some more coffee...
2006-09-02 11:37:37
115.   Alvaro Espinoza
That 3-2 pitch to Fasano was awfully close.
2006-09-02 11:37:53
116.   Ron Burgundy
Johnny will moisturize the situation.
2006-09-02 11:38:11
117.   randym77
I still want to know why Damon decided to get rid of the 'stache.
2006-09-02 11:38:34
118.   3rd gen yankee fan
I just woke up. Where the hell is our offense?!?! Are they gonna let Mr. 3-7 With An ERA near 7 one-hit them?
2006-09-02 11:40:17
119.   Alvaro Espinoza
Baker has lost the strike zone a bit here. Even his 2-0 strike to Damon was nowhere near the target. Hello, Derek!...
2006-09-02 11:40:49
120.   BklynBmr
OK. Let's start smacking this kid around!
2006-09-02 11:41:14
121.   3rd gen yankee fan
There we go.
2006-09-02 11:41:38
122.   Ron Burgundy
118 That's why I suggested terminating Loewen and Baker. They suck, but they own us.
2006-09-02 11:41:39
123.   RIYank
Oh, man. 109
Sorry. I just flipped the set on and had the sound off. I'm sure you're right.
2006-09-02 11:43:45
124.   Alvaro Espinoza
So much for that. Baker came back with some nasty pitches to Jeter.
2006-09-02 11:43:58
125.   BklynBmr
@$@! That was a nasty pitch.
2006-09-02 11:44:20
126.   Bob Timmermann
Methinks that Mr. Jeter was not expecting that curve ball.
2006-09-02 11:44:26
127.   Ron Burgundy
Christ on a Cracker!

This is SCOTT BAKER!
He has an ERA near 7.00!
He's even worse than Loewen!
WTF?!

2006-09-02 11:46:23
128.   rbj
127
Ron, you're going about it the wrond way.

C'mon Yankee hitters, step it up, this Baker guy has won 3 Cy Youngs. He's a sure fire first ballot HoFer.

2006-09-02 11:47:31
129.   nemecizer
Ugh, Karstens at 81 pitches in the top of the sixth.

Where is offense today?

BTW, it is ugly outside in SoHo.

2006-09-02 11:48:43
130.   singledd
Karstens is from our farm, correct?
Can anyone tell me how he has done in the minors?
2006-09-02 11:49:02
131.   Cliff Corcoran
Just stepped out for lunch in the West Village. It's cold and dank and the wind and drizzle are picking up, particularly the wind.
2006-09-02 11:49:25
132.   JeremyM
The 6th is going to be a big inning. I'm calling it.

If Karstens can finish up this inning OK I am MORE than happy with the job he has done so far.

2006-09-02 11:49:39
133.   Ron Burgundy
128 I'm flat out confused as to how four of the worst pitchers in baseball [Lopez, Chen, Loewen, Baker] can own us like this.
2006-09-02 11:49:47
134.   Cliff Corcoran
130 Good K/BB ratios, good control, but average ERAs (in the 4s), check the BC link next to his name on the sidebar.
2006-09-02 11:50:26
135.   Alvaro Espinoza
It's official: we've got a pitching dual on our hands!
2006-09-02 11:50:39
136.   Ron Burgundy
131 Went to a local SUBWAY to get lunch, and it is WINDY out there. People had trouble walking through the wind here in Brooklyn.
2006-09-02 11:50:39
137.   rbj
Quality start by Karstens.
2006-09-02 11:51:00
138.   BklynBmr
127 If we see the Twins in the PS and I'm Gardenhire, I'm throwing Baker in Game 1. This is ridiculous...
2006-09-02 11:51:11
139.   Cliff Corcoran
133 I'd rather the Yanks struggle against bad and/or inexperienced pitchers and do well against the good ones than vice versa, because they see very few bad/inexperienced pitchers in the postseason.

That said, I've yet to see (or do) a study that confirms what we all claim to see by watching.

2006-09-02 11:53:49
140.   Ron Burgundy
139 Agreed, but if we do see one of these bad pitchers in the postseason...
2006-09-02 11:54:11
141.   randym77
130 He's better than his numbers, IMO. He struggled at the beginning of the year. I think they even sent him back down to Trenton for awhile. But he's been pretty strong recently.
2006-09-02 11:54:25
142.   Alvaro Espinoza
Baker departs...
2006-09-02 11:54:37
143.   BklynBmr
Look at that rain. We need to scratch out a run here...
2006-09-02 11:54:53
144.   Cliff Corcoran
Baker shut down the Yanks back in April as well: 1 R on 3 H in 7 IP, 1 BB, 4 K. They did better against him today, 1 R on 2 H in 6 IP, 3 BB, 4 K.
2006-09-02 11:55:26
145.   Alvaro Espinoza
Two words for Dennys Reyes' picture on ESPN:

Not flattering.

2006-09-02 11:56:38
146.   BklynBmr
Jason: now 3-23 and not a boo to be heard...
2006-09-02 11:57:21
147.   BklynBmr
About time for an A-Bomb right here.
2006-09-02 11:58:04
148.   BklynBmr
Ughhh...
2006-09-02 11:58:06
149.   Ron Burgundy
You've got to be kidding me.
2006-09-02 11:58:23
150.   randym77
They didn't boo A-Rod this time, did they?
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2006-09-02 11:58:32
151.   JeremyM
132 Last time I do that.
2006-09-02 11:58:33
152.   Cliff Corcoran
Here's what I said about Karstens before his first start, includes a summary of his performance in the minors:

http://bronxbanter.baseballtoaster.com/archives/482476.html

2006-09-02 11:59:32
153.   Cliff Corcoran
Reyes has been unhittable this year.

Meanwhile, here's what I said about Karstens before his first start, includes a summary of his minor league performance:

http://bronxbanter.baseballtoaster.com/archives/482476.html

2006-09-02 11:59:41
154.   Cliff Corcoran
D'oh!
2006-09-02 12:04:18
155.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Shame to waste an outing like this from the kid.
2006-09-02 12:04:18
156.   BklynBmr
I think we're going to have a great young starting rotation in a few years. This Karstens kid seems like the real deal so far...
2006-09-02 12:05:23
157.   3rd gen yankee fan
Yeah I'm happy with what Karsten's done today.
2006-09-02 12:06:21
158.   Ron Burgundy
155 Well, you can't expect to beat Scott Baker. He's a special pitcher. So special, that the rest of the league has raped him, while we couldn't even get more than 2 hits.
2006-09-02 12:08:49
159.   3rd gen yankee fan
C'mon Melky!!!
2006-09-02 12:14:56
160.   yankz
How does this happen? The offense was on fire last night. Just a few hours later...
2006-09-02 12:15:28
161.   Alvaro Espinoza
Wow, what an embarrassing AB by Luis Rodriguez. Take the bat off your shoulders!
2006-09-02 12:16:01
162.   randym77
The weather looks nasty.
2006-09-02 12:16:03
163.   Cliff Corcoran
Fantastic start by Karstens, but the lone strikeout is a bummer. With the majority of his outs coming on fly balls, he's gotta get back to that nice K-rate he showed in the minors.
2006-09-02 12:16:34
164.   Ron Burgundy
160 Scott Baker happened. He also shut us out back in April. Him and Adam Loewen are the tag-team from hell.
2006-09-02 12:18:55
165.   JeremyM
So whatever happened to stormersports...? Hmmmm.
2006-09-02 12:19:17
166.   BklynBmr
Another run here might as well be 8 runs. Get out of it now, Ron!
2006-09-02 12:21:19
167.   BklynBmr
Wow! That Olerud swing comparison was eerie...
2006-09-02 12:21:54
168.   randym77
Ugh.

Villone's cooked. Rest him already.

2006-09-02 12:22:01
169.   Zack
Well, that there is the game folks...
2006-09-02 12:22:06
170.   Alvaro Espinoza
Security to the bat rack!!!
2006-09-02 12:22:21
171.   Ron Burgundy
This is over. Pricks, couldn't do anything against SCOTT BAKER.
2006-09-02 12:22:26
172.   Alex Belth
Yeah, but Johnny didn't generally have the pop to hit line drive dingers to left. Man, Morneau had good three good swings in that ab.
2006-09-02 12:22:28
173.   LI yankee
Now we have the GOV, great
2006-09-02 12:22:45
174.   JeremyM
Well, I'd rather lose 5-1 than 2-1, if that makes sense!
2006-09-02 12:23:13
175.   Zack
Well, for all you cold and windy and wet New Yorkers, if it makes you feel any better, I am about to head out to the El Centro/Mexicali area where it is currently 114 degrees. So, it could be worse...
2006-09-02 12:24:23
176.   Bob Timmermann
175

Nobody needs to go to El Centro.

Ever.

Do you have relatives in Calipatria?

2006-09-02 12:24:53
177.   3rd gen yankee fan
That's it, bring in the Enforcer.
2006-09-02 12:25:32
178.   bobtaco
Villone should never have been used in this game.
2006-09-02 12:27:36
179.   Cliff Corcoran
173 This is no Ghost of Villone, he's been pitching way over his head all year. So what you're seeing is statistical correction + the Torre "trust" effect. Ugly.
2006-09-02 12:28:06
180.   BklynBmr
175 I'm sitting in the middle of exactly where the Yanks' offense has been all day — in the fog. (Just another cold, damp, overcast S.F. summer day.)

In the face of all logic and common sense, we still have two cracks at it, assuming The Bruiser gets out of it here...

2006-09-02 12:28:12
181.   3rd gen yankee fan
aaaaaaaaaaaaargh
2006-09-02 12:28:31
182.   Zack
176 We have a friend who lives outside of Mexicali, so we are meeting up in El Centro or Calexico and then driving down there for the night. So its not really by choice.
2006-09-02 12:29:17
183.   Cliff Corcoran
Bruney is one guy for whom the yankees should make an exception to their beard rule. He looks awful in that ratty mustache, but with a full beard in his Gameday photo he looks much better.
2006-09-02 12:29:28
184.   Zack
{182} I should add that I already live in San Diego, so its not like I am breaking the bank to go to El Centro, God forbid...
2006-09-02 12:29:56
185.   Bob Timmermann
182

Not by choice. Sort of like how people come to live in Calipatria.

2006-09-02 12:30:43
186.   rbj
Crap.

I've been outside, doing chores. Usually when I'm not watching the Yanks do well.

2006-09-02 12:30:54
187.   BklynBmr
OK. 5 runs. No problem...
2006-09-02 12:32:21
188.   Zack
You don't live in Calipatria, do you? If so, i offer my condolences...
2006-09-02 12:32:34
189.   Stormer Sports
No worries. Penn State game coming on.

Santana, Liriano, Baker! Go Chicago go!

2006-09-02 12:33:51
190.   Stormer Sports
187

Feast or famine bro, feast or famine.

2006-09-02 12:35:03
191.   Bob Timmermann
188

No, I was actually joking about the state prison.

2006-09-02 12:35:52
192.   BklynBmr
190 Uffh, I'm tellin' ya... What's Sterling infamous line?
2006-09-02 12:35:54
193.   randym77
So...you think they're going to try using Wilson at catcher today? Or will it be Nieves?
2006-09-02 12:36:34
194.   Bob Timmermann
It doesn't look very pleasant in The Bronx right now.
2006-09-02 12:37:13
195.   randym77
They're putting the tarp on.
2006-09-02 12:37:15
196.   Alvaro Espinoza
Here comes the tarp!
2006-09-02 12:37:34
197.   rbj
Call the game now, wipe out the top of the eighth.
2006-09-02 12:37:39
198.   BklynBmr
Heh-heh, here we go, Yan-kees...

Nope, that's it. Anyone know the extended forecast?

2006-09-02 12:38:57
199.   Bob Timmermann
The top of the 8th is in the books regardless of what happens.
2006-09-02 12:39:54
200.   rbj
I htought they reverted to the last full inning played, as the Yankees don't get their last shot.
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2006-09-02 12:40:49
201.   Alvaro Espinoza
198 Supposed to rain straight through tomorrow morning. Monday looks delightful though!
2006-09-02 12:40:57
202.   randym77
I think they changed that rule.
2006-09-02 12:42:55
203.   Bob Timmermann
The "wiping out the top half of the inning" rule was eliminated in the late 1970s or early 1980s. If the visitors go ahead or tie before the home team gets to bat, the game is suspended.

If that's not the case, it's game over!

2006-09-02 12:43:02
204.   Stormer Sports
Penn State/Akron on ESPN.

Just call the fucking game. We don't need someone getting hurt out there today.

id they cancel all matches at the Open today? If not, anyone have a time estimate for Agassi's match?

2006-09-02 12:43:26
205.   Cliff Corcoran
We wuz robbed! You just know they were gonna come back this inning. Right? ;)
2006-09-02 12:44:33
206.   BklynBmr
201 Thanks, that does not sound good. At least no one got hurt today. Bag this one and raise a hot toddy or two for The Gimpy Crow...
2006-09-02 12:44:46
207.   rbj
Thanks. That's why I couldn't find the rule in the book.

Toronto's leading Boston 5-1 top of 9th.

2006-09-02 12:45:45
208.   BklynBmr
205 Definitely. That had 'Yankeeography' written all over it ;-)
2006-09-02 12:54:02
209.   rbj
Blue Jays win! Burnett throws a CG.
2006-09-02 12:54:07
210.   randym77
I wanna know who was going to catch.
2006-09-02 12:56:33
211.   rmd0311
Since Boston already lost... Even more reason to call it...
2006-09-02 12:59:57
212.   Cliff Corcoran
210 Why not Jorge? Did I miss something?
2006-09-02 13:01:40
213.   Bob Timmermann
The Yankees magic number is now 20, which means it gets listed in the Yahoo.com standings pages.
2006-09-02 13:02:03
214.   randym77
212 Why Jorgie, in a game like this? Let him rest. I wanna see Nieves or Wilson. :)
2006-09-02 13:02:43
215.   Cliff Corcoran
214 I forgot about Nieves. It would have been Nieves, but Jorge would have pinch hit in a rally.
2006-09-02 13:24:08
216.   randym77
They called it. It's a game.
2006-09-02 13:24:26
217.   Bob Timmermann
And the Gameday app changes from "delayed" to "final".
2006-09-02 13:32:46
218.   Cliff Corcoran
I was at a rain-shortened loss once. Short of being injured or robbed, there's no worse ballpark experience.
2006-09-02 13:35:50
219.   randym77
Then I guess nemecizer made the right decision...
2006-09-02 13:48:41
220.   JeremyM
Crain picked up a "save" due to the rain.
2006-09-02 14:04:26
221.   Ron Burgundy
Wait, wait, wait.
Scott Baker? The guy who allowed 90 hits in 63 IP gave up 1 ER on 2 Hits against us and got the win? Why? Baseball is a weird game. Whatever, we'll win tomorrow.
2006-09-02 15:39:27
222.   wsporter
Well, some good news on a soggy day; the Yankees signed the first round supplemental choice they made this year in Joba Chamberlain. Baseball America, other online publications and blogs have had some nice things to say about him. BBA had him at number 20 overall (they had Kennedy at 42 or so). Other than Paul Howell our 18th round selection that makes a clean sweep of signings through round 24 and 30 out of 50 players drafted signed so far with one draft and follow that I can find reported. B. Ca$hman has to like that.

With the solid draft, apparent quality international signings and undrafted college players they have signed the organization should get a nice little shot in the arm.

2006-09-03 00:14:22
223.   Yu-Hsing Chen
At least Karstens looked pretty good, i'd love to see him as our spot starter next year instead of Jaret Wright
2006-09-03 05:29:58
224.   singledd
Some observations:
... The Yanks have only scored 20 runs in their last 5 games. Take away an 8 run win over Minn, and thats 12 runs in 3 games. Is anyone worried that our offense is runnung out of gas?

... We need to go 20/10 over the remainder of the season to win 100.

... We will need to win big, as I don't think we will see much of Mo at all in September. I don't think October means anything to us without Mo.

... Last I remember, Oakland was struggling to maintain their lead, 4 or so games ahead of the Angels. Now they are only 2.5 games behind the Yankees. When did this happen?

... We are 3 games behind Detroit, but with the WS home advantage and the ALDS home advantage, I'm not so worried about beating the Tigers for ALCS advantage. However, weak hitting as they are, I don't want to face Minn. (Santana and Loriano) in a 5 game playoff.

... Anything can happen, and I feel a little sorry for how beat up the Sox are, and the Lester situation, but I think the Sox are done for the year. Can't cry too much over that.

... Joe has been managing for the PS. While he is trying to win now, he is more concerned with resting players. This is a good thing. I suspect Proctor and Villion will get a lot of rest in September.

... I hope we will see more of Dotel, regardless of the situation or outcoming. We need him sharp and tested for October. I think part of the Villion overuse (to win now) is in hopes that in the future, he will be more of a Lefty specialist, and Dotel used more to eat innings.

... I think outside of Wang, out pitching, both starting and relieving (with Mo hurting and Dotel still wild) is fragile. We will not survive Oct. without having above average arms.

... Can it be true? Is ARod FINALLY being ARod? ARod being hot or not can be the difference between winning it all or not.

2006-09-03 06:00:25
225.   randym77
The Times has some interesting back story about Villone and Morneau.

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The Yankees trailed by one run when Villone started the eighth, but he allowed a one-out walk and a single. Morneau was the next batter and he might have recalled April 6, 2005. That is when Villone, who was pitching for the Seattle Mariners, plunked him in the head with an 0-2 pitch. Morneau missed 13 games with a concussion.

Seventeen months later, Morneau faced Villone for the first time since the beaning. Villone said he had never seen someone hit an outside fastball the way Morneau did. It was another liner that beat the wind. Morneau called it "pretty satisfying," the opposite of how the Yankees felt.
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2006-09-03 06:06:28
226.   randym77
224 I've been a bit concerned since early August. We've basically been a .500 team for the past month. Below .500 if you take out the Boston series (Boston being just plain awful).

I really don't get it. You'd think the team, most especially the offense, would be improved with Abreu and Lidle and Wilson added. Hasn't worked out that way.

Oakland is definitely the team to watch. They seem to be peaking at the right time. I wouldn't be shocked if we lose homefield advantage, not to Detroit, but to Oakland.

2006-09-03 07:41:18
227.   Sliced Bread
226 As long as it's not the Angels, right?

224 Joe is definitely managing for the postseason, and I hope to see a lot less of Villone in the coming days/weeks. He, Proctor, and Mo definitely need rest.

And you're right about Dotel. He needs work.

Giambi, and Abreu need rest too. Posada needs as much as he can get.

I think we'll see a lot of Fasano, Wilson, Guiel, and Phillips this month. What's the word on Cairo? Cano, Jeter, and A-Rod could use a few days off, too.

I don't think Jeter is going to get caught up in the batting title race, as it's not his style, but if it tightens up, I imagine he'll be forced to play more games than he needs to this month.

It's a perfect time for Matsui and Sheff to come back, as they need work, and the others need to sit.

Here's hoping Moose comes back sharp on Tuesday.

Hey, Cliff and Alex, and all other Banterers who are attending today's game: have a great time at the ballpark. Go Yanks!

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