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Congrats, Big Fella.
A helluva pitcher and a deserving member of the Hall of Fame. Heartiest congratulations, Goose. Enjoy the day.
Think about it. (And someone have the actual number?)
The Wash scenario ... he's shutting out the Jays right now, Pontoon gets shelled tonight ... Cash trades Cano, Melky and 2 minor leaguers for Wash.
I actually have a fair bit of faith in Cashman here. He'll 'accept' Washburn's contract for no players going back. If it is just money I am entirely content to see Wash as a Yankee. There are AL teams that are very shaky vs lefties (and some just KILL them) and it is useful to have one at the back end. If IPK or Phil return, again these are GOOD problems to have this year AND next.
Also, he was 4th on the Yankees in innings in 1978 (ahead of two starters), 4th in 1977 for the Pirates, 4th in 1975 for the White Sox. Oh, and he started 29 games in 1976 and threw 224 innings, which led the White Sox staff.
Those nuggets should satisfy your friends.
If I were running the team, I would simply DFA Ponson. of course, if i were running the team, I never would have signed him to begin with.
Similarly, considering he's pitched well in 3 out of his 4 starts, I wouldn't dump him until we have a real replacement. If you send either Giese or Rasner back to SWB, you can keep them in your back pocket in case Washburn doesn't work out. If you let Ponson go, you don't get him back.
Also, significant chance of weather problems; a delay is very possible.
"If they can get a trade, I'd approve it; if they can't trade me"... sorry I got this off the radio and lost the exact quote, but the spirit was that the Sox will just have to decline his option and they'll part ways. I think this was an interview with Enrique Rojas. He was saying he wouldn't use his veto to block a trade.
yes weather could definitely be a problem here tonight
Might be worth a shot, depending on what they'd have to give up. We wouldn't miss Moeller on the roster.
Also, it's just pouring rain here, and the Hub often gets my weather an hour later.
26 27 yes i would love the sox to get rid of him. i would have to assume that if they trade him it would definitely be to the nl. and i don't think they would risk putting him on waivers again (and if they did and the rays, yanks, angels claimed him they would surely pull him off).
i would be happy with manny or dunn as the dh next year - especially if it looks like matsui's knees are going to continue to cause him problems.
raining in boston now - hopefully that means it will clear out in time for the 8pm start.
sexson at 1b tonight - guess we are never going to see jason against a lefty again this year - though his numbers have dipped a bit of late; but the other side of that is getting him some rest so he lasts all season.
Here's some thoughts, Manny to...
- St. Louis: would be SCARY: Pujols, Manny, Ankiel, Ludwick, Glaus makes for a sick heart of the order.
- Dodgers: would allow them to finally bench Juan Pierre
- Atlanta: Manny being available could push them to be buyers, but not very likely
- Arizona: would put Eric Byrnes on the bench. Why they gave him $10M, I'll never understand.
I think the Dodgers might be interested. It would be really hard to swallow Pierre's salary on the bench, though.
The Sox definitely will not waive him. I don't think they'll trade him either, frankly. I think if they're really fed up, they'll decline the option and offer him arbitration, and get the draft picks. Of course, in that case, the Angels could get him. And so could we!
The team should find an adequate starter and replace Ponson ASAP, and thank their lucky stars that they stole a few wins in the meanwhile. That's a far better plan than waiting for Ponson's inevitable implosion.
32 Given the above, if Boston gives him arbitration there's a danger - he could actually accept it. An arbiter would likely give him a hefty paycheck and he'd still be monumentally hard to move.
Another quick thought... Atlanta knows they're not getting Teixeira back, so they trade Teixeira to Boston for Manny in a sign-and-trade deal.
Would he really waive his 10-5 rights? (It's not technically a NTC.) Who knows. After Boras got to him, there might be all kinds of conditions attached. "If my client is going to give up this valuable right, then of course he will have to get something in return..." Maybe the options get removed, swapped for a binding contract extension, or some other extension has to be negotiated.
I think the Sox would not be too worried about arbitration. Whatever an arbiter awards, it wouldn't be $20M, so arbitration works out better than the option, and furthermore we know Manny believes that he can do better than that on the open market.
Scott Boras, remember? He wants to get teams bidding.
In the end, all of this mostly bluster on both sides. I think that the FO would trade him, but realistically they would never get anyone to pick up his contract and return fair value in terms of talent; plus, they are in a race so they won't just salary dump him. On the other side, Manny won't really accept any trade, but then, it won't matter because a trade won't materialize.
I agree that the Sox won't trade him, though. They wouldn't need fair value of talent, but they still can't get enough.
In any case, I don't think Boras would go for a sign-and-trade. You know he's salivating at another shot at the market. Remember, Manny's only 36 and already has 500 home runs.
Arbiters are notoriously generous to the players. He may not get $20M, but it wouldn't be a whole lot lower. Unless it was under $15M, he'd still be hard to move. But, again, your comment about how Boras works is more to the point.
He's 36 and his numbers have started to slip, not horribly, but what we would expect from a player his age. He stands a better chance of signing, say, a four year deal with someone after this season than he does after his age 37 season--especially if he gets hurt or his numbers drop off more significantly next season.
My personal judgment is that it's risky. I'd predict that the market for aging outfielders is deflating -- that, for example, the case of Andruw has sent a shock through the buyers, even though that was just a two-year deal. But I'm also realistic about my personal judgment, and I figure when Boras and I disagree, Boras is probably right!
At the same time, I figure Boras is one of those evil genius masterminds from the movies, who always has some counter-plan for any contingency ("...but I KNEW that you would discover the clue that I left for you; that was my plan all along, bwahahahah"). So just when I think that he's misplayed his hand, he pulls the old switcharoo and his client ends up on top.
Sort of like A-Rod opting out. Did Boras misplay? or did he get exactly what he wanted?
45 i think that is exactly boras's (pu?) thinking - he has a better chance of getting a better deal this year rather than waiting 2 more years
quite a soap opera from afar.
Nice touch on the Buck O'Neill statue, but it's a bit late for that.
With the renovations to the Hall, it flows better. I really like what they've done with the plave.
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