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1) Small samply size: Let's not make to many judgements.
2) Like Ichiro (although I am NOT comparing them as players), Gardner plays to his strenghts... which is walks and beating out cheap grounders. I have NO problem with him looking for a walk. I LIKE that he looks for walks. God forbid, Cano and Melky should feel the same way.
3) Regardless of how he hits, his speed is a weapon and critical SBs alone can win a number of ballgames (need I bring up Dave Roberts).
4) I have not read any quotes or knowledgeable assessments of his D. With his speed, if he gets decent jumps and takes decent routes, he could/should be better then Melky. I'd like to hear from somebody who knows, what kind of defender Brett is. He doesn't have Melky's arm, but doesn't have JD's either.
5) It would be hard to do much worse then Melky, considering his speed is always a weapon.
6) He HAS to be nervous, being called up by an underperfoming Yankee team and expected to contribute immediately.
7) He has had some poor ABs, but when he is at the plate, his attitude seems to be: DON'T make an out. Work the pitcher. Make him throw strikes. I LIKE his approach. On a team where Mekly's approach is BEYOND BAD, and Cano's approach is often infuriating, and even Jeter's approach seems 'less smart' then in the past, it's refreshing to see SOMEONE use their head. Who knows, maybe it will rub off on SOMEONE else on this team.
Player A: .333/.364/.524/.887
Player B: .167/.200/.167/.367
Now, based on the past week, whom would you rather have playing? If you said Player A, you choose Melky. Player B, of course, is Gardner. I can't figure out why you think Gardner might "Pipp" Melky based on these stats. When Gardner was brought up, the idea that he might push Melky was raised. Well, aside from a couple of high profile Ks, Melky has hit the ball well and played fine defense. If anything, Melky has solidified position since Gardner came up, but you seem to suggest he has slipped.
3) FWIW Roberts was used as a pinch runner. And his SB alone didn't win the game. And he was a 4th OF while with the Sox.
Taking the money out of it, I don't think either one of them get on base enough to be starting CFs, but I think once the sample sizes flesh out, Melky is the better player.
I've been saying this a lot lately and so this will be the last time I do, but I think the biggest problem on the Yankees offense is Cano. In three plus big league seasons, he has had only one season in which his OBP was (arguably) meaningfully better than his BA. Next time he gets hot for a while, I'd move him.
I agree with you about Dave Robers, however. Gardner would make a fantastic pinch runner.
for all the crap i give melky (and when you have a sub .600 OPS+ two months running, you deserve a lot of crap) he's merely mediocre against right handed pitching. but against lefties ... he's a cesspool of suck. a progression of OPS+ from 86 (2006) to 63 to 58 is not acceptable, or sustainable.
the yanks need to find a veteran RH OF to spell melky. doesn't even have to be a CF as they can slide Damon over and put the bat in LF. don't know who it would be, since ideally, this would just be a platoon bat and occasional pinch hitter, but the yankees have to do something to improve their chances against lefties.
While I get that Cano's superb defense is an asset, and if he can just be ok with the bat, he's a great presence, I worry that his offensive value is all tied up in BA which we all know is a volatile stat. From my perspective his hitting approach hasn't changed one iota since he hit the big leagues.
I think one of the reasons I'm so sour on him is that at the beginning of the season, people were talking about how he would be one of the best hitters on the team. If the architects of the team were planning for that, they better find a viable plan B.
So far, with more than half the season gone, he has managed only 3 Total Win Shares (includes fielding, actually it's all fielding.) His approach at the plate is dismal. His power is non existent, because he will and does swing at ANYTHING.
I can't really chalk up 3 entire months to a "slump" or bad luck on balls in play. I'd love Robbie to mature, and develop a more selective approach and it's entirely possible that he will, but it's also entirely possible that his seeming stubborn refusal to change his approach will turn one of the most gifted players I've ever seen, into a case of "Hey, whatever happened to Robinson Cano?"
The problem with trading Cano is: what's your theory for second base after that? He has flaws, but as an everyday second baseman, he's pretty darn good. Frankly, it's not that easy to find a pretty darn good second baseman.
Let me put it this way, keep Cano at second if you want, but you better add some insurance bats when Giambi and Abreu are gone because his is highly unreliable.
With Giambi likely gone, Jeter slugging like an old shortstop, Abreu likely gone, Melky being Melky, Posada being old and hurt, I am having a hard time figuring out where the runs are going to come from next year, and the year after that etc. See what I mean?
If I were Cahsman, i would look at Cano and say, I can't project this guy to be a steady contributor to my offense. Sometimes he'll be hot shit, and sometimes he'll be atrocious. So If I need to put together a (conservatively) 960 run team in order to win this division, he's not a guy i can count with a lot of confidence.
On the bright side, the smart thing they did was backload his contract with option years and incentives, thankfully he's not outrageously expensive.
Also, Robbie did get his BB total up to a respectable 40 last year. He is not far off the pace now, and should reach it if he goes on his customary hot streak. Remember, 40 walks was essentially the domain of Don Mattingly (minus his IBB, which were very high).
"STUPIDLY": according to websters dictionary:
a talented baseball player who continues to strike out on eye level pitches in important game situations.
Are you looking for a fight William? We have all been watching these games together. Before this last week, for 2 straight months, Melky has been 'throw up in my mouth a little'.
A .570 OPS for TWO MONTHS! That's worse then Tek!
I like Melky. He is certainly more talented then Brett. I would love to see him become the smart, .775-.800 OPS guy we all believe he can be. But for the last 2 months he has been absolutely killing us.
Cano has indeed been terrible. Why... his numbers are almost identical to Melky's! Let's hope his .948 OPS in July is a sign he's coming out of it. With a career .805 OPS and an outstanding glove at 2nd, he is very important to us, especially in a year or 2.
If not, the Yankees can hang a 6' x 6' autographed picture of Dustin Pedroia, 'All-Star 2nd baseman', up in the lockerroom and see how Robbie responds to that.
Scoring 900 runs in a season is impressive.
Cano really has insane first/second half splits. I think he'll be alright. Not to make a direct comparison, but christ, Chase Utley didn't record a 120 OPS+ season until his age 26 season, Robbie's already had two before he turned 25. And it's not like Robbie is struggling with pitch selection, his K rate continues to trend downward (he's on pace to K less than 60 times this year). Since May 1st, his slash line is .301/.326/.429. Not terrible, but not what we expected from a guy that can put up a .900 OPS. His BABIP is still abysmally low for his LD% and my guess is that he's going to go on a Cano tear through July and August and he'll be just fine come season's end.
And he's still just 25. Of all the hitters on this team, I don't worry much about Cano, he's progressing and getting better. And for someone that the Yankees basically took a flier on, he's turned out just fine.
Mo's consistency is staggering, especially in a role where bullpen guys are maddeningly inconsistent. He has 12 (soon to be 13) straight years with an era+ over 140. No other closer really comes close. Though K-Rod has 6 straight and Hoffman has a string of outstanding years with a few clunkers in the middle (he's been incredibly good since day 1, as well).
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