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Master and Servant
2008-07-05 10:00
by Cliff Corcoran

We all knew the Yankees weren't going to sweep their current four-game series against the Red Sox to pull into a second-place tie in the AL East, but the possibility was there. Now, having dropped the first two games, the Yankees have to sweep the final two in order to avoid losing ground to Boston as a result of this series.

Looking to snap the Yanks out of their malaise in today's nationally-televised afternoon tilt will be Mike Mussina. The bad news is that two of Mussina's three worst starts this season came against the Red Sox in April. Here's Moose's line from those two starts against Boston: 8 2/3 IP, 15 H, 9 R, 3 HR, 0 BB, 2 K, 9.35 ERA, 1.73 WHIP, 0-2. Manny Ramirez did the bulk of the damage against Mussina in those games, going 4-for-5 with a double and three home runs, driving in six of the nine runs Mussina allowed and scoring a seventh. It would thus seem a natural to have Mussina pitch around Ramirez today, but the man hitting behind Ramirez is Mike Lowell, who has a .579/.600/1.158 career line against Mussina. Ironically, Lowell was on the DL when Mussina faced the Red Sox in April, but in 2007, Lowell went 4-for-5 with a walk, a double, and two home runs against Mussina, and in 2006, he went 5-for-10 with a double and a homer against Moose.

So there will be no pitching around Manny today. Instead the Mussina will have to focus on keeping runners off base ahead of Ramirez and Lowell. Third-place hitter J.D. Drew is just 1 for 11 with no walks in his career against Mussina, but Boston's top-two hitters, Jacoby Ellsbury and Dustin Pedroia, have a combined .555 OBP against Mussina (Moose has never walked either one, but he's plunked Ellsbury twice and the two are a combined 8-for-16 against him).

Gulp.

Opposing Mussina will be 23-year-old rookie Justin Masterson. Masterson, who is just the fourth major leaguer to have been born in Kingston, Jamaica (Devon White and ex-Yankee Chili Davis are two of the other three) is a big dude (6-foot-6, 250 lbs.). He's also a sinkerballer in search of an effective second pitch. Masterson made two strong spot starts for the Red Sox in the season's first two months, but since being installed in the rotation at the beginning of June in place of the then-injured Daisuke Matsuzaka, has been merely average, posting a 4.54 ERA, walking 4.79 men per nine innings, and allowing seven home runs in six starts. I keep waiting for the Red Sox to swap him back out for Clay Buchholz, who is younger, better, and allowed just two runs in six June starts for triple-A Pawtucket (4-1, 0.88 ERA).

With Johnny Damon out due to the shoulder contusion he suffered in yesterday's game, Brett Gardner will lead off and play left field today. Wilson Betemit gets the start at first base with Jason Giambi at DH. That means Jorge Posada rides pine as Mike Mussina pitches to his personal catcher in Jose Molina.

Let me get this straight: Molina caught yesterday's game (with Posada DHing). Tomorrow's game is a night game. Monday is an off-day. Yet, Girardi can't find a way to get Posada into the lineup against the Red Sox today with Johnny Damon hurt and his team desperate to pull out a series split? I think I'd like to have my own team meeting with the Yankee skipper. I realize the Yankees are babying Posada's throwing shoulder out of necessity, but Girardi needs to prioritize. Molina has hit .191/.234/.243 since injuring his hamstring against the Red Sox in mid-April. He's killing this team. Posada has hit .263/.380/.421 since coming off the DL at the beginning of June. The Yankees need that OBP in the lineup. Meanwhile, in the last month, Chad Moeller has entered just one game before the eighth inning and had just five plate appearances (in which he's doubled and been hit by a pitch). Even if Posada's shoulder is so tender that he really can't catch today, it's long since time to give Moeller a chance to contribute again, Mussina's preference be damned.

Update: Per Pete Abe, Posada's "a little under the weather." That excuses that, but not the continued preference of Molina over Moeller.

Comments (198)
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2008-07-05 11:12:47
1.   monkeypants
0 Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I have have been beating this dead horse and I will continue to do so. The Yankees' three catcher arrangement/usage is mystifying at best, incompetent at worst. If Molina plays, Posada MUST bat DH, every time...at least until this offense proves that it can score runs otherwise.

Babying Posada's shoulder or not, why is Moeller wasting a roster spot. Yesterday Molina came up twice in high leverage situations (5th and 7th, IIRC), yet was allowed to bat (admittedly he walked in the 7th). He was lifted for a PH in the 9th inning, down by three runs, with no one on base. What are the odds that exact bit of in-game strategery would have any measurable effect?

And another of my pet peeves (or dead horses). Why are they carrying 13 pitches AND three catchers AND with Damon hurting? Unless they have made some move about which I have not heard, the bench today will be comprised of Moeller (who will never play), Damon (who can't play), and Posada (who apparently also can't really play, but is available to hit once--maybe in the 9th inning). What the hell?

With the AS break coming up, put Damon on the DL so that they can carry another bat, even if the options in MiL are slim. Or, stop carrying three catchers if one will never be used.

The only think that will make this better is when Girardi decides to PH for Gardner, which will call into question why the first guy to get batted for is hitting lead off. But maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

2008-07-05 11:15:13
2.   williamnyy23
What compounds the curiousity of Girardi's decision is Masterson has severe splits (.864 OPS against lefties; .501 OPS against righties). Not having Damon's and Posada's lefty bat is HUGE.

At this point, I am not so much discouraged by the question of whether the Yankees can beat the Red Sox, but whether it even matters any more. At the very least, I would hope this team can summon enough of something (heart, soul, mind or body) to avoid a four game sweep.

2008-07-05 11:17:05
3.   williamnyy23
1 I am with you, but do you really think that 25th roster spot has mad much of a difference. This team has played so poorly, and Girardi has managed so poorly, that I don't think it really matters. The Yankees problem is that the top and middle of the roster isn't performing (or is injured), not that the bottom of the roster is thin.
2008-07-05 11:17:57
4.   thelarmis
according to Pete Abe, Jorgie is apparently a little under the weather today, otherwise we'd perhaps see him at 1B...
2008-07-05 11:26:24
5.   williamnyy23
4 Speaking of Pete Abe, he has another facile "there is no reason to panic because last year the Yankees were 11 games out on this date and then won 11 of 12" comment. Of course, it ignores that 11 of 12 stretches do not occur at the snap of finger as well as the fact that there weren't two formidable opponents in the division last year.

I think a big problem with the Yankees this year has been a reliance on their past and a refusal to acknowledge that the team was in trouble from a much earlier standpoint.

2008-07-05 11:33:21
6.   monkeypants
3 No, I don't think that the 25th man means all that much. That said, the situation speaks to two more serious issues: 1] my eroded faith that anyone in the organization knows how to put together a roster OR properly deploy the assets on that roster; 2] the "trickle down" effect of poor roster construction. That the 25th man is a never used catcher hamstrings the roster in other ways. This is especially true of an extra extra catcher, because such a player is both offensively inept and defensively inflexible.

I agree with you that poor play at the top is much more serious. But that does not excuse failing to deal with easily remedied problems at the bottom.

2008-07-05 12:04:26
7.   ny2ca2dc
Agree with the comments on the roster construction/3 catchers. I would much rather have, say, Josh Phelps as the 'third catcher' - he could be a pretty good RH bench bat and catch a few innings here and there. Who cares if Moeller is lost - get PJ Pilittere a shot if JoPo eventually has to Dh full time. Honestly, I'm ready to punt the season - not just because of this year, but because of what the offense portends next year. Scary to imagine another year of decline with the same cast.
2008-07-05 12:29:11
8.   randym77
Molina seems to have become Moose's personal catcher. Or at least, Jorgie doesn't catch him. Which is really odd, because a couple of years ago, Jorgie pointed to Moose as someone he got along well with (as opposed to Randy Johnson). What happened?
2008-07-05 12:56:29
9.   JeremyM
8 In "Living on the Black," Mussina talks about how he ended up with Nieves as his catcher last year pretty much by accident, and that he had no problems at all throwing to Posada. Basically, Mussina was struggling and had a good game with Nieves behind the dish, and Torre figured since Nieves had to play every 5th day anyway, he'd try to see if there was something there with Moose and Nieves.
2008-07-05 12:57:42
10.   JeremyM
7 Good call and Phelps is down in AAA in the Cardinals system where I'm sure he can be had for a song. They're not being creative at all.
2008-07-05 12:58:32
11.   rbj
SWB is in town starting Monday, and I don't even feel like going.
2008-07-05 12:59:50
12.   rbj
Gardner! Way to be greedy, Dusting.
2008-07-05 13:11:11
13.   monkeypants
One of those grounders will find a hole eventually.
2008-07-05 13:13:54
14.   monkeypants
Offense...making..me...sleeeeepy....I'm getting....sleepy....
2008-07-05 13:18:46
15.   monkeypants
Nice little play by Cano and Betemit there.
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Hello out there (...out there...out there...out there)
2008-07-05 13:23:58
16.   rbj
I really don't give a flying fig about A-Rod's personal life. I do care about him grounding out weakly.
2008-07-05 13:25:20
17.   standuptriple
Timmy suggested switching numbers for A-Rod. Uh, yeah. That'll fix everything.
2008-07-05 13:27:38
18.   standuptriple
Giambi moves quite well for a guy carrying a piano.
2008-07-05 13:27:42
19.   rbj
Wow, Jason beat the throw.
2008-07-05 13:28:06
20.   OldYanksFan
Good God the Big Lug is slow... but fast enough!
2008-07-05 13:28:31
21.   randym77
Gee, the one-day benching seems to have done Melky good.
2008-07-05 13:29:01
22.   standuptriple
I'd be ashamed if I were Nancy Drew.
2008-07-05 13:31:03
23.   monkeypants
Giambi with a finesse slide!
2008-07-05 13:32:15
24.   monkeypants
Of course, that should mark the end of the Yankees' offense for the day. We have come to expect about 18 meek outs and 2 singles to follow.
2008-07-05 13:33:05
25.   standuptriple
Excellent play, Robbie!
2008-07-05 13:34:26
26.   rbj
22 Nancy would be. She has a better arm than this clown.
2008-07-05 13:39:39
27.   monkeypants
Me likey this new-old-new Moose. I can't tell if this is a fluke, but after 90 games can it be just a fluke? Who knows, maybe he can milk another season or so out of his arm, if that's what he wants.
2008-07-05 13:39:53
28.   ny2ca2dc
Beaut of a last pitch to K Drew.
2008-07-05 13:43:18
29.   rbj
Brett needs to file a police report on that theft.
2008-07-05 13:44:59
30.   monkeypants
Poor Brett has hit a few sharp grounders that have found gloves. Maybe he needs to hit some dribblers or high hoppers instead.
2008-07-05 13:53:03
31.   JeremyM
My God. Another bases juiced situation with less than 2 outs, and nothing to show for it.
2008-07-05 13:53:26
32.   rbj
Why am I not surprised.
2008-07-05 13:59:34
33.   rbj
Looks like Melky's determined not to get Wally Pipped, at least on defense.
2008-07-05 14:03:21
34.   OldYanksFan
27 There are a number of soft toss guys who are still pretty good. And of the soft tossers, Moose's junk is about the junkiest.

It just shows how much 'smarts' is a part of baseball and how making the right adjustments can make all the difference.

2008-07-05 14:03:27
35.   monkeypants
31 32 See 24 . I have this feeling it will be just like yesterday, except one run early instead of three.
2008-07-05 14:08:57
36.   monkeypants
34 It's interesting to look at very successful players with long careers. It is my anecdotal impression that they often have a bad season or two at, say age 30 0r 31, then a few more really good years, then another bad season. And the really great ones can hang on for a couple more years.

Now, those bad seasons could be blips, or they could be injury seasons. But I sometimes wonder if those are seasons where the athlete' physical abilities decline without the player adjusting--changing his swing or finding a new pitch, etc.

This is my roundabout way of talking about Jeter. I still think that this season is the product of injury. But if it is a decline year, perhaps Jeter will bounce back as he adjusts to his own changing abilities. Anyway, just musing.

2008-07-05 14:20:13
37.   randym77
How good is Melky on defense? The Fielding Bible ranked him the second worse defensive CFer in MLB at the end of last year. But we tend to think of him as being pretty good. Are we just so used to statues in the outfield that Melky looks relatively good?
2008-07-05 14:22:04
38.   monkeypants
Now, I will grant that Molina can really throw!
2008-07-05 14:22:36
39.   OldYanksFan
It seems to me that Jeter no longer has the consistant power for opposite BHs to right. Unlike most players who are too pull happy, I don't think Jeter pulls enough. I don't want him to try and pull outside pitches, but I do want him to start turning on the inside ones.

The inside-out thing is resulting in too many weakly hit balls.

I swear, Molina (over Posada) must save 1/2 run a game for us.

2008-07-05 14:22:38
40.   randym77
Man, Ellsbury is actually a pretty good base stealer, but the Yanks pwn him.
2008-07-05 14:22:45
41.   monkeypants
37 Interesting...based on what metrics? Our standards for OF defense are pretty low, I imagine.
2008-07-05 14:24:03
42.   ny2ca2dc
Irrelevant in this case as the CS was all Molina, but Girardi has been spectacular at calling pitchouts this year.
2008-07-05 14:25:44
43.   OldYanksFan
37 RLYW did an evaluation of CFs and Melky was near/at the bottom in offense and towards the top in defense. I would give him a C+/B- in fielding an an A for throwing.

There goes Jeter again, inside-outing a weak fly. TURN ON THE FUCKIN' BALL DEREK!

2008-07-05 14:26:02
44.   monkeypants
39 I agree on Jeter--in his best seasons (my memory here) he did turn on the ball more. yeah, I would like to see him pull some inside pitches with more autjority.

Regarding Molina--there is no way him throwing out the odd base runner saves 1/2 run per game (80 runs on the course of the season).

Heck, they have both started the same number of games of so (around 43), and Molina has only thrown out around 10 more runners than Posada.

2008-07-05 14:27:16
45.   Zack
Ahh, it was only a matter of time until McCarver started the asinine assertion that "the Red Sox organization has blown the Yankees' out of the water in terms of youth infusion."
2008-07-05 14:29:05
46.   Zack
Oh my God, it burns the ears! Apparently the Yanks don't have "impact talent," which the Sox apparently do. I guess Buccholz counts as an entire system's worth of "impact."
2008-07-05 14:30:05
47.   randym77
41 I think it's mostly a range rating. So what it's saying is that Melky's range is not really good enough for CF. It doesn't take into account his great arm. Defensively, he's probably better suited for right field, where there's less ground to cover and his arm will be put to good use. But he doesn't have the bat for that. At least so far.

He's got good speed, but I don't think he reads the ball off the bat that well. Josh Hamilton is the same way. He's got amazing tools - runs like a gazelle, has an arm that's stronger than Melky's and more accurate - but he's not a very good CFer, because he doesn't read the ball off the bat very well.

2008-07-05 14:31:51
48.   mehmattski
46 Yeah, but rank the Sox/Yankees rookies and other young players. At this point it's got to be:

1) Joba
2) Pedroia
3) Lester
4) Cano
5) Ellsbury
6) Masterson
7) Melky
8) Buchholz
9) Hughes
10) Kennedy

Their best five young players beat our best five young players, in terms of "impact," I have to admit.

2008-07-05 14:33:16
49.   ny2ca2dc
46 ditto
2008-07-05 14:33:42
50.   monkeypants
39 44 I stand corrected.

Posada: 25 GS, 30 SB, 7 CS (1.2 SB/G)
Molina: 44 GS, 25 SB, 22 CS (.57 SB/G)

Still, I am not convinced that .5 or .6 SB per game difference accounts for .5 runs per game.

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2008-07-05 14:36:29
51.   ny2ca2dc
that second strike to Drew was eye popping!
2008-07-05 14:36:51
52.   monkeypants
46 Yeah, the announces say the Yankees have trouble integrating young talent on the field in a game where Melky, Robbie, and Brett Gardner are starting in the field, Joba is in the rotation, and by the way, look at the BP.

Whatever. As long as the Sox are the last of the two teams to win the big cheese, we get to listen to this and other mythical narratives.

2008-07-05 14:37:30
53.   Jeb
48 How in the WORLD do you rank Melky Cabrera that high? He's not a prospect. He's a guy that's had two seasons of 98, 89 and (this season) 78 as his OPS+

Even if Melky is a prospect, he sure as heck wouldn't rank higher than Buchholz, Hughes or IPK.

2008-07-05 14:38:48
54.   mehmattski
53 None of them are prospects. But at least Melky is playing in the major leagues, unlike the three below him. That counts as more "impact" to me.
2008-07-05 14:39:20
55.   Zack
48 There is absolutely no way you can rate Masterson that high. There is absolutely nothing besides, as Cliff pointed out above, his first few starts that suggests he will be anything other than average, which is what his numbers have ALWAYS been.

I also don't think you can rank Pedroia over Cano based on one bad half season. Cano STILL has an OPS+ higher than Dusties, and he's only been getting generally better as the season has continued.

And to that end, I would put Melky at the bottom of that list. I would put it at
Joba
Lester (in his 3rd year, to be fair, so does Wang get to be on there for only his 4th year?)
Cano
Pedroia
Ellsbury
Hughes
Buccholz
Masterson
Kennedy
Melky

I never said that the Yanks were doing BETTER than the Sox, but the idea that the Sox have somehow been so great at developing their talent and are doing well because of them is simply not true and is the result of Gammons-hype. They are doing well generally despite their "kids," save Lester and Pedroia in the last two weeks.

But its this whole "impact" crap that really bothers me. The Yanks have had lots of impact from their farm in their BP, while the Sox' farm arms have been awful. And just because Hughes has been injured and not so good doesn't mean he loses "impact" status.

And, finally, who do the Sox have in the minors right now besides Buccholz who is an "impact" player?

2008-07-05 14:39:29
56.   ny2ca2dc
51 And then he walks him on the next pitches. yeesh.
2008-07-05 14:39:37
57.   rbj
It must be a contest between Fox & ESPN to see who can make the most inane comments.
2008-07-05 14:41:09
58.   monkeypants
Moose is kinda funny when he's cranky. That is, unless he implodes.
2008-07-05 14:41:33
59.   Zack
48 And of course I was responding to the idiotic announcers assertion that the Yankees SYSTEM is lacking impact players while the Sox system is chock full of them, so much so that, and I approximate the quote here, "they have plenty of replacements to step right up who the Yankees would kill for..."
2008-07-05 14:42:11
60.   Zack
The Yanks offense really does have that special ability to make an opposing pitcher look like Cy Freaking Young
2008-07-05 14:42:38
61.   Jeb
54 yeah, he's playing in the majors, but he's playing HORRIBLY. Would you trade Melky for Buchholz or Masterson? I sure as hell would.

On another note, if they're going to talk about Arod's personal life in this broadcast and then spend 5 minutes talking about Julio Lugo's sunglasses and bench warming ability, it might be fair to mention that Lugo has a less than savory personal life (e.g., beating up his wife in a parking lot, which is a hell of a lot worse than what Arod's doing).

I do like the irony of the Sox getting Lugo for his "hitting" ability. just ask his wife.

2008-07-0